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EmGem
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posted April 28, 2015 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok so let's see if we can find something out about where he works by making him a lost item. here's the chart.
not sure which houses to use here..
this will be a good challenge anyone else might like to try too.

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posted April 28, 2015 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even picking the right house here is going to be challenging lol:

'In addition to the ruler of the house in question, the Moon is, according to Lilly, also a signifier of whatever is lost, and of all strayed beasts.
Lilly says that if you cast a chart for a missing person who is a complete stranger, you should use the first house to represent him. Some astrologers look at both the 1st and the 7th, and pick the house that better describes the querent (more on physical description in a later lesson). Generally, traditional horary astrologers discern physical descriptions by looking at the sign on the cusp, the ruling planet, and the ruler's dispositer, by term.
2nd house generally rules possessions. Questions about lost wallets, keys, jewelry, and so forth are 2nd house questions.
Vehicles are are 3rd house objects.
Confusingly, Lilly also assigns "things mislaid" to the 4th house.
If the signifier or Moon of the thing lost is oriental, or in the Ascendant, the object is East; occidental, and, west.
If the signifier or Moon is in human signs, it is in a place people frequent; if it is in "signs of small beasts," it is where you might find small animals. And so on.
If the Moon is in fiery signs, it is near heat or fire, someplace warm and dry. If it is in a watery sign, it is someplace cold and damp,or near water. And so on.
If the Moon is with the Ascendant ruler, in the same quarter of the chart, and there is no more than 30ー between them, the object is in the querent's home. If they are between 30ー and 70ー, the object is somewhere in the neighborhood or town of the querent. If they are not in the same quadrant, the thing is far from the owner.'

Source: http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/lesson9/

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posted April 28, 2015 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
woah this IS a challenge!

well in terms of physical characteristics I can say this:
put together really well.
light grey suit, pale blue shirt
average male height
caucasian
dark hair
facial hair
very good looking
beautiful expressive eyes. when we looked at each other i noticed his intense gaze.

is this more capricorn or cancer? i'm leaning towards cap.

the moon here is in a human sign right so where people frequent. not suprising as he clearly works in the city and there are a lot of big law and banking firms around there near where i saw him. but how do we get more specific?
is he is between 30 and 70*?

this is confusing lol!

edit: this is a really interesting case study on a missing person (actually it's my friend's ex) http://astrologyincrime.com/2012/11/20/sarah-cafferkey/

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posted April 28, 2015 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haven't had a chance to really look at this yet, but here's some links on searching for lost items:

FINDING LOST ITEMS RULES:
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/wit.html
http://www.alphee.com/air_reading/Lost/lost.htm


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posted April 28, 2015 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking on another note, that by acknowledging each other's gaze, you actually had a "first meeting". We could look at it/talk about it on this thread if you want to post it here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000721.html

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posted April 29, 2015 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I've never ever tried to find a place of work like this, but let's give it a try to see what happens... I have used 'Lost-Horary' to seek and successfully find several personal belongings and a few animals. The pregnant cat was the hardest because she kept moving. Based on what the chart said, I put a notice in the mailbox of the house/yard the chart said she would be found at末and that's exactly where she was.

I think he will be defined by the 5th house because he is a romantic interest of yours (it is possible that it could be the 7th). Then we should turn the house to discover his workplace. I think the 10th will probably signify his "employer" while the 6th would describe the "daily workplace"... I think we are looking for the place he returns to routinely for work. This seems like it would be 6th house (hope I'm not wrong).

So, I understand it would be the 6th house from the 5th house to find the significator we should track. This would be the 10th house, ruled by Libra, where Venus is Lord; if I'm wrong and we should use 10th from the 5th, then we would look at the 2nd house ruled by Aquarius, where Saturn is Lord.

I suspect that because Libra is the ruler/Lord Venus, that the job is somehow related entertainment or beauty (maybe that is the service it provides?). Libra is also associated with the Law... and I think that makes most sense to you. But, given that Venus is in the 5th house, the area associated 'pleasure' comes up again. (Who knows, maybe it's Entertainment Law). For some reason, Advertising popped into my mind, this also brings both Gemini and Venus indicators into play. Stockbroker is another one that seems to bring both Gemini and Venus into play.

The job-place itself is in Gemini, which I would guess to be an office building (most logical). Another point to think about is that Gemini indicates places of study.

The moon is in Virgo on the Cusp going into the 9th. (Agh! What if he's a foreigner here on business and he's just about to leave! He could be just about to go on a business trip...?) With a lost object, a moon switching houses would mean that the object is moving locations. I assume it will work the same way with a person (though we are only trying to pinpoint a regular work location).

Ultimately, you look for the lost this way:
1. House: tells where it is (for example the area/room within the home)
2. Sign: tells where to go once you get to that area (for example where to look once you get to that room/area)
3. Element: tells you what level or height to look at once you get there.
[I think more things might come to your mind since you have a visual of the area we're looking at... I have no idea what city we are even in...I assume from the link, the country is Australia.]

You generally look at the main significator of the quesited primarily (secondarily at the moon).
1. House: 5th = N/N/W, areas of entertainment/beauty/law. Both Venus and the Moon are technically succeedent so it should be a fair distance.
2. Sign: Gemini = W/S, In an office building, near places people go for a walk, near places of study.
3. Element: Air = quite high up (in the bldg)

The Moon shows house W/S/W (which place), and sign S/W (Where you go once you get there), and element earth (ground level).

Between both Venus and the Moon, the predominant basic direction is West.

So, ultimately what I can guesstimate is that it is an office building, west from your location, likely to have something to do with beauty/entertainment/law. He likely works on one of the higher floors on the building.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure we'll ever find the answer for this one, because I don't see in the chart that you (Saturn) make any future aspects with Venus or the Moon. This would indicate that at least for the next little while, you won't find his workplace (or him since his Sig is the same). Would be nice to find out though... if you do happen to spot him again, you should stalk him all the way back to work so we can know... Lol...

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posted April 29, 2015 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
appleberry that's amazing!
There are LOTS of high rise buildings here in melbourne city so that much must be true about him being up high.
I'm so amazed at your detail!
in terms of the type of work, the stock exchange is two blocks away. maybe a little far to grab lunch?
There's definitely some law firms around there. Couldn't find any advertising agencies around though.
Maybe venus in the 5th just indicates how beautiful he was LOL!
He could be a foreigner but i just didn't get that feeling. He was very 'melbourne' and maybe it just indicates that he has a european background? i hope he's not about to leave.
What if I posted an image of a map of where we spotted each other? would that help? maybe not since it's telling us i probably won't even find him *sigh*
ah i just though of something. Could the 5th also represent children in that he could work at the Melbourne Children's Court which is actually west from where we saw each other! Either that or there is another law firm in the same block too.

if you do happen to spot him again, you should stalk him all the way back to work so we can know... Lol...
oh trust me, i won't let him get away next time

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posted April 29, 2015 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here's the first meeting chart:

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EmGem
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posted April 30, 2015 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any insight on this first meeting?
I'm going to go back to the spot where I saw him today. Let's just hope the horary is wrong!

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posted April 30, 2015 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's have a look at it together...

Here are some things we need to look at:

1. Check each planet痴 DIGNITIES, particularly Venus if it is a Love relationship. See if they are in their rulership or exalted, in their detriment or fall末showing harmony, motivation, energy, and desire.

2. Check the HOUSES of each planet末indicating activities and interests involved in the relationship. Important planets in the 1st, 5th, or 7th are beneficial for romantic relationships.

3. Check the House and Sign EMPHASIS末highlighting the type of activity and nature of feeling most likely to be present in the evolving relationship.

4. Check the RULERS of the 1st and 7th houses, for house placement, dignities, and aspect with each other; particularly, investigate the type of reception each ruler has with each other末determining compatibility and mutual attraction. Rulers on the Angles represent a significant bond or expectation of a significant bond.

5. Check the ASCENDANT末demonstrating the flavor of the outcome.

6. Check the Asc DEGREES (early or late)末implying the significance of the impact of the relationship (too early dilutes the significance).

7. Check the BENEFICS and MALEFICS (Venus/Jupiter & Mars/Saturn). Benefics work better in Angular houses, while Malefics are best located in Cadent houses.

8. Check the QUARTER of the Moon末offering hints to the type of emerging union. New Moons offer a better chance at a lasting relationship, while Full Moons offer a better chance at a more mature relationship.

9. Check the Moon痴 SIGN末offering a glance at the emotional nature and flavor of the relationship.

10. Check the MOON ASPECTS. Positive aspects with the Moon are important. Positive Moon亡un and Moon坊enus aspects are good for relationships. Positive Moon邦ars and Moon鳳luto are good for sexual relationships.

11. Check the FIRST APPLYING ASPECT of the Moon末the kickstart to the relationship.

12. Check the SEPARATING ASPECTS of the Moon末the influences affecting the relationship from the immediate past of each person, as well as expectations and needs of each person about the relationship.

13. Check the FINAL APPLYING ASPECT of the Moon末indicating where the relationship is likely to turn out by the end of the 3 months.

14. Check the ASPECTS of the other Planets, take note of the tightness of each aspect末indicating the strength of each influence on the relationship.

15. Check the SUN, aspecting which Planets, by which Aspect末the nature of the new relationship.

16. Check Aspects to the NORTH NODE末affecting the dynamics of karma or spiritual growth the evolving relationship will bring. Nodal Aspects are not always aspects of ease.

17. Check Planets in ANGULAR HOUSES (1st, 4th, 7th & 10th) which can indicate the influences on the relationship from the outside world.

18. Check Planets conjunct the ANGLES末indicating the bonds/values each person has to the relationship.

19. Check for an ASPECT PATTERN末demonstrating an overall pattern in the maintenance of the relationship.

20. Check the MODALITIES of the CROSS末 Cardinal Angles (likely dynamic and accepting of new beginnings/quick endings, but not always able to see things through); Fixed Angles (likely committed but difficulty adapting to new circumstances); Mutable Angles (likely adaptable but difficulty settling down); Mixed Angles (a blend of influences).

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posted May 01, 2015 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok i'm going to give this a go, although i'm pretty much a newbie at this

ASC in cancer - could this mean that the first sight has had quite an emotional flavour for us? It's at 26* so not sure what this could indicate, if its the same as horary.
Moon in the 12th house but it's in it's own sign which i take it to be a good thing. comfortable moon. but there's a secretive hidden aspect to this rel/sighting. in that we possibly secretly checked each other out and didn't expect to lock eyes. And the fact we didn't stop one another may indicate this secrective thing too? lol i'm pulling at straws here!
Separating aspects of the moon to determine how the past may affect this encounter:
moon trine neptune
moon square north node
moon sextiles MC

The first appying aspect of the moon is semisextile venus. Indicating a nurturing, caring energy that may have drawn us to pick each other out in the crowd. Perhaps instinctively we both wanted something deeper from one another than just a fling. (This is how it felt for me anyway).

The final applying aspect of the moon is trine chiron. The encounter is likely to have a healing/nurturing impact on us.

Moon sextile mars - instant sexual attraction. Argh!!!!

The 5th house ruler is in the 1st which i would take as good thing for the relationship?
Neptune in the 7th may indicate a romanticised encounter?

The conjunction of mars and mercury on the MC MUST be positive I'm thinking. A really powerful impact perhaps.

venus/mars are semi sextiling. a minor but positive romantic aspect.

I feel like all those points hitting pluto must mean the encounter was quite powerful for us and may possibly touch us quite deeply.

that's all i got. Appleberry was I right on any of this??

does this indicate how it's likely to evolve? considering i will see him again...

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