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ikja
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posted February 10, 2015 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay...

So the other day I made a horary chart and asked whether my ex missed me, the answers to that chart indicated that he did. We were conjunct, in the same sign and applying.

I recently found out that he changed his number (accidentally called him in my sleep?! saw the next day that the call came up as 'cancelled' as opposed to 'outgoing'). This showed me that he was keen to move on with his life etc.

Today, I decided to ask if he wanted to reach out and talk to me. The change of number suggests a no, because he never passed it on but I wanted to verify.

So, I'm Mercury and Moon. None of my significators are aspecting Jupiter (his significator). This shows that he doesn't want to reach out. Additionally, I can see that Venus is in his first house, which suggests that there is probably another girl involved now anyway. However, Mercury appears to be in his 11th house of 'love received' and friendships which suggests that I still feel fondly towards him. This is true.

What I find hilarious though is that my emotions (Moon) and Me (Mercury) are opposing eachother; as if one wants one thing, and the other wants something else in regards to this situation. This is also true. That and the Moon is aspecting Neptune (fantasies)!

His significator Jupiter is also in my 12th house of deaths/wishes. Debating which one is more applicable here.

Anyway, thought I would share. Definitely accurately describes the situation from my point of view.

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babybull82
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posted February 10, 2015 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5th house is exes so he's saturn especially if he was only your boyfriend and not your husband or business partner.

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ail221
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posted February 10, 2015 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a bit wary with this one because both your ruler (Mercury) and his (Jupiter) are retrograding. Yes he disconnected his phone or the number changed but something is still hidden at the moment.

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ikja
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posted February 10, 2015 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ali, thank you for your comment. I completely forgot about the retrogrades! I need more information about what retrogrades mean in a horary charts lol. Maybe I'll add that to the learners thread.

bb82... If 5th house is supposed to be used for exes, my entire (short lived) horary reading career has been a lie! Lol I need to go back to the drawing board with a few charts!!! That makes him Saturn, but tbh... I definitely don't think he wants to reach out and talk to me lol.

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posted February 10, 2015 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem, I believe signficators are weakened and/or there is more uncertainty with the people involved when retrograding.

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babybull82
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posted February 10, 2015 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ikja:
Ali, thank you for your comment. I completely forgot about the retrogrades! I need more information about what retrogrades mean in a horary charts lol. Maybe I'll add that to the learners thread.

bb82... If 5th house is supposed to be used for exes, my entire (short lived) horary reading career has been a lie! Lol I need to go back to the drawing board with a few charts!!! That makes him Saturn, but tbh... I definitely don't think he wants to reach out and talk to me lol.


To be honest I think astrologers use what they are comfortable with. Some prefer to use 5th for new love interest on down to exes (with fwb, bf/gf relationships in between) But use 7th for marriages and just other people in general. But hey if using the 7th works for you and the chart describes your situation then use it. In the past though I will say that for me using 5th for exes has worked. So I guess it just depends.

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ikja
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posted February 10, 2015 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BB82, perhaps saturn's trine to me may make sense; but I wonder what the opposing aspect he has to neptune would mean.

Using 7th appears more fitting; but I don't know what using saturn would mean for the situation.

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posted February 10, 2015 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I'm reading correctly, I'd say he's EXTREMELY hurt... It looks like by something you said... Might explain why he changed his number... To prevent it from happening again. I think he just wants it all to be over...

I wouldn't be surprised if you are both Rx because you are both so hurt by this...

ps... Conjunctions aren't necessarily a yes in horary, even in the same sign... At the very least, you need a positive application of the moon in my experience...

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ikja
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posted February 11, 2015 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he is hurt, I'll be damned.
We were supposed to meet, which I initiated/suggested (again!); but as per usual he left it to me to check if it was still on. The meeting day got closer, I didn't call/text and just left it. He didn't follow up and neither did I.
I went to hospital the day after, exchanged some brief messages. Didn't talk for about 2/3 weeks and then the change of number.

Sad times, but hey ho... It's just not meant to be right now.

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ikja
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posted February 11, 2015 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah, I deleted him from my facebook. Perhaps that's it, but you know what? I wanted to be hurt and heal in peace/behind closed doors. He probably doesn't get that because I didn't tell him.

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posted February 14, 2015 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I was being too nice with my reading... maybe he's just delusional and a liar... lol...

Well, life advice is - just forget about him, cuz no one that acts like that is worth it.

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ikja
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posted February 14, 2015 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he thinks he is the victim here. A liar, yes... Perhaps!

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