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hannaramaa
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posted March 21, 2015 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys! I'm willing to read someone's horary chart the best I can if anyone can help me out interpreting this. All in all I just need someone to check what I saw and agree or point out something I may have missed.

I was really interested in a guy and then he disappeared on me citing family issues being the cause. I believed him at first but after a couple days and him not responding to my text I figure it is over. It really threw me off because I felt like there was a real connection with him and I was excited about it. I deleted him off all social media after (which I think explains Moon conj. Mars in Aries QUITE well. :P) We almost met but it was inconvenient.
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Since we hadn't met in person yet so I'm using his sig as the 5th house, Saturn. I'm just not sure what house a "connection" would be assigned to? Maybe I should rephrase the question like "Was he truly interested in me?"

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He's Saturn in my 3rd
I'm Mercury in his 1st with Chiron.

He's in his 1st but he's in Aries and I'm in Pisces, I would take this to mean I am more disappointed about this than he is.

He's confident and moving on because he was talking to someone else (Venus is in his 3rd - BUT they're in weak aspect, what's that mean?) I also see Mercury is in applying aspect to Uranus, so that could explain the suddenness of his departure for me.

His and my significators are also squared, does that mean he thought we lived too far away if he's in my 3rd / his 9th?

Plot Twist: He said it was because of family issues and I guess his 4th is ruled by Mercury as well so does this mean it's true and that he did have family issues (he said it had to do with his brother who is in a facility for mentally handicapped people in a neighboring town).


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appleberry
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posted March 21, 2015 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you have to back step a bit and look at everything again - because you said you were using him as the 5th - therefore, when you turn the chart, his first house is the fifth house, not the 7th.

You (Mercury) are in his 3rd as well.

I think the moon is in his 4th house because you're wondering why he ended this dynamic.

Venus is in his 5th (What does that tell you? Strong in Taurus, meaningful on the cusp, with an applying trine to Pluto in his first, also landing on the cusp...)

His 4th is ruled by Mars... it could be that he had "family issues"... Maybe the Venus in the 5th house is not a female his talking to, but a child of his? Moon last conjuncted with Mars and before that Uranus... according to this chart, it's totally possible that there was a family issue.

Will he talk to you again - maybe. Saturn is Rx and that sometimes means he'll return/change his mind... but I don't think he will return because the end of the matter (1 vs 4) does not support that, and the moon has finished all it's applications, suggesting that this story is finished.

Let it go though - if he can't be bothered to worry about what's going through your head... he's not that interested and he's blocking the way for someone who is.

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posted March 21, 2015 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that about someone who's interested and everything, it's just that I'm such a soft person and am simply not there yet emotionally so I asked to kind of get peace of mind.

You're right, I totally read from the 7th, GAH! I was so close, haha. Even though I have a feeling it's unfinished (different than hoping it's not done) I don't think he will return either if I deleted him off Facebook and such.

That's the thing as far as someone who is concerned with what's going on in my head - there isn't anybody. Moon might be conjunct Mars but nobody else was / is chasing me that I would give a chance to.

Venus in his 5th - he's a flirt? Or pertaining to my question Pluto in his 1st....he was after sex?

So when a planet is on the cusp of a house it's at it's strongest?

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posted March 22, 2015 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it mean that the house ruler for my 3rd being in his 7th? And it's making a squaring aspect to Venus in his 3rd?

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posted March 22, 2015 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ruler of your third is Mars in his 4th.

But maybe the fact that Mars is the ruler of his 4th is a good point. The moons last conjunction is with the lord of his endings... Maybe this really was just his way of ending things without being confrontational about it... Most people seem to be like that (especially regarding online dating - which is what I assume this was for) in order to not stir the waters or hurt people's feelings...

Do you think that might be it? Sometimes the chart creator/question asker has more details that might make more sense of it.

As for JupiterRx and Venus:

Jupiter is ruling your 4th (endings) and 7th (partnership/enemies), but is in your 11th/12th (hopes/wishes/friendship). Perhaps it means you desired friendship/partnership in the end, or at least to get what you wanted.

Jupiter rules his 3rd (communication) and 12th (self-undoing), but lands in his 7th (partnership/enemies). I wouldn't be surprised if this hints at a fear of commitment.

Venus rules your 2nd (talents/values) and 9th (higher learning/distance/'spirituality'), but lands in your 9th.

Venus rules his , but lands in his 5th (fun/romance/children) and 10th (public display), but lands in his 5th.

I think the two venus' don't match up - by your venus, you're more serious - I'd say while he may have only been looking for a bit of fun, you were looking for something more on a 'soul connection' level - this is probably why there's a square aspect between the two lords - he maybe wants a fling because he's not good at commitment, you want something more meaningful but that probably freaks him out.

BUT, this is all a HUGE stretch because I'm guesstimating the meanings of everything based on the little bit that I know of the situation - if your gut is telling you differently, go with that, because you know this situation more intimately.

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posted March 22, 2015 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he wanted a fling then he was immature or felt tacky about just saying so, that is something I can't figure out with him because sure he told me I was attractive and things he liked about me but he wasn't overtly sexual and we had in-depth conversations. I don't mean to beat a dead horse I guess it's just annoying he didn't say what he wanted when I first asked. He was concerned whether or not I found him charming and mentioned spending a whole day together. I think he was probably less serious than I was, yes, but didn't really know what he wanted. This is so frustrating, I feel like it's a cycle that is never going to end with guys or if someone does want a relationship it's not going to be someone I enjoy or want.

Thank you though Appleberry! Do you want a Tarot reading or anything? If you don't have a question right now you can always raincheck it and ask me another time but either way I don't mind reading for you.

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posted March 23, 2015 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will at some point - I'll post it in the other area with @Hanna...

On the above... maybe the stringing a girl along IS the fun he's looking for... there's a lot of messed up guys out there...

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