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mollywu
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posted May 03, 2015 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am interested in learning how to read FMC, but it is just too hard. I am going to share some FMCs as examples here. Hope to get some insights from you guys.( Both FMC and my natal-FMC synastry will be put here)

Example 1 is when I was meeting my first bf.
What do you think about it? I would be grateful for any opinions.

First meeting chart

My natal to this FMC synastry

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ikja
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posted May 03, 2015 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there is already quite a good thread to help you with this: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000721.html

Have a read and then come back with the things that you are unsure about.

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mollywu
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posted May 04, 2015 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, ikja. Thanks for suggestion.

I did read them, but still cannot finger out why this relationship ended, badly. It lasted for about 2 years.

In this FMC, it looks nice, not many square and opposite. Sun, Mercury, Saturn and Venus(yes Venus is going to change the sign, not good) all fall in 7th house in Cancer, it seemed nice, very nurturing. Moon (conjuncts my natal NN)has good sides and bad side: one way it is sexile Sun, Mercury and Saturn(it should be nice and stable according to the chart), another way, it is opposite Neptune, Mars and Uranus(seems very unstable).

Look at the synastry with my natal, FMC Moon conjuncts my natal NN closely, conjunct my natal Sun/Venus. FMC Sun and Mercury trine my natal Moon. FMC Saturn sexile my natal Sun/Venus. Yes, there are some challenges here, FMC Mars and Uranus are opposite my natal Sun/Venus, conjunct natal DSC and SN.

In a word, this FMC looks good. However, this relationship is the worst I have ever had. I didn¡¯t intend to meet him, I had never thought of having a relationship at that time. My gf set up a date for me but I refused at first, later she secretly called me to come to her place and then call him to come. Then we met, along with his mother.

He was lazy and a big liar. His father told me other things I didn¡¯t know(he kept secrets or he lied to me). I cried almost every week(I don¡¯t love him). I stayed with him because I wanted to help him. His family had big crisis, I wanted to stay with him to go through the big problem despite this and his poor health¡­ I was just too naïve, I was wrong. He didn¡¯t¡¯ change better. He left for another province, by and by, we drifted apart. But whenever I dreamed about him, it was always nightmares.

Why this meeting brought me nightmares? What did I miss here both in FMC?

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ail221
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posted May 04, 2015 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Despite harmonious aspects maybe as Appleberry mentions the effects were only applicable for the first few months.
I could see Chiron in 1st and Saturn in 7th causing havoc in any young relationship. This may also be an occasion where progressions to your natal charts outweigh everything else.

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appleberry
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posted May 04, 2015 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well, the final aspect of the moon in the FMC is square Pluto in the 12th... that sounds like a rough thing to deal with... Sounds like the relationship was destined to be a soul searching experience...

There's also Chiron in the 1st, Saturn in the 7th... Both powerful in angular houses...

There are definitely good points in this chart, but some of the negative ones have been put in prominent positions...

But also, an FMC is just like a transit affecting the relationship, and it's a stretch to say that it would be the cause of an ending that happened 2 years after that transit. That's like looking at last years Solar Return to explain the present year... sure, last year had an influence on this year, but you won't find the answers in a chart that is already passed...

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mollywu
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posted May 05, 2015 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
Despite harmonious aspects maybe as Appleberry mentions the effects were only applicable for the first few months.
I could see Chiron in 1st and Saturn in 7th causing havoc in any young relationship. This may also be an occasion where progressions to your natal charts outweigh everything else.

Thanks, Ali. Yes, you are right, I did ignore looking at Chiron and Saturn's position.

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mollywu
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posted May 05, 2015 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by appleberry:

Well, the final aspect of the moon in the FMC is square Pluto in the 12th... that sounds like a rough thing to deal with... Sounds like the relationship was destined to be a soul searching experience...

There's also Chiron in the 1st, Saturn in the 7th... Both powerful in angular houses...

There are definitely good points in this chart, but some of the negative ones have been put in prominent positions...

But also, an FMC is just like a transit affecting the relationship, and it's a stretch to say that it would be the cause of an ending that happened 2 years after that transit. That's like looking at last years Solar Return to explain the present year... sure, last year had an influence on this year, but you won't find the answers in a chart that is already passed...


Lot of thanks, appleberry. I thought Moon aspect Pluto means obessesive behavior.

You are right, FMC cannot affect a relationship so long. I just don't know how to read them. They are really complicated to me. About the transit, I have no idea how it affects me, a lot? I have found Short Report - Forecast provided by Robert Hand on www.astro.com is not very accurate. Most of time, it didn't happen or I didn't feel it at all. Also, it didn't affect my bf much either on transit.

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