posted September 27, 2015 04:40 PM            

1. Horaries are only value for 3-6 months, so there's no guarantee - I know.
2. Not too sure which house to use for him. Our relationship has been rocky and we want two different things at present, but we're not talking at the moment. To me, he is HIM; but the other way around... Who knows? Lol - We have been intimate, so I'm debating whether I should use 5th or 7th to represent him.
3. Because of the confusion, I'm going to use the 7th house for him - for now.

I'm Venus and he is Mars (using 7th). We're conjunct, applying and in my 5th house which makes some sense. However, Saturn is in his house which suggests that there may be delays in coming together - which makes sense.

If I say that he is the Sun. I am in his house and sign, which makes sense because that shows that I am interested in him. He is in my 6th, makes sense because he is someone I see everyday. He is receiving me because the 6th house ruler is also Venus; but there's no aspect. That said, he is applying to the moon, but opposite which suggests a coming together to separate again within the year.

When I got a reading the other day, the lady used 7th for him, but I'm not sure here. Either way.... I sense STRUGGLE.

posted September 28, 2015 02:41 PM            

I'm using 7th for him, takes all the guesswork out and you guys have been intimate so..

Venus and Mars are applying, so are Sun and Moon. Yes there will be a struggle. I can tell you aren't being very open with him because you're in your own 12th house.

posted September 28, 2015 06:00 PM            

At present, I'm definitely not being as open as I could be. I've been open in the past (maybe reflected by my position in the past too) but I don't feel that way now. Definitely feel shut down.

I'm not sure about VOC moons! I need to find out more. Something about the moon not making anymore aspects before it leaves the sign? It's already made aspect to Saturn, but that's not enough?

Expression is definitely difficult for him! He does want to be seen as perfect and I think that he tries to keep that facade up as much possible! Does my head in.

posted September 28, 2015 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Thanks for having a look HR X

At present, I'm definitely not being as open as I could be. I've been open in the past (maybe reflected by my position in the past too) but I don't feel that way now. Definitely feel shut down.

I'm not sure about VOC moons! I need to find out more. Something about the moon not making anymore aspects before it leaves the sign? It's already made aspect to Saturn, but that's not enough?

Expression is definitely difficult for him! He does want to be seen as perfect and I think that he tries to keep that facade up as much possible! Does my head in.

Is he messing with my head? Not intentionally, I want to be with him but, urghhhh difficulty -_-

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posted September 29, 2015 04:31 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
With you being Venus in Leo and him MiV...part of me wonders if he idolizes you to the point of thinking he's not good enough. He feels you demand a lot from a partner, and he doesn't think you'll be happy with what he has to offer which is more of a quiet, dutiful service. Not in the "UGH she wants so much" way but almost as if he feels he's doing you a favor by just withdrawing. Just a thought..

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You know what? I think it might be a mutual thing of not feeling good enough. I feel like we need to have a talk, but to be honest... I'm not going to be the one who instigates that. Let me stay in my 12th house for the moment.

posted October 10, 2015 04:22 AM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
I thought when Saturn is in the 7th the chart gets thrown out...

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posted October 14, 2015 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
It depends on what else is happening in the chart.

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posted October 14, 2015 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Like what? I'm curious, I still have some charts I'm holding on to that I didn't read fully because of Saturn in the 7th.

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posted October 15, 2015 04:30 PM            

I think you really have to answer the VOC question here before the Saturn. I personally think that when the VOC is late it is because the situation is decided. The moon is not the outcome but it is the path of the situation. So...

The moon here is also aspecting Saturn first, so I say it goes back to whatever the Saturn issue is. Then there will be some sexual problems that arise b/c of the opp. of Sun v. Moon. And then there might be a chance to finally be together the Mars/Venus aspect, but making it thru all of these could be difficult. I didn't have a chance to look at dignity and debility, but that also will show if it is possible to handle all of the Saturn energy.

However, that is my interpretation and I am not always right. I do feel though that this chart is rich in disclosing what is going on and helping figure out what needs to be done in order to make things work. Divination is a tool after all and you still have free will.

As a sidebar some reading for fun: http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/lesson1/lesson1.html