posted August 06, 2015 11:51 AM            

My Q is: ‘’Is he mad at me? Is he angry with me?’’

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However, his attitude towards me is different and now I am wondering, what this could be. Is he mad at me? Does he hate me?

So in this chart I am Jupiter (since this is the ruler of ASC), but who is he? Which house? Seventh perhaps? Or eleventh, since we were good friends (with some sort of benefits… )?

Pretty please anyone for help with interpretation. 🌼

posted August 09, 2015 12:28 PM            

Does it mean anything that we both (me as Jupiter, he as Venus) are in my 8th House?

Also - is it of any importance that he (as Venus) is retrograde?

posted August 29, 2015 06:14 AM              

Please allow me to work on Your horary.

But first i need the exact Place & Time of that horary.

+ It would be very useful if You would tell me Your birthdate/birthplace/birthtime

and at least his Birthdate

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Unfortunately im currently working on another 2 horarys and will reply to You, when everything is 100% ready.

That is tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

posted September 02, 2015 06:04 AM              

Finaly! Here we go!

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Ascendant Sagittarius -
Jupiter in 9th aspects Asc = 2xgood

Descendant Gemini -
Mercury in 9th aspects Asc in conjunction with Jupiter first lord = 3xgood

Venus in 9th aspects both 1st/7th lord = 2xgood

Ascendant aspected by Saturn = bad

Moon in Aries aspected by Mars/Saturn = 3xbad

=> Conclusion

He likes You a lot and loves You very much.

But there has been some conflict(Some serious conflict) between You two.

He is fúcking angry at the time of the query.

The conflict is based on money.
Money is the reason you both had a conflict.

Saturn/2nd lord/ aspects 1st/7th
Moon /his 2nd/ aspected by Mars/Saturn / his 6th/11th/8th(Your 2nd house lord)

posted September 04, 2015 06:28 AM            

Thank you for your effort. 🌼 🌼

I really have no clue, why would he be angry with me. There was no serious conflict between us – at least not the one where we would ‘fight with words’. We barely spoke in last three months. And our conversations were always ‘work-related’, nothing personal.

As I said – I don’t want anything from him anymore, only maybe his friendship, if he is willing for us be friends. But honestly, I don’t know if he loves/likes me or not anymore. I am not even sure that he ever had love-a-like feelings towards me. Honestly I don’t even know it he is capable to have such feelings towards me.

You have mentioned money as being a basis for conflict. I am not quite sure if money had (have) anything to do with the whole thing. Could 2nd House represent something else? Jealousy perhaps? 2nd House is also about possessions, right? I remembered that on the night, when his attitude has changed, I was dancing and talking a lot with his friend and we were really close that night…

So maybe this night was a trigger for him for being mad at me?

You haven also mentioned that this conflict is only temporary. Are there any signs that could indicate, when this conflict will be over?

posted September 04, 2015 04:17 PM              

2nd house does not have anything to do with esteem.

2nd house is food/clothes/wealth/throat/voice/money/possessions in general

2nd house has nothing to do with esteem!

Esteem is shown by
Sun - Its position
10th House - Its ruler/position
Planets in 10th house

But i agree with the jealousy. possible...

@Rebecca

i will check everything again and again and will reply soon.

Edit:

Ok! Again and Again!
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Ascendant Sagittarius
Descendant Gemini

Jupiter and Mercury in Conjunction = 100% Good

Mercury is aspected by Venus (His 5th)
+ Mercury/Jupiter/Venus aspect Ascendant

=> HE LOVES YOU VERY MUCH!

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Moon is in Aries aspected by Mars/Saturn

Mars rules 5th(your love towards him) and 12th (losses/expenditures)
is in 8th house (his 2nd) / his Money
=> Anger + Losses in love due to trouble in money-releated things
=> You caused him expenditures

Saturn is in 12th (high expenditures)
Saturn rules Your 2nd and 3rd/
(Money again)

Saturn aspects ascendant/mercury/jupiter
Moneylord aspects You/Him

Money again!

Mars aspects ascendant/mercury/jupiter
Money again!

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Mercury (him) aspected by Mars/Saturn
1]He is very angry/ thinking about Money/Losses

(cause of anger are expenditures caused by You)

Moon in Aries (Anger) also aspected by Mars/Saturn => 3x anger

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His anger is temporary.
You dont have any mutual future.

Although Mercury aspects Jupiter = Friendship

But venus is retro (his 5th) and aspected by Saturn

And Mars (your 5th) is debilitated and also aspected by Saturn

=> No mutual relationship!

On 24th of october you may talk about Your mutual love to each other and the like.

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The cause of his anger is again!
Money!
There are 6 aspects that show trouble coming from Money/Expenditures.

His 12th aspects Him => expenditures
(Venus aspected by Mercury)

Mercury aspected by Mars => expenditures that You caused Him

Mercury aspected by Saturn (Your 2nd)
=> Money again!

Mars as the route of trouble is in his 2nd
=> Money again!

Moon aspects Saturn (Your 2nd) and Mars (His 12th)
=> Money again!

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It may be he bought You a present and You didnt accept it ?

It may be he wanted to buy You a drink but You denied?

Please take a look at Your past.
Horoscope shows clearly, that he is VERY ANGRY!

5 aspects show Anger/Frustration

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He is not jealous.
His 2nd (Moon) does not aspect Ascendant or Jupiter.

posted September 04, 2015 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
The 2nd house has to do with your self-worth. Please do not address me anymore.

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Don't worry about Maximus, Hanna. He has zero connection with the Divine Spirit and is using purely textbooks for horary questions. No amount of book study will give him the Divine connection that he has proven he lacks with the evil he speaks.

You are correct about the 2nd house - simply because ALL of astrology is based on an energy that must be understood, and often that energy is hard to translate into words. He seems to simply translate words to find his answers and therefore he cannot understand how you are correct- he has never read in his textbook that this can be correct, therefore he thinks it must be wrong.

His readings are very dry and uninspired, an indication that someone is thinks that Astrology is some kind of 'paint-by-numbers' methodology. The rules of horary were written down by our ancestors to give us a kick-start in our journey. We were supposed to learn their rules and expand on them in a dynamic, evolving way that adapts itself to the lives we live in the places we live. There is no 'cut and dry' answer for any astrology or horary reading as he is trying to convince everybody. He's a con-man who's trying to trick us into buying his answer key (did it not seem that he was trying to 'sell' something in that other thread?) - trying to claim that 'only through him, can we reach God, only through him can we find the secret answers to life.' It's an unbelievable crock of bull-twaddle.

I also noticed him vehemently decide that the 5th house has nothing to do with relationships - yet he clearly has no understanding of our culture where certain relationships are primarily sexual, and often most of our 'relationships' are consummated before they actually become relationships - this is why we use the 5th house, but he cannot see this because he is too closed-minded and uneducated about international cultures and religions to understand that houses must be used in different ways based on the culture of the person asking.

I doubt he will ever truly understand the Divine energy, so I see him as a lost cause because he only wants to harm others and pat himself on the back for no good reason- it is up to him to ask God for the help he needs to overcome his incompetence in this area. In my opinion, he does more harm than good in this forum. If he can't keep his unwanted opinions to himself, he should go away.

Do not doubt yourself Hanna - I have seen your readings and I am truly confident in your ability to connect with the Divine in a manner which evades Maximus. And, I'm sure this is why he has such a chip on his shoulder. Whenever a man (and sometimes a woman) subconsciously senses his incompetence and inferiority in a certain area of life, he will undoubtedly lash out at others and try to hurt them to regain his own '2nd House Self-Esteem' ;-) Haven't you noticed in his posts that he always claims to be 'tired' and 'unable to say more' yet he claims to have 'ALL the answers, 100%'... It's not that hard to put two and two together with this guy - it's unfortunate that he has decided to come to this forum to throw a tantrum and belittle everyone else to try to pretend and convince HIMSELF that he actually is what he claims to be. He is not. He has more to learn than any of us. He holds no sacred knowledge. He is not the portal to Divine understanding. He is a con-man I just keep waiting for him to tell us 'For a limited time only, and for the ultra-discounted low monthly price of $99.99, You too can speak with God!'

posted September 04, 2015 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Wow, thanks Appleberry! He didn't bother me by trying to correct my statement, but I wanted to put a boundary there anyway. It's good to know you're keeping up with the forum in your own way.

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posted September 05, 2015 08:06 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
2nd house also has to do with esteem. With it's ruler being in Scorpio in the 11th I wonder if he is jealous of your friendships with other people, like wants yours and his friendship to be the same as theirs?

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That was actually exactly what I was thinking - it has to do something with esteem...