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hannaramaa
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posted January 31, 2015 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm looking to see if I will see a friend in February or not, (will he come over to my house, or will I go to his?) more specifically if he will come over to my house. Do I use my 4th ruler to signify part of the question then? I don't see any of the sigs positively aspecting each other so I'm thinking it's saying no.

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posted February 01, 2015 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I might be totally wrong, but isn't the 11th house the house of friends? Wouldn't you use the 11th house to signify you friend? The 11th house is Cancer and it's ruler the Moon is in the house. It might mean he's staying where he is. Again, I could be wrong.

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posted February 01, 2015 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree... He's much more comfortable where he is. But then if you look at who's more willing - it's him, but just by a bit...

You are also combust though and there's no proper aspect for you two that lets me know you will actually get together... You are MercuryRx... which makes me think you are going to change your mind...

Combust here prolly means you can't see everything that's happening, or everything there is to know. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that you are in your 5th house (romance/fun) but he's in his 12th house.... at the very least that means self-undoing... but since he's an exalted moon in the 12th house... I'm worried there's something you'll find out about his 'psychology' that will make you change your mind...

Would love to hear the update on this!

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posted February 01, 2015 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something about his psychology...hmm. Do you mean find out he's crazy or like his motives are bad?

I haven't asked him and I would never unless he let's his guard down. He keeps his feelings very close to his chest with me now. So the most likely sveabrio is me changing my mind. Especially because that is abhabit of mine.

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posted February 01, 2015 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's weird he's in his 12th house if we use him as a friend, but the 11th house if we use Jupiter as his sig instead (since I do kind of like him, but we are just friends) which would make the 6th the new 12th house..idk it's ironic we're talking about him being in the 12th house and I had a dream about him last night - very 12th house-ish!

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posted February 01, 2015 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe he shouldn't be represented by the 11th... if he is a romantic interest... maybe the 5th... which would be Saturn, and there we have an applying sextile, but regardless, you are still Rx and Combust... so I still feel like whatever he is, you don't see/know everything and may change your mind...

But if he is Saturn, this sextile is applying and you are moving towards each other with nothing in the way then... but you're moving waaaay quicker than he is, so that might be something to think about... and the receptions aren't great... he's in your detriment - so I guess that means you would not be comfortable where he's at, but he would be comfortable where you're at... he's in the 3rd which is short journeys... and his 11th which is friendship...

What do you make of it? Is it more likely that he is a house 5 or 11... ? Possibly 7 if this is partnership...

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posted February 01, 2015 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, now I'm officially confused..what happen to NEVER using the 5th house to represent a romantic interest?

Please someone help me figure this out because I may have been reading my charts incorrectly this whole time & will need to go back & reevaluate a ton of them lol

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posted February 01, 2015 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When do we use 11th then, only when no romantic feelings are involved or according to the title that person holds instead? We've been involved before so 5th house seems too new to use for him. We're just friends now so I used 11th. Sorry I'm confusing

What would I look at if I wanted to know what it was that would make me change my mind?

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posted February 01, 2015 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
When do we use 11th then, only when no romantic feelings are involved or according to the title that person holds instead? We've been involved before so 5th house seems too new to use for him. We're just friends now so I used 11th. Sorry I'm confusing

What would I look at if I wanted to know what it was that would make me change my mind?


No you didn't confuse me, appleberry did because they suggested using the 5th to represent a romantic interest and everywhere else I've read said NEVER to use the 5th for that and always 7th even if it isn't a formal relationship. Also if the 7th house ruler is in the 5th they are only interested in "fun" nothing more.

So can I start using 5th for guys I'm romantically interested in or continue using the 7th? To be honest 5th makes more sense for fwb or flings not the 7th, but I always get shot down for wanting to use that house. Again I'm so confused lol

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posted February 01, 2015 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...
I didn't know you were involved before. I automatically skip to the 7th if you've ever dated or had sex, even once. I feel like neither the 11th or 5th are valid for this question now. I've never really looked at a chart of returning to an old flame though... might still be 5th if you're not interested in dating, but not sure...

If you've never slept together but are interested in someone romantically -I use the 5th. If you've slept together even once and it's a similar kind of question - I use the 7th. If there's any romantic interest, I don't think the 11th is appropriate, because it's kind of a platonic house...

So, yeah... I guess we have to start over with this one.

The biggest difference for me regarding the 5th and 7th is that the 5th is more about sex and the 7th is more about partnership. That's why it's important to know the back-story of the question - so that you're choosing the right house. You have to know what the person's true intentions are. Often in the beginning, a person just wants to 'hook up' but are open to dating if things feel right, but unless they are ONLY interested in dating/partnership, and that is the absolute primary interest, then the 7th makes more sense.

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posted February 01, 2015 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, 7th it is, but my intentions aren't sexual when I speak about coming over to each other's houses. I was thinking about it in terms of just seeing him and hanging out.

But I still think it's a no because Mercury and Jupiter are making an opposing separating aspect.

But, does it matter that I'm being specific about where we would hang out? Does that location get a significator?

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posted February 02, 2015 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this will be an very good learning horary if you update it with the answer once it all comes to pass...

Chances are it's going to be a 'no' because no matter how we look at it, your significators are the ones that are seemingly going to decide on the 'no'... but exactly how it's going to get to that point is worth looking back at...

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posted April 26, 2015 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update: I never invited him over to my house, so he never came and we actually don't speak or have a way of contacting each other at all (because I changed my number and blocked him on everything, just as a sort of 'closure' to myself.) It's been that way for a few weeks now too. That's probably the 'changing my mind' you saw?

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posted April 26, 2015 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess so... That's usually how it works: change of mind, change of feelings, change of direction...

Thanks for the feedback!

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