posted May 21, 2015 02:06 PM            

Will he and I ever be a couple?

Short back story: I have no history with that guy, we aren’t friends, we meet once a weak but there must be some at least some kind of energy between us …

This Q was bothering me for days now and today early in the morning I suddenly felt the need to ask horary about it. So I did. And I got 0 degrees Ascendant. Gosh. I have been told that this could either mean that I (as querent) haven’t done anything yet to achieve ‘goal’ or that it is simply too early to answer this Q since thing are still in develop.

Do you see anything that would make you re-think; something that this horary chart could still be relevant even though there is an early Ascendant?

But then I still wanted to practice horary, so I left out the fact of an early Ascendant and dig into chart.

Here’s what I see in chart:

1) So I would be Sun (asc), he Saturn (7th House in Aquarius).
I see that there is applying connection between 1st and 7th House, but there is no reception (or is it? I am still learning!) The applying aspect however is opposition, which isn’t good, or so I have heard.

2) I am not sure if Sun applying Mars could mean anything? It is applying Saturn before it gets to Mars, so I am not sure if it even means anything.

3) Also – Sun is on 29 degrees and will change sign before it will do an exact opposition to Saturn. Could this mean anything? Some changes or something? Is it even relevant on what degree Sun is?

4) Then I also took Moon as for feelings in this whole story.
Moon is in applying conjunction with Venus, but both are in 12th House. Could this only indicate some hidden (since in 12th House) romantic thoughts from my side?

5) Can Saturn in 5th make any harm to the whole chart? Like in delaying things, connected to anything romantic?

6) What I also don’t understand quite good is whether Jupiter in 1st could have any meaning? Or is only meaningful when it makes a conjunction to a particular planet or ascendant?

Thank you so much in advance!

posted May 21, 2015 11:29 PM            

So that would be Sun/Mars... which is applying to a conjunction in the same house and sign. If the moon were aspecting at least one of you, I would consider the answer a probable yes.

You at 29˚ means that something about this scenario is really about to change for you.
More about 29˚ here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000652.html

Right now you are both in your house of friendship, but his house of relationship...

Having a benefic in your your house is a positive sign.

The fact that MercuryRx is the intercepted sign in his 7th house and heading right toward him is a concern; it could possibly be an ex-gf coming back to him (not certain, but possible).

I wouldn't be surprised if Moon applying to a conjunct with Venus is talking about you keeping your romantic feelings a secret... and maybe this could be a problem... 12th house is also the house of self-undoing...

posted May 23, 2015 12:14 PM            

I would however have some Qs for clarification, if possible.

@hannaramaa
How come that my 11th house is his 9th? I mean, how did you find this out?

@appleberry

Firstly I think that his Ex-GF could actually play the role out as you describe it – wanting him back! My Q would be: do Mercury always represents Ex-GF/BF?

At very end you have mentioned super early ASC and things changing dramatically when the time is over. Now about time: how can you predict time with horary – perhaps for this case; when will things dramatically change? I have read how some horary astrologers predicted changes and gave specific time (like in four weeks, or in one month or so), but I have never quite understood where did they see the time in horary chart.

And also: It’s to you worth notice that both – Sun (me) and ASC are extremely late/early?

GENERAL QUESTION: When is the best time to ask the same question again?

posted May 23, 2015 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Because he is formally your student he would be represented by the 3rd house, not the 7th. 7th is for people you've been dating or ex-husbands or the stranger at the grocery store, and even then its up for grabs between the 5th house depending

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Completely true... I didn't know he was a student of yours... 3rd is a totally logical choice.

No, Mercury is not always a person at all, but we look at the lords of houses when we want to see 'who' someone could be... everything is relative to the question/scenario at hand, so the chart must always adapt to that...

Timing is not something I've been able to find very accurate based on the rules given, but on this thread there are a bunch of links on Timing so you can understand how it's done: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000550.html

posted May 24, 2015 01:06 AM            

Why use the 3rd?

Isn't the 5th that has to do with feelings?

I mean, yes, he is formally my student, but we are talking about feelings here, about 5th House matter, or not? I mean for example; if he would be my good friend, should I use 11th house than even though I am asking about 5th/7th matter?

Sorry, it just confused me a bit…

posted May 24, 2015 05:39 AM            

You have a relationship that is student/teacher. Then the chart should indicated if there is anything further.

posted May 24, 2015 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:
Wait, now I am a bit confused…

Why use the 3rd?

Isn't the 5th that has to do with feelings?

I mean, yes, he is formally my student, but we are talking about feelings here, about 5th House matter, or not? I mean for example; if he would be my good friend, should I use 11th house than even though I am asking about 5th/7th matter?

Sorry, it just confused me a bit…

Thank you for link on timing, appleberry!

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The middle part, feelings, don't have a significator (well, technically it's whatever aspect makes between the other two significators I suppose). We gave him the 3rd house for the other horary chart you cast about him concerning feelings too I believe..

Whatever someone's title in your life is, that's they're significator. Maybe 5th can be used as some kind of third significator but in that instance the strength of the answer lessens (at least it makes sense to me that it'd lessen). So if I asked about my boss I would give him the 10th house because even if I don't like him, he's still a manager.

posted May 24, 2015 10:50 PM            

Some more questions though, if it's not too much to ask:
1) It’s to you worth notice that both – Sun (me) and ASC are extremely late/early?

2) When is usually the best time to ask the same question again?

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3) Another Q : Yesterday I did another chart with Q if I have already met my future husband. Would it be using the 7th House in this case the right thing to do?

So I would be Jupiter, he would be Mercury. There is applying aspect however I am not sure, if sextiles count in this kind of matter?

4) The ASC is almost late – any thought on this? Do you see 26 degrees as ‘late asc’ or is the chart still okay?

posted May 25, 2015 04:47 PM            

2) When is usually the best time to ask the same question again?

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3) Another Q : Yesterday I did another chart with Q if I have already met my future husband. Would it be using the 7th House in this case the right thing to do?

So I would be Jupiter, he would be Mercury. There is applying aspect however I am not sure, if sextiles count in this kind of matter?

4) The ASC is almost late – any thought on this? Do you see 26 degrees as ‘late asc’ or is the chart still okay?
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1) The significator ruler's degrees don't matter as much as the ASC itself. 26 degrees is a close call but technically still valid. Technically "invalid" charts are anything between 27 - 3 degrees.

2) Questions like that are better answered when phrased "Do I know the man I'm going to marry," "Does the man I'm going to marry know me?" but that's neither here nor there. Sextiles indicate a possibility but it depends if the aspect is applying or separating.