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Topic: Moon or Mars - who moves faster?
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hannaramaa
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posted March 12, 2015 11:39 AM
  
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hannaramaa
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posted March 12, 2015 11:42 AM
And as a side note: I asked if someone was disinterested in me now, and the ASC / DSC significators (Venus and Mars in Aries) are both in my 12th house, conjunct, but separating. BUT Moon is trining his significator, Mars. Moon is in his first house, the 7th. So I'm aware that means I'm more interested than him.What does it mean if the first significators are separating but the other set is applying? IP: Logged |
appleberry
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posted March 12, 2015 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What does it mean if the first significators are separating but the other set is applying?
Separating aspects in general speak of history, things that have already passed. I would assume in this case, it meant you were either together physically or somehow on the same wavelength, regarding whatever situation is at hand. Every question is different though, so the history of a separation will be relatively unique.
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hannaramaa
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posted March 13, 2015 12:22 AM
Okay so separating isn't always fatal? Also, does Moon or Mars move faster? I'm wondering if Mars will move into my 1st house soon which I'm assume would benefit the situation. IP: Logged |
babybull82
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posted March 13, 2015 01:52 AM
I'd say the moon is faster because it changes signs every couple of days...IP: Logged |
appleberry
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posted March 13, 2015 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Okay so separating isn't always fatal?
No, separations are not necessarily fatal. They're just past events/actions. It's the aspects and dignities which speak of the kind of interaction. Conjunctions are always hard because they can go either way for the most part.
Also, does Moon or Mars move faster? [/QUOTE]
Moon is faster. Planetary speed is relatively important in horary. Here's a simple thing on planetary speed: http://gryphonastrology.com/astrology101/planetaryspeed/ IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted March 13, 2015 04:28 PM
That's the one I literally JUST read! I thought to myself if Moon will be moving faster then I wonder if it means a change of heart will take place on either of our side.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted March 13, 2015 05:56 PM
If you could help me read this Appleberry I'd be glad to read Tarot for you or a natal / synastry chart!I originally asked "Should I let him go," but edited the title to "Will it get better between us?" I notice our significators aren't aspecting so that worries me. I've been intimate with him so he would definitely be a 7th house person. He is not paying me the same attention as he used to, but I think it is because he feels shot down by me (although I've since tried explaining myself.) I notice our significators are not even aspecting too.  Do you think it is just because he is working a lot since he is in his 10th house? Recently read your link about what planets mean in the 1st house and applied them to the 7th, since that is him. Mercury and Neptune are in his house so he maybe doesn't know (why) I feel this way or he is wondering why I took him off Facebook (Facebook = Mercury related, right?) I also feel like Jupiter in my 12th house means I can't see a good thing that is coming maybe can't see how this is a blessing, but it is in retrogade... Me being the Sun fits even though it is the co-ruler of the man. Because right now I'm sort of pursuing him but trying not to come off needy and giving him his space. Read about Mercury and Neptune...that fits being in his first house. He is very, very smart and oddly intuitive. Something else that came to mind was that this could mean he's just messing with my head?  IP: Logged |
appleberry
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posted March 14, 2015 01:28 AM
Is it possible that there is another person in the picture? If so, I'm getting the feeling that someone else is showing interest in him and he's deciding between the two of you. He's likely lying about it. I'm not negating your interpretation of the 7th house planets but looking at other dimensions of it. Mercury is debilitated though and his significator squares mercury.
I think Facebook messages could be Mercury related but technology and internet is Uranus.
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hannaramaa
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posted March 14, 2015 01:34 AM
Oh, it's definitely possible there's another person in the picture and that he's lying. I don't know him well after all. Is there any good from the chart? Like even if things suck with this guy (which I feel they will) is there anything showing someone else will come into my picture anyway? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted March 14, 2015 10:50 PM
Hey Apple, I had an unrelated question: what happens when the other's significator aspects the ASC itself not just the ASC significator? Is that beneficial for the querent?IP: Logged |
appleberry
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posted March 15, 2015 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Hey Apple, I had an unrelated question: what happens when the other's significator aspects the ASC itself not just the ASC significator? Is that beneficial for the querent?
I've only ever used it as a secondary support, but I would never let it answer a question alone. IP: Logged |
appleberry
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posted March 15, 2015 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Is there any good from the chart? Like even if things suck with this guy (which I feel they will) is there anything showing someone else will come into my picture anyway?
I would say that his interest in you or your 'romance' is stronger, but this other girl is a pest... and the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I think if you walk away - he'd go with her. If you stay, he'll still be interested in trying her out... Nobody wins, which is why I think I don't see an aspect between the two of you. Maybe he's inching along as Saturn because he doesn't want to make any decisions at all. He's probably quite happy with two girls fighting over him. Mercury is who I see her as - going speedy and chasing him into that square... maybe she's challenged with a square because you exist. I can't say 100% for sure that this truly is another woman, but that's what jumps out at me from this chart. And, it made me start to weigh the 5th & turned 5th houses against each other... I only used the 7th to represent him. If this is really what's happening - I'm not sure it's worth it for you. You are a proud sun. Whenever I see Mercury as another woman - I just see a shady temptress. Please do some other readings on this scenario though, because I'm not 100% sure on this one. "Weighing sides and who would win" wasn't the actual question, but it's what I saw. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted March 15, 2015 05:26 AM
A proud Sun indeed!! I don't even know what he's doing as we don't speak (not out of animosity but we just fell away, its alright though) but as I read your description I thought to myself "WELL if he is even considering someone else then I don't want him anyway!" Haha! I think this seemed so urgent to me because I had someone willing, but it wasn't someone I felt very connected to in the end and I'm okay with moving on from it having learned better. IP: Logged |
appleberry
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posted March 15, 2015 02:59 PM
Probably better. When we come to horary, usually it's because we already feel something negative and we're hoping it's not true, hoping that a horary chart will reassure us that we're just paranoid. Usually, we are not. Usually, we are assured that what we have felt deep down is actually the truth.IP: Logged |
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