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Topic: Is he coming back?
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Choc
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posted April 08, 2015 10:59 AM
  
So, this man, a romantic interest of mine, is [probs] moving somewhere else because of his job, is there any chance he is coming back in the future?  IP: Logged |
appleberry
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From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC
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posted April 08, 2015 05:31 PM
The chart is a bit confusing on that one, and given the chart is at 27*, I'd say you either already know the answer, or it just hasn't been set in stone by the universe. I do see him leaving though. That appears to be set. Is it to another country? Or, at least quite far? I guess I could see some elements of him returning... Not strong though. Might even have something to do with things not working out there. IP: Logged |
Choc
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posted April 08, 2015 08:41 PM
Still in the country, different town though, possibly far away from here, he is an army officer.
According to his fb, he is leaving, his job requires him moving from one base to another, mostly in areas that are deemed "of high risk" [my place is].
I am also under the impression that he wasn't particularly fond of my place but IMO he is wrong.
It is certainly not up to him to stay in a place of his liking, but his superiors.IP: Logged |
appleberry
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From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC
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posted April 09, 2015 04:01 PM
I don't know if you want to say or not, but how does him leaving or coming back affect you directly?I just ask because you said that you know this from Facebook, which begs the questions - is this horary question a spying question? Is there an underlying question that you've really asked the Universe but don't want to articulate here? Because, that would clear up why there's confusion. Horary is completely unreliable for spying questions, and usually spying questions hide true underlying questions - which the chart answer instead of articulated questions. IP: Logged |
Choc
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posted April 09, 2015 05:01 PM
Spying? Nooo we're just not close anymore, despite us being "friends" in every single effing social media out there. I am of the opinion he ceased communication with me because of his moving away. I imagine he feels he has to detach himself emotionally from me in order to make the process easier for him. There are a few obstacles here, from his side and mine.
It's a fairly simple question, I just wanna know if I will see him again, ever. I'm gonna miss his face so much..IP: Logged |
appleberry
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From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC
Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 09, 2015 10:34 PM
So, the actual question was something different then: quote:
Originally posted by Choc:
I just wanna know if I will see him again, ever.
It changes the way you read the chart completely. This question makes more sense. But, sadly, the chances of you seeing him again are just slight, and not likely - specifically in part because it looks like you will change your mind about the whole thing. The moon is Void, so I think there isn't much of a chance of anything until it changes signs. I think nothing will come of this matter. I do see that you are on his mind. "Ever" isn't really able to answer in horary... besides, the end of the matter is mutable, so the outcome is still changing for the long-term. IP: Logged |
Choc
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posted April 10, 2015 10:49 AM
So, the more I wish for something, the greater the chance of succeeding? quote:
The moon is Void, so I think there isn't much of a chance of anything until it changes signs
Pardon me, I don't understand this. Am I supposed to ask the same thing some other time?IP: Logged |
appleberry
Moderator Posts: 2129
From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC
Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 11, 2015 12:31 AM
Wishing doesn't do much with horary. If there's a square or opposition linking the 2 main significators, then it would insinuate that a certain level of effort would be required for the matter to perfect, but that's all. With horary, you need to wait at least 3-6 months to ask the same question (or a spinoff question). When the moon is void, it's kind of speaking as the question as a whole. When it's void, either two things happen: "There's nothing to worry about" or "Nothing will come of the matter". Given that the majority of the testimony is relatively negative, I would say that "Nothing will come of the matter", meaning in this case that you won't get what you want. I'm sorry if that's hard to hear, but with horary, we often ask questions when we fear the worst and want the chart to tell us the opposite, to console us and tell us that things are going to work out the way we want. The reality of horary is that the majority of the time it confirms our fears. We've all been there... It's hard, but it's life... IP: Logged |
Choc
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posted April 26, 2015 11:35 AM
At the time I created this post, I was under the impression this man was pretty much packing up his bags and ready to leave, if not already gone forever.
BUT I was wrong. He hasn't left, he was only been away for two weeks [kind of an Easter break].
I have seen him quite a few times after his return, by the way.IP: Logged |
appleberry
Moderator Posts: 2129
From: Venusian, w/Cancer MC
Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 26, 2015 04:13 PM
I see... that clears up the 'confusion' part of the chart...and I guess the retrograde Saturn has more to do with changing your mind about what was happening... I guess this supports the idea of not trying to read a chart after 27˚ as well. It is often said that it is a consideration against judgement for the possibility of the reader being deceived by some aspect of the reading... so the confusion surrounding the question and the reality of the present situation. I think this question wasn't about him returning at all... but completely about seeing him again. We were thrown off course with that.So the entirety of the question would look to the aspect between SaturnRx and the Moon which is a mutually applying conjunct requiring a change of house to perfect.... which is yes but requires a change of circumstances––which I guess is the return from his trip. I guess the VoC moon here is just saying you were worrying for nothing. Thanks for the feedback... it's good for learning. IP: Logged |
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