posted February 04, 2015 04:25 PM            

I asked here and immediately looked at Saturn (him) and Venus (her). They were separating, so does that mean they were but they broke up?

As a side note: when our sigs DO aspect the other sig could it just signify a period where we feel most emotionally connected to the other person? I ask because I've felt that way the past couple days, like he's REALLY been on my mind and I sort of believe when that happens it's important, like the other person is also thinking about us or something is about to change concerning that person (could be in their own life or with your relationship to them)

posted February 07, 2015 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Does that only apply when you are actually involved with someone?

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Yes, you should be dating the person and his 5th house (turned 11th) represents the other woman in such a case.

One thing to note as well is that this is a 'spying' question - horary doesn't support spying, so whatever conclusion the chart comes to, isn't necessarily going to be accurate.

posted February 07, 2015 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Horary doesn't support spying? gosh!

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posted February 07, 2015 05:21 PM            

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One thing to note as well is that this is a 'spying' question - horary doesn't support spying, so whatever conclusion the chart comes to, isn't necessarily going to be accurate.

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posted February 07, 2015 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Aren't the majority of horary questions about other people considered as "spying" then? Most of them are accurate imo or at least describe the present situation accurately.

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Well, you have a point, in a way. When there is genuine concern for someone else's welfare, etc... then it's not really spying - when you are emotionally involved with the scenario as shown by the question, and supporting statements.

In your question though, it doesn't seem so, because you don't seem to be directly involved in their relationship... or, perhaps there is another underlying question that you don't want to make public, such as:
"Do I have a chance with him?"
"Will this girl get in the way of us having a relationship?"
"Does he like her more than me?"
Etc...
You only stated that you had a curiosity about it - but where is that curiosity coming from? A desire to be with him or some other reason?

If I ask a similar question, wanting to know whether someone is going to break up, maybe the person is my friend and her husband... it might concern me emotionally even though I am not involved in their relationship. For example, I might be her best friend, but her husband is my lawyer, and if they break up, it might affect me personally. Or, maybe I think my brother is secretly dating my best friend and I'm trying to figure out why they are both acting so strange with me, given that I would be in the middle.

posted February 08, 2015 01:48 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I didn't think horary could answer it since basically what it is is I'm more (or feel more) emotionally invested.

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I think it's a valid question.

You would be the 1st house, she would be the 7th house as your adversary. He is likely represented by the 5th house, but the 11th for her.

posted February 08, 2015 02:06 AM            

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Originally posted by appleberry:
I think it's a valid question.

You would be the 1st house, she would be the 7th house as your adversary. He is likely represented by the 5th house, but the 11th for her.

The chart above looks so much more interesting now with the new question (providing it's still valid... but I think it should be).

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You put it into perspective with your examples, I think it would've taken my longer to come to that conclusion but now I get what you mean about question asking!

Okay, so she would be in her own 3rd house then (OH no she wouldn't 'cause she's Saturn...which I'm squaring, LOL) She's in his house, and he is in her 3rd. So she is more interested in him than he is in her.

Would him being Mars, being in her 3rd house represent him playing mind games with her?

posted February 09, 2015 12:16 AM            

But, don't worry too much about Mars vs Moon, because ultimately the point is knowing how she's playing out in this scenario... and I think you're right about her being more into him than he into her... But... She's in her 11th (but his 7th) and he's in her 3rd, so I don't think there is anything going on right now. It's just a friendship... but maybe she's possessive of him...?

The Pluto on the cusp certainly shows her intensity (I use modern for things like that - but not as significators because of the light difference) but when they land on the cusp like that, you can't ignore them. I'm sure this is why she's tagging him - intensity/possessive nature, etc...

I think the square is telling you will be challenged by her... You're moon because this means something to you (you don't want her around), she's Saturn because she doesn't care (or doesn't know) about you being there...

Do you see how charts make more sense when you find the question you are really trying to ask? The universe doesn't know words, only energy. You ask the question with your energy and you only confuse yourself and the readers when you don't ask the question that you are actually feeling. That's why you must first pin-point what it is that you are actually trying to figure out...

posted February 09, 2015 01:15 AM            

Yes I totally get it, now I just have to memorize what the big deal about "lights" are all about.

About to draw up another chart on him and give my analysis. New question.

posted February 09, 2015 01:27 AM            

Okay, I asked if he was into anyone right now. I'm using him as the 7th. I do see Moon is Via Combusta. That means the asker is a little obsessive about the topic right? I slightly am, no contest...

In any case I'm Mars in the 5th house conjuncting Venus in an applying aspect by 6 degrees, but Venus is in the 4th - his 10th, and me in his 11th. So this basically says he is more focused on work right now but I am interested in dating him again, but he only wants friendship for now since I'm in his 11th. But wait what about Venus trining the ASC itself? Other than that I don't see Venus aspecting anything that would make me think he is, but I'm wondering if Venus being next to Chiron means he is dealing with some emotional pain at the moment and maybe that's why?

posted February 09, 2015 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

Yes I totally get it, now I just have to memorize what the big deal about "lights" are all about.

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Lights... just that traditional horary is based on planets that shed light visible to the naked eye... they further planets can only be seen with a telescope so their light is presumably not as powerful in horary.

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

Thank you so much for all the help you offer in this forum Appleberry! If you ever need a Tarot reading let me know in PR.

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Thank you... Once in a while I do... and I don't know much tarot at all... at this point anyway.

Chiron always seems to show that in my charts so I agree with you on that as well as the fact that he's on the cusp of career and friends.... yes, that's prolly where he's focusing on life right now... well, at least you know what to talk with him about! And, the next thing he conjuncts is you in the 11th house of friendship - look at you waiting there for him ;-) Just focus on being his friend right now, cuz that's prolly all he's ready for at the moment.

posted February 09, 2015 11:21 PM            

In any case, I think possessiveness is something he brings out of people in general 'cause I have to work hard to control that in myself about him. He's just an aloof person except when he's not and my Taurus moon (opp. Pluto) abhors it.

ETA: Oh weird! It just dawned on me his status yesterday was concerning his disappointment over his neighbor (4th house!) who's also his friend moving away!!

Forget natal charts, horary is where it's at for stuff.

posted February 10, 2015 02:18 AM            

For example: I just asked an "Aha!" question, I asked if He was indifferent to me now. I don't feel like posting the chart but the basics are -

ASC in Scorpio at 19 degrees.
Moon (co-sig) is in Scorpio at 0 degrees.
Mars is in the 4th house in Pisces.
(--Saturn is also in the 1st house-- don't worry I know this is a red flag about the chart and have a link you provided up on another tab for me to study right after I post this! ETA: Just checked - no, I'm certainly not lying about anything!)

His sign is Venus again, also in Pisces and also in the 4th house.

By that, Venus conjuncts Mars in Pisces and is applying, so that would say "No he's not," right?

And my point in ALL of this is that both of these planets are in Pisces and I find it interesting that Pisces is about feeling / sensing / and faith and that me nor him have seen the other in nearly a year. So I was wondering since our sigs are aspecting in a conjunction in a psychic sign, if that denoted some kind of psychic connection between two people.

posted April 27, 2015 02:12 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Also, is it possible to interpret the signs the planets are in?

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posted April 27, 2015 02:12 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Just going through my old charts and found this one. They're not dating, she's just a friend and has been for a long time.

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