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hannaramaa
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posted January 12, 2015 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I cash in that rain check now?

I asked if men see me as cold, mean, etc. negatively, basically. Wondering just HOW unapproachable they find me:

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appleberry
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posted January 12, 2015 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an interesting question, but I need to think about it...

I can't think which house would be best for this one. I assume you are talking about men in a relationship sense? Such as a 7th house meaning, not a fling (house 5) or friendship (house 11)... or any other sense, correct?

But given how you look in the chart at a quick glance, I might say you're a hardworking and spiritual person who's a deep thinker - this might be why you're coming off cold... because you are keeping those deep thoughts on the inside and people can't figure you out. Nothing scares people more than higher intelligence...lol

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posted January 13, 2015 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes in a relationship sense, and yaaassss that's definitely me.

How did you see that since Sun nor Moon really aspect Saturn?

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posted January 13, 2015 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about from the 5th and 11th house?

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posted January 13, 2015 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I was only looking at the planets and signs that represent you in this chart.

With this kind of question, I think the aspect between the significators talks about specific relationship outcomes, etc... But, seeing which planets represent the people in question, as well as where they land in houses and signs gives more of the information you are looking for.

I can see that the 7th house is ruled by Saturn which is a typical ruler for older men, but also contains Mars, which is a typical ruler for men in their 20's and 30's.

I'm not sure exactly why they appear where they appear, but I would guess that older men might be seeing themselves as father figures for you. But, if you're over 40 yourself, perhaps that is translating to 'man of the house' for you...?

The fact that they are represented by the two main masculine planets, and you happen to be represented by secondary masculine planets makes me think they might see you as a tom-boy. You probably don't exhibit typically feminine behavior as they expect women to act... that might also make you unapproachable if they only understand how to approach the stereotypical female...

The fact that you are not getting great, or any aspects in some cases, to either of your two main significators, just confirms how you state your difficulty with their view of you - otherwise we might see some trines, I think.

Overall, I don't think you should consider it such a problem if they see you as cold or unapproachable - I think you just need to be the one to approach, and if you are interested in them, display some typically feminine behavior so they can understand that you are interested in them in that way.

Hope that all makes sense...

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posted January 14, 2015 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Appleberry, I really appreciate you explaining that to me! Horary is so interesting.

No I'm not in my 40's yet, I'm only 25.

Yes I'm a tomboy around men. I'm shy about my feelings so I act like I don't have them, blah blah blah *issues* blah blah. I mean I guess I knew all of this already but I'm so impressed it can be explained through a natal chart.

Older men always smile at me weird and creep me out, so I think there's some kind of power / control fantasy thing going on there.

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This made me think of something. Since you're pretty experienced at horary, what if we started encouraging other users to put their own thoughts down about their situation (well, for relationship questions anyway) first and THEN we decipher their chart? That way we can match up what they say to the planets accordingly and can better predict the outcome? That'd probably be more useful than us telling you guys "Yes, you're right." because how is that engaging at all if we know the solution to our queries already.

Yes? No?

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posted January 14, 2015 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm with you on the "horary is so interesting", and that fascination only seems to grow as you learn more...

I think it's interesting that you say older men have a power thing with you... if you turn the chart they land in their own 10th house... which specifically infers such a thing...

Yes, it would be nice if people added more info to their horary charts - just so people can identify more symbols in the horary chart. When it comes to horary - the more you give, the more you get... People who hold back explaining the situation just lead the readers into confusion. But, people only reveal what they are comfortable revealing and we all have to be okay with that.


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posted January 15, 2015 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Hanna! I'm soooooo sorry I just saw this now! So I looked at the chart and I saw two things: first the moon is in via combusta and second the the planetary hour doesn't match so the chart isn't valid. Basically it won't give you an accurate answer to your question

I can, however, pull a Leno spread for you to help you get a better idea..would you like me to do that?

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posted January 15, 2015 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How are you to know when the planetary hour will work? Meaning is it okay yo purposely match it up then?

And no worries!

Yessss a Lenormand would be great, thank you so much!

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posted January 15, 2015 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hannaramaa:
How are you to know when the planetary hour will work? Meaning is it okay yo purposely match it up then?

And no worries!

Yessss a Lenormand would be great, thank you so much!


Below is the link to validate the planetary hour. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000262.html

http://www.astrology.com.tr/planetary-hours.asp

So I asked how men view you when they meet you?
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Let me know if you want me to interprete this for you although I know you're better than me at it.

When you have a sec would you mind pulling for a question I have? Will I ever perform on stage? Thx

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posted January 16, 2015 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Via Combusta... I have a ton of charts that were accurate despite the moon being in the Via Combusta, one of them was when I was asking about my dying pet, and that moon very accurately described my distress for the situation. I know many people won't read Via Combusta moons or querent significators, but I feel, although they show the person in a weakened or frazzled state, they won't ruin the chart. If it's a relationship chart, things probably won't work out though... just depends on the question in my mind.

Here is someone else's thoughts on that matter - I think they describe how I feel about it as well: "If the Moon is placed in the Via Combusta in a chart, it’s likely to just show a state of emotional turmoil for our querent or some sort of inherent difficulty in their situation that is not easily remedied. It could also show someone who feels under attack in some way by their surroundings. It is perhaps easier to imagine the Via Combusta as a second place wherein the Moon can be Combust, and follow through with similar descriptive words: fear, anxiety, inability to move forward, difficulty taking information, etc."
http://starlightknightastrology.com/2014/01/horary-technique-10-the-via-combusta/

Planetary hour, well, it's Mercury in your case... I probably should look at planetary hour more, but it's one thing I've never paid much attention to - much less nullify a chart because of. The planetary hour doesn't necessarily need to be the same planet, as the lord of the Asc - it can also share triplicity or nature. But, Mercury and Sun are obviously not of the same nature (except hot), and they don't share triplicity... so as tgem says - it should be invalid...

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posted January 18, 2015 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping for Hanna-wanted to make sure you saw this

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