posted February 25, 2016 03:01 AM            

I'm Mars and am very dominant in my first house. I think this means I'm focusing on trying to make myself happy... He's Venus and he doesn't aspect my Mars, but does trine my co-sig the moon. Me/Mars is in a separating square to his co-sig the sun. I'm guessing he doesn't make a good match????

posted February 25, 2016 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Think he would probably be into you more.

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posted February 25, 2016 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Think he would probably be into you more.

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posted February 25, 2016 04:26 PM            

Well, William Lilly recommended some considerations before analysing a horary chart to see whether it's valid and safe to be readen. I'm leaving a link here so you can take a look at which considerations those are. http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/lesson1/lesson1.html

The chart was cast in a Mercury day and the question made in the hour of Jupiter. Here it is another link to help you to identify the day/hour: http://www.astrology.com.tr/planetary-hours.asp

According to Lilly, when the ruler of the hour matches the ruler of the AC (when they are the same, or are in the same triplicity), the question/chart is radical, that is, really important to be judged. In your case, the chart is nocturnal, and Mars (AC ruler) and Jupiter (hour ruler) are not in the same triplicity: the question is trivial by nature, doesn't have good ground to be answered, therefore, the chart reading won't hold accuracy. So I have to agree with hannaramaa.

Another "judgment stricture" pointed out by Lilly that is present in your chart is Saturn in the 1st house. Lilly says that such placement of Saturn usually creates delay or unfulfilled expectations on the subject matter the question is about. It means you'll expect things happening in a certain way/speed and they won't.

I've seen several discussions whether the chart should be judged or not in the conditions mentioned above. It seems there's no agreement among astrologers about it. But considering Classical Astrology approach, those are impairments to be considered.

The rest seems okay to me:
*AC is not in critical degrees (3 earliest or 3 last degrees of a sign) and its ruler (Mars) is not combust;
*the Moon is not in Void of Course or in Via Combusta;

I'll give a try anyways...
You are Mars and Moon. He is Venus and Sun.

YOU
- Mars is in Domicile (Scorpio), placed in an angular house (1st) and conjunct the AC (your head). Mars also rules your 5th (house of love and romance). You seem very determined to find love. Mars is powerful by dignity and house placement in the sign of Scorpio (fixed water), so your idea about finding a lover is on the edge of obsession, and you wanna make that happen no matter what, I would say. Turning the chart, your Mars is placed in his 7th house: you're attached to the idea of possibly having a relationship with him, but not because you think he's the one but because finding someone became a fixed idea. In this particular situation, you're not showing your interest to the guy openly (Mars in Scorpio has a secretive nature).
- Moon is in Libra, sign ruled by Venus (his main significator). You are interested in him and enjoy the conversations you have. The Moon just entered your 11th house (house of social network), meaning you just met. Turning the chart, the Moon is in his 5th house: I think he's got some interest in you too. Remember though that the 5th house is not about commitment but fun, flirts and casual involvements. Looking at the chart, I'm not sure if the Moon in intercepted too (it seems like to me). If that's the case, that will definitely be his focus on you: nothing serious. Libra is the Sun fall: maybe you don't feel strongly attracted to him on a physical level or to the way he portrays as a male. I think your attraction towards him is more mental/intellectual related.
- Saturn in your first can delay or deny your expectations related to the development of the situation. It also indicates you're feeling lonely (maybe this would explain your obsession about finding someone and entering a relationship).

THE GUY
- Venus is in Aquarius, sign ruled by Saturn (which is placed in your first house). Saturn means authority, so he has the power over the situation. His attitudes will define if the situation goes ahead or not. His Venus rules his 5th house and placed in the 10th: he might be interested in finding romance but something casual; he seems to be more focused on his career. His Venus is intercepted with Mercury in your 3rd house. The focus will be communication but no guarantees that something real will come out of it. Turning the chart, his Venus is in his 9th house (house of foreign elements). Is this guy a foreigner or does he live in a foreign country? Just wondering here...
- Sun is in Pisces, sign ruled by Jupiter. Pisces exalts Venus (his main significator). This guy seems to have a very good sense of value of himself, body and mind are linked and maybe he's not the type that would go for something that he doesn't really want. He seems to have high standards in terms of relationship and wouldn't settle down for less. Pisces shares triplicity with Cancer (sign ruled by the Moon, your co-significator) and with Scorpio (sign ruled by Mars) so there's some dignity by element here and it speaks for some sexual attraction from his side. The Sun rules Leo, sign that is intercepted in your 9th house, reinforcing the idea that this guy is in another country or that he comes from a different background. His Sun placed in your 4th house conjunct the IC and in his 10th shows that you're more interested in a family oriented/traditional type of relationship while he's more focused in career/social projection.

THE SITUATION
Besides a very loose square to the Sun, Mars (you) doesn't aspect any of the other classical planets, meaning you're seeing opportunities even when they are not material. You may be strongly attached to the idea of finding love and having a relationship and not to someone in special. Your Mars is separating from a square to his Sun but as the Sun moves a bit faster than Mars it'll reach Aries and apply for another trine to Mars in Sagittarius (I checked the Ephemerides 2016). The Sun gets exalted in Aries and Aries is ruled by Mars (your main significator), maybe he'll get more interested in you overtime.
The Moon (you) just applied for a trine to Venus (him) so you're inclined to keep the thing going and see what comes out of it. The Moon (you) will enter Scorpio soon and will apply for a trine to the Sun (his co-significator). The Moon is in fall in the sign of Scorpio, therefore, weak and powerless to make things happen. The Moon in Scorpio can be very obsessive and if the situation unfolds contrarily to what you expect, you can have a hard time to let things go.
Some astrologers also mention that when the Quesited's significator conjunct another planet that has no relationship with the Querent, it could represent the Quesited with someone else. I can't really affirm that since I'm not experienced in Horary. But if it's true, your chart has his Venus conjunct Mercury, so Mercury could represent this other person. Whatever... that was not your question.

As far as the entire dynamic goes, I can't see a relationship materializing in this chart because your main significators are not in each other's dignities and none of his significators are placed in or linked to your 1st house. In my opinion, if something happens between you, it won't have a serious/committed tone.

posted February 25, 2016 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Excellent feedback Roselima! Thank you for the links and the time you put into that!

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posted February 25, 2016 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I don't think anything matters in this chart because of the Moon is nearly void, but I agree w your Mars in 1H interpretation.

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posted February 25, 2016 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Wondering how you got that? Mars is in its own house and doesn't aspect Venus. I didn't look at 5th though..

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She's Mars and in her own house and also at home and power in Scorpio. So, I see her as focused on herself not REALLY focused on him if it were to go further.

posted February 25, 2016 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
She's Mars and in her own house and also at home and power in Scorpio. So, I see her as focused on herself not REALLY focused on him if it were to go further.

I used Venus because that is what she was looking at, usually I would use the 3rd house. Anyway, if I agreed with Venus being used as his significator, then the moon (the situation) is in Libra (ruled by Venus) and being received by him because he is Venus. There's also an applying trine between him (Venus) and the co sig - so that suggest he would be more interested in the situation.

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posted February 25, 2016 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Hi, SunAscendant

Well, William Lilly recommended some considerations before analysing a horary chart to see whether it's valid and safe to be readen. I'm leaving a link here so you can take a look at which considerations those are. http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/lesson1/lesson1.html

The chart was cast in a Mercury day and the question made in the hour of Jupiter. Here it is another link to help you to identify the day/hour: http://www.astrology.com.tr/planetary-hours.asp

According to Lilly, when the ruler of the hour matches the ruler of the AC (when they are the same, or are in the same triplicity), the question/chart is radical, that is, really important to be judged. In your case, the chart is nocturnal, and Mars (AC ruler) and Jupiter (hour ruler) are not in the same triplicity: the question is trivial by nature, doesn't have good ground to be answered, therefore, the chart reading won't hold accuracy. So I have to agree with hannaramaa.

Another "judgment stricture" pointed out by Lilly that is present in your chart is Saturn in the 1st house. Lilly says that such placement of Saturn usually creates delay or unfulfilled expectations on the subject matter the question is about. It means you'll expect things happening in a certain way/speed and they won't.

I've seen several discussions whether the chart should be judged or not in the conditions mentioned above. It seems there's no agreement among astrologers about it. But considering Classical Astrology approach, those are impairments to be considered.

The rest seems okay to me:
*AC is not in critical degrees (3 earliest or 3 last degrees of a sign) and its ruler (Mars) is not combust;
*the Moon is not in Void of Course or in Via Combusta;

I'll give a try anyways...
You are Mars and Moon. He is Venus and Sun.

YOU
- Mars is in Domicile (Scorpio), placed in an angular house (1st) and conjunct the AC (your head). Mars also rules your 5th (house of love and romance). You seem very determined to find love. Mars is powerful by dignity and house placement in the sign of Scorpio (fixed water), so your idea about finding a lover is on the edge of obsession, and you wanna make that happen no matter what, I would say. Turning the chart, your Mars is placed in his 7th house: you're attached to the idea of possibly having a relationship with him, but not because you think he's the one but because finding someone became a fixed idea. In this particular situation, you're not showing your interest to the guy openly (Mars in Scorpio has a secretive nature).
- Moon is in Libra, sign ruled by Venus (his main significator). You are interested in him and enjoy the conversations you have. The Moon just entered your 11th house (house of social network), meaning you just met. Turning the chart, the Moon is in his 5th house: I think he's got some interest in you too. Remember though that the 5th house is not about commitment but fun, flirts and casual involvements. Looking at the chart, I'm not sure if the Moon in intercepted too (it seems like to me). If that's the case, that will definitely be his focus on you: nothing serious. Libra is the Sun fall: maybe you don't feel strongly attracted to him on a physical level or to the way he portrays as a male. I think your attraction towards him is more mental/intellectual related.
- Saturn in your first can delay or deny your expectations related to the development of the situation. It also indicates you're feeling lonely (maybe this would explain your obsession about finding someone and entering a relationship).

THE GUY
- Venus is in Aquarius, sign ruled by Saturn (which is placed in your first house). Saturn means authority, so he has the power over the situation. His attitudes will define if the situation goes ahead or not. His Venus rules his 5th house and placed in the 10th: he might be interested in finding romance but something casual; he seems to be more focused on his career. His Venus is intercepted with Mercury in your 3rd house. The focus will be communication but no guarantees that something real will come out of it. Turning the chart, his Venus is in his 9th house (house of foreign elements). Is this guy a foreigner or does he live in a foreign country? Just wondering here...
- Sun is in Pisces, sign ruled by Jupiter. Pisces exalts Venus (his main significator). This guy seems to have a very good sense of value of himself, body and mind are linked and maybe he's not the type that would go for something that he doesn't really want. He seems to have high standards in terms of relationship and wouldn't settle down for less. Pisces shares triplicity with Cancer (sign ruled by the Moon, your co-significator) and with Scorpio (sign ruled by Mars) so there's some dignity by element here and it speaks for some sexual attraction from his side. The Sun rules Leo, sign that is intercepted in your 9th house, reinforcing the idea that this guy is in another country or that he comes from a different background. His Sun placed in your 4th house conjunct the IC and in his 10th shows that you're more interested in a family oriented/traditional type of relationship while he's more focused in career/social projection.

THE SITUATION
Besides a very loose square to the Sun, Mars (you) doesn't aspect any of the other classical planets, meaning you're seeing opportunities even when they are not material. You may be strongly attached to the idea of finding love and having a relationship and not to someone in special. Your Mars is separating from a square to his Sun but as the Sun moves a bit faster than Mars it'll reach Aries and apply for another trine to Mars in Sagittarius (I checked the Ephemerides 2016). The Sun gets exalted in Aries and Aries is ruled by Mars (your main significator), maybe he'll get more interested in you overtime.
The Moon (you) just applied for a trine to Venus (him) so you're inclined to keep the thing going and see what comes out of it. The Moon (you) will enter Scorpio soon and will apply for a trine to the Sun (his co-significator). The Moon is in fall in the sign of Scorpio, therefore, weak and powerless to make things happen. The Moon in Scorpio can be very obsessive and if the situation unfolds contrarily to what you expect, you can have a hard time to let things go.
Some astrologers also mention that when the Quesited's significator conjunct another planet that has no relationship with the Querent, it could represent the Quesited with someone else. I can't really affirm that since I'm not experienced in Horary. But if it's true, your chart has his Venus conjunct Mercury, so Mercury could represent this other person. Whatever... that was not your question.

As far as the entire dynamic goes, I can't see a relationship materializing in this chart because your main significators are not in each other's dignities and none of his significators are placed in or linked to your 1st house. In my opinion, if something happens between you, it won't have a serious/committed tone.

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posted February 25, 2016 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Hmmmm, I don't see the trine as a sign that he's more interested if her significator is not in his dignities. At least that's how I have been seeing traditional horary astrologers reading the charts. The trine means there's some connection between them but doesn't guarantee he likes her or would establish a relationship. He's receptive to the situation cause he may be interested in a flirt. Another thing is that he's Venus in Aquarius and Air signs are not the silent type: if they're interested they'll let you know. On the other hand, Water signs (like her Mars in Scorpio) tend to be mute, not expressing their wantings and emotions so openly. In her case, I'd say she even tries to hide her feelings/intentions. That's how Scorpios are: they fear rejection so they won't demonstrate vulnerability till they are sure they are not going to be played with. I agree she's not focusing on him, she's focusing on herself and her solitude (Saturn in the 1st). That's why I think she's going so strong in finding someone.

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I do see the trine as that in this instance, when I compare her position to his position, that's my impression; but we can agree to disagree on that one.

Furthermore, in terms of the Venus in Aquarius people that I know; their general disposition is aloof/detached. They are not necessarily upfront and brazen, they prefer to be friends first and let things warm up. You may even get the impression that they are using you due to their nature, but they really like you.

posted February 27, 2016 02:56 AM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Hi, SunAscendant

Well, William Lilly recommended some considerations before analysing a horary chart to see whether it's valid and safe to be readen. I'm leaving a link here so you can take a look at which considerations those are. http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/lesson1/lesson1.html

The chart was cast in a Mercury day and the question made in the hour of Jupiter. Here it is another link to help you to identify the day/hour: http://www.astrology.com.tr/planetary-hours.asp

According to Lilly, when the ruler of the hour matches the ruler of the AC (when they are the same, or are in the same triplicity), the question/chart is radical, that is, really important to be judged. In your case, the chart is nocturnal, and Mars (AC ruler) and Jupiter (hour ruler) are not in the same triplicity: the question is trivial by nature, doesn't have good ground to be answered, therefore, the chart reading won't hold accuracy. So I have to agree with hannaramaa.

Another "judgment stricture" pointed out by Lilly that is present in your chart is Saturn in the 1st house. Lilly says that such placement of Saturn usually creates delay or unfulfilled expectations on the subject matter the question is about. It means you'll expect things happening in a certain way/speed and they won't.

I've seen several discussions whether the chart should be judged or not in the conditions mentioned above. It seems there's no agreement among astrologers about it. But considering Classical Astrology approach, those are impairments to be considered.

The rest seems okay to me:
*AC is not in critical degrees (3 earliest or 3 last degrees of a sign) and its ruler (Mars) is not combust;
*the Moon is not in Void of Course or in Via Combusta;

I'll give a try anyways...
You are Mars and Moon. He is Venus and Sun.

YOU
- Mars is in Domicile (Scorpio), placed in an angular house (1st) and conjunct the AC (your head). Mars also rules your 5th (house of love and romance). You seem very determined to find love. Mars is powerful by dignity and house placement in the sign of Scorpio (fixed water), so your idea about finding a lover is on the edge of obsession, and you wanna make that happen no matter what, I would say. Turning the chart, your Mars is placed in his 7th house: you're attached to the idea of possibly having a relationship with him, but not because you think he's the one but because finding someone became a fixed idea. In this particular situation, you're not showing your interest to the guy openly (Mars in Scorpio has a secretive nature).
- Moon is in Libra, sign ruled by Venus (his main significator). You are interested in him and enjoy the conversations you have. The Moon just entered your 11th house (house of social network), meaning you just met. Turning the chart, the Moon is in his 5th house: I think he's got some interest in you too. Remember though that the 5th house is not about commitment but fun, flirts and casual involvements. Looking at the chart, I'm not sure if the Moon in intercepted too (it seems like to me). If that's the case, that will definitely be his focus on you: nothing serious. Libra is the Sun fall: maybe you don't feel strongly attracted to him on a physical level or to the way he portrays as a male. I think your attraction towards him is more mental/intellectual related.
- Saturn in your first can delay or deny your expectations related to the development of the situation. It also indicates you're feeling lonely (maybe this would explain your obsession about finding someone and entering a relationship).

THE GUY
- Venus is in Aquarius, sign ruled by Saturn (which is placed in your first house). Saturn means authority, so he has the power over the situation. His attitudes will define if the situation goes ahead or not. His Venus rules his 5th house and placed in the 10th: he might be interested in finding romance but something casual; he seems to be more focused on his career. His Venus is intercepted with Mercury in your 3rd house. The focus will be communication but no guarantees that something real will come out of it. Turning the chart, his Venus is in his 9th house (house of foreign elements). Is this guy a foreigner or does he live in a foreign country? Just wondering here...
- Sun is in Pisces, sign ruled by Jupiter. Pisces exalts Venus (his main significator). This guy seems to have a very good sense of value of himself, body and mind are linked and maybe he's not the type that would go for something that he doesn't really want. He seems to have high standards in terms of relationship and wouldn't settle down for less. Pisces shares triplicity with Cancer (sign ruled by the Moon, your co-significator) and with Scorpio (sign ruled by Mars) so there's some dignity by element here and it speaks for some sexual attraction from his side. The Sun rules Leo, sign that is intercepted in your 9th house, reinforcing the idea that this guy is in another country or that he comes from a different background. His Sun placed in your 4th house conjunct the IC and in his 10th shows that you're more interested in a family oriented/traditional type of relationship while he's more focused in career/social projection.

THE SITUATION
Besides a very loose square to the Sun, Mars (you) doesn't aspect any of the other classical planets, meaning you're seeing opportunities even when they are not material. You may be strongly attached to the idea of finding love and having a relationship and not to someone in special. Your Mars is separating from a square to his Sun but as the Sun moves a bit faster than Mars it'll reach Aries and apply for another trine to Mars in Sagittarius (I checked the Ephemerides 2016). The Sun gets exalted in Aries and Aries is ruled by Mars (your main significator), maybe he'll get more interested in you overtime.
The Moon (you) just applied for a trine to Venus (him) so you're inclined to keep the thing going and see what comes out of it. The Moon (you) will enter Scorpio soon and will apply for a trine to the Sun (his co-significator). The Moon is in fall in the sign of Scorpio, therefore, weak and powerless to make things happen. The Moon in Scorpio can be very obsessive and if the situation unfolds contrarily to what you expect, you can have a hard time to let things go.
Some astrologers also mention that when the Quesited's significator conjunct another planet that has no relationship with the Querent, it could represent the Quesited with someone else. I can't really affirm that since I'm not experienced in Horary. But if it's true, your chart has his Venus conjunct Mercury, so Mercury could represent this other person. Whatever... that was not your question.

As far as the entire dynamic goes, I can't see a relationship materializing in this chart because your main significators are not in each other's dignities and none of his significators are placed in or linked to your 1st house. In my opinion, if something happens between you, it won't have a serious/committed tone.

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D*mn thanks for the interpretation. Next time you don't have to write a ton. I have ADD and Mercury in Aries so I skip around a lot and can't read a long passage.

posted February 28, 2016 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
This f*cking loser canceled and said he is too busy with work and school. What a last minute jerk. Waste of my time. I hate guys like that. I hope he fails miserably with dating.

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Oh, so sorry to hear that, Sun Ascendant. Yep, this kind of behavior sucks. Geeeez, I was checking the chart again. Delay/denial of your expectations could be Saturn in your 1H. Only communication, no real encounter happened because he's busy with school/career (his Venus intercepted in your 3H/his 9H and his Sun in your 4H/his 10H).

posted February 29, 2016 04:18 AM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Oh, so sorry to hear that, Sun Ascendant. Yep, this kind of behavior sucks. Geeeez, I was checking the chart again. Delay/denial of your expectations could be Saturn in your 1H. Only communication, no real encounter happened because he's busy with school/career (his Venus intercepted in your 3H/his 9H and his Sun in your 4H/his 10H).

You got mad at him (the Moon close to Via Combusta, moving from Libra to Scorpio). I know it may sound cliché but better finding out he's not committed to his words now than later. He should know he wouldn't be able to meet you earlier. Cancelling an encounter a few hours before is rude.

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