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ikja
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posted March 20, 2015 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

Just wondering if my ex and I will meet up tomorrow.

1. The ascendant is at 27 degrees, so it could be too late to ask. It's not 28 degrees, so perhaps its ok?

2. I can see that our significators (Mercury and Jupiter) aren't aspecting. However, I am in Pisces which is also ruled by Jupiter. This is good, as there is reception (?) BUT, I'm debilitated. Does this mean that he has the final say on whether we meet up or not? Tbf, I am waiting for him to get back to me on it.

3. The moon (co significator) is in his first house. This is good? However, not too sure if the moon represents the situation or if is co represents me.

What do you think? I can give feedback around 12am (UK time).

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appleberry
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posted March 21, 2015 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The primary aspect of the question is an applying quincunx - which suggests that the meeting is possible BUT something must change first.

He is represented by Jupiter since he's your ex. Jupiter is Rx which suggests he's likely to change his mind.

I assume that the Sun in his first house is a person he is involved with or wanting to be involved with. It seems like the meeting has something to do with this person...? I think his hesitation to meet you might have something to do with this person. The sun is on the verge of moving into an exhaltation. If this sun really is another person - she'll be in a good place.

The next conjunction the moon (the situation) makes is with Uranus in the 7th house... so be prepared for a sudden/unexpected event.

As a whole, for the most part, the situation looks like it will go okay - I assume your obstacle is to keep him from changing his mind. The moon's final aspect is a trine, with his significator, so I think it should work out okay.

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ikja
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posted March 21, 2015 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well!

I haven't heard from him which is abit annoying. He mentioned that he was having issues with his car.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was someone he was interested in meeting up with more - at least I now know what to do...

Ignore him.

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ikja
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posted March 21, 2015 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks AB!

A star as always! x

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ikja
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posted March 22, 2015 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well AB,

We didn't meet up yesterday. Not too sure what happened, but he claims that he went out for after work drinks and got too drunk to text me etc. I reckon that if I did want to meet up yesterday, I perhaps could have. However, as you said... I would have had to put more effort into arranging it.

Wasn't prepared to do that this time.

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appleberry
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posted March 22, 2015 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you took the best course of action. Horary is there to help you understand things, but not necessarily tell you what to do.

Having to put effort into something simple like getting someone to meet with you, doesn't feel right - they should want to. And, his excuses sound pretty flaky - I doubt he's worth the effort for any girl...

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ikja
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posted March 28, 2015 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB, how do you know if there is another woman involved? I thought that another woman was only symbolised by Venus. However, in this instance, you suggest that the Sun could represent a person too?

What is the actual rule on this?

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appleberry
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posted March 28, 2015 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ikja:
I thought that another woman was only symbolised by Venus. However, in this instance, you suggest that the Sun could represent a person too?

What is the actual rule on this?


It could be Venus, especially if it were located in his first house, or conjunct his main significator.

The general rule for the other woman, in terms of his feelings for her (if it's just an affair and not a public commitment, like his actual gf/wife) is using HIS 5th house from HIS first house. So, if he is represented by the 7th, then the other woman is represented by the 5th of the 7th, which is the radical 11th house. The 5th house can mean children, creative projects, etc... though, so don't always assume there is another woman unless there is additional support for that thought.

In the chart above there is mutual reception by sign an house of the lords of the 7th and the turned 5th... but both in a state that will change - Rx for him and a sign change for her. So, it kind of seems like another woman unless there is some other explanation that makes more sense. But, things are going to change soon, somehow.

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ikja
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posted March 29, 2015 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by appleberry:
It could be Venus, especially if it were located in his first house, or conjunct his main significator.

The general rule for the other woman, in terms of his feelings for her (if it's just an affair and not a public commitment, like his actual gf/wife) is using HIS 5th house from HIS first house. So, if he is represented by the 7th, then the other woman is represented by the 5th of the 7th, which is the radical 11th house. The 5th house can mean children, creative projects, etc... though, so don't always assume there is another woman unless there is additional support for that thought.

In the chart above there is mutual reception by sign an house of the lords of the 7th and the turned 5th... but both in a state that will change - Rx for him and a sign change for her. So, it kind of seems like another woman unless there is some other explanation that makes more sense. But, things are going to change soon, somehow.


Thanks for this AB!

It's definitely something that I will keep in mind now everytime I have a look at a relationship chart. It's funny how new ways of looking at charts come up every time! lol

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appleberry
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posted March 29, 2015 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you never stop learning about horary - there is just so much.

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