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Topic: "I want to know if he has someone else"
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 21, 2016 09:44 AM
Posting for a friend who asked me to do so. Looking for more opinions. "He" refers to her long time husband, who is soon to be her ex. I am guessing this might be why we see Saturn trine Venus here, but am not quite experienced enough yet in horary to be absolutely certain and so want to check with you knowledgeable folks.. She is looking for confirmation or denial of her suspicion/intuition that he is cheating/with somebody else, as per the question in the title. I have told her, based on the chart, that very possibly he is seeing somebody else, as Uranus is square the Sun and is on the cusp of the 6th which is the 12th from the 7th, his ruler Venus is opposite the Moon and quincunx Neptune and Pluto, indicating very likely that there is tension and a strong control dynamic, and probably something he isn't telling her, or which is about to be revealed (Moon in the 3rd opposite Venus as the release point of that Yod). I also thought Lilith on the cusp of the 12th was telling; might not show in this chart.... but True Lilith was on the cusp of the 12th in my software. I think this one shows Mean Lilith. I thought it was interesting that the Part of Fortune is in the 7th house, and I thought there were several indications that this was a joyful relationship for him somehow. It also seems likely that, given the 1st house Mars opposite the POF, as well as other indicators, she might be correct in her suspicion that: a) he is with another man and b) that this would give her an excellent, "fortunate," excuse to leave the relationship sooner rather than later (finalize the divorce)--which she does in fact want to do. Thank you for any insight you can provide.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 67717 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2016 12:30 PM
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Radium Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted July 22, 2016 10:34 PM
Uranus in hard aspect to Sun in Eight (House of Intimacy, Personal Power, Sex, Death, The Truth under everything, Primal instincts)Uranus is planet of uncaring and unconventional spiritual rebellion in the 5th the house of fun, kids (big one) creation, talent, recreation, fun Sunny Love (5th is ruled by the Sun) Her Venus or your Venus isn't really placed that bad IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 67717 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2016 12:44 PM
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 23, 2016 02:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Radium: Uranus in hard aspect to Sun in Eight (House of Intimacy, Personal Power, Sex, Death, The Truth under everything, Primal instincts)Uranus is planet of uncaring and unconventional spiritual rebellion in the 5th the house of fun, kids (big one) creation, talent, recreation, fun Sunny Love (5th is ruled by the Sun) Her Venus or your Venus isn't really placed that bad
It's not for me, as I said. I'm painfully.honest on these forums and if it were about.me I would tell you . I figured Venus represented him as it is her 7th house ruler. I thought since she almost seems to want him to have someone else it might still indicate he's having an affair. It's happy and in the 9th... Can you tell us what conclusions you've drawn from your observations? IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 08:01 PM
Oh yeah my bad is in in 9th..By the looks of it I don't think he's cheating... Well aspected Venus and Mars.. Only thing is Uranus in 5th maybe he could be seeing other people but not really into anything affair like yet..like if something doesn't change soon between them then things will get bad. Right now its good cool I believe IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 08:06 PM
I feel if he was cheating there'd be more squares and oppositions.. Or at least some bad aspects to Pluto or Venus..but its all good..If he was cheating and happy believe me baby girl you would know IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 67717 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2016 11:47 AM
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liz45750 Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 31, 2016 12:40 PM
Okay Id like a little more information before I give this one a shot... I'm actually really excited to reply! lolSo you said you think he may be with another man? Is that a possibility or a typo? Also, was the question a yes or no question, or worded exactly as your headline of this post and you'd like to find out the surrounding details or whatever? IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 31, 2016 05:55 PM
It was worded exactly like in the headline, the question. Actually she said "I guess I wanna know if he has someone else?" I realize now that you say so that it isn't in fact a yes or no question, but when I asked her if she meant "does he have someone else?" She said yes and I proceeded assuming that was good enough. Still learning. Maybe the question isn't clear enough. That would explain a few things actually... But if we take it as a yes or no question which in essence it is, then I'm curious to see what you'll say about the chart. and no it was not a typo, she does think it's possible it is with a man. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 31, 2016 05:57 PM
I'm thinking the Sun nearly anaretic in Cancer indicates the close of his life as a family man.IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 31, 2016 06:01 PM
Mars rules the querant and is very strongly placed in Scorpio in the 1st house, not afflicted, and separating from a trine to the Sun, indicating that the querant is of sound mind and is also accurately perceiving the man/quesited. Since this is part of the question I believe the chart is saying in no uncertain terms that she is in a strong position and to trust her instincts.IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 31, 2016 06:05 PM
Saturn is at the bending of the nodes, indicating his role as father is in crisis at this time. Also that it is directly affecting the querant in a pretty huge way, and weighing on her..IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 31, 2016 06:06 PM
Sorry I just went for it again, I still want to hear what you would say very much liz! Just been studying horary and coming to understand more so I am making more notes.IP: Logged |
liz45750 Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 01, 2016 04:21 AM
lol! its okay im new too... I just wanna try this one....Their rulers dont form any aspect, so im assuming that in their opinion there isn't much left to this relationship. The answer is no if it's a yes or no answer you want, but i believe it's "no, not right now, but in the recent past yes" lol.. If it's details surrounding that you want i'll give you my impression Take it for what it's worth, it's just my hunch and im not 100% on all of this yet (thats my disclaimer) lol so first, mars is in her own sign, so clearly she's being or has been selfish (if i thought my guy was seeing some other dude i'd be acting selfish too) i'm pretty sure saturn R in the first means the charts interpretation can be skewed his significator is right up on mercury, but it's a separating aspect, i think mercury is the bf they're both in leo, leo is very self centered, soooooo her co-significator is the moon which is in opposition to them both they're both aspecting neptune and saturn also in R.. to me it gives the impression they've recently decided to change their mind (retro) end (saturn and the fact that mercury and venus are separating) their deluded (neptune) affair I say affair because the 5th house of flings is intercepted, that means the things inside are hidden in some way, in this case uranus is there, which is the primary representation for gay relationships they're both in applying opposition aspect to the moon, maybe this is because she's just noticing it? or it's just coming out in the open their planets are awfully close to the sun, not sure if combustion would apply here or not, i'm not to familiar with that Does his relationship with the man involve some sort of travel or education of some sort? I'm just curious with them being in the 9th house Now the sun, is she seeing someone else? I'm shooting in the dark here, but she has a separating aspect to the sun, was she seeing someone else? Or interested in someone else and he made her happier than her husband did (her mars aspecting jupiter, but its separating) just a guess... lol... let me know if there was another guy or no
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 01, 2016 11:48 AM
Wonderful work, I really enjoyed reading your interpretation! There has been another guy on her mind, but nothing has "happened," beyond friendship and getting to know one another, but there is/was a decidedly romantic vibe. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2955 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 01, 2016 11:50 AM
I don't know anything about his relationship with the man. I have been noticing the 9th house coming up when affairs are going on, more than once, actually. I think it might have to do with the Sag rulership, Sag is rather notorious for needing their freedom so to speak, and in some ways their lofty ideals are what allow them to feel justified in sleeping around. They hold their freedom in the highest esteem... just a thought.IP: Logged |