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Topic: Will my boss leave the company within the next 12 months?
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HelixID
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posted September 06, 2018 08:50 AM
  
Hi guys,I'd like to know whether my boss will leave/quit within the next twelve months or sooner. He gives me a lot of responsibilities and I'm thankful on one hand because it enables me to learn and grow in what I do. I appreciate that.
But one the other hand, in recent months I've been having the feeling that he delegates more and more of the tasks to me and other people which he should be doing instead.
The team morale is low because of this and I believe we would all be better of if he quit. He is not someone who is assertive or emphatic, he just doesn't want to rock the boat and it's really annoying. I see that the Moon is applying to an opposition to Mars, 5 degrees. It's in cardinal signs but in succedent houses. Could something happen in 5 time units, 5 months maybe? I would love to hear what you guys have to say about it. 
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Jessica2407
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posted September 07, 2018 01:44 AM
Had a quick look. I don't think he will quit and he def will not be fired.His sig is about to change sign into his domicile signifies something important is going to happen to him that might change his situation at your company or a new job offer. IP: Logged |
HelixID
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posted September 08, 2018 06:53 PM
Hey Jessica, thanks for your input.So his signifier is Mercury then? I wasn't sure which house/planet to pick for him.
Mercury is already in its domicile albeit only by a few minutes. Could the change be related to health issues since Mercury is in Virgo? He mentioned the other day that he's had backpain for many weeks. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 09, 2018 12:10 PM
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Jessica2407
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posted September 10, 2018 01:25 AM
No, why would it be about his health? This horary chart is about him leaving the company, besides he is essentially dignified in Virgo. Sun is in direct opposition to his 10th house, may cause certain challenges to his authoritative power, in addition he is under the sun beams causing fear and confusion as how to exert his authority, however mercury is applying to a trine to a dignified saturn nonetheless retrograde from his 7th house could signify his contractual agreement. Moon has separated from Jupiter ruler of the 10th and 7th in the 6th where she falls, shows how he feels about the environment he is working, he either can't show initiative and authority or do not know how, Jupiter however exalts in cancer therefore will get the support of the moon.One thing that puzzles me is why is he in your 12th of house of secrets and hidden things? and does he have someone he is in a relationship with in this company? Venus is dignified in his 5th, to which moon is applying with a square. IP: Logged |
HelixID
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posted September 11, 2018 02:06 AM
I thought since his signifier is Mercury in Virgo (health among other things) the reason for him quitting might be health related should he be contemplating to quit.Regarding the twelfth house of seccrets and the fifth house Venus, well, I'd be very very surprised if he had a secret affair at work but you never know. He's married but that doesn't keep people away from having affairs, does it. It's just that he is socially awkward, he'd probably have an affair if a woman threw herself at him - literally. I'll give you some more background on this , maybe it'll make more sense. This guy got his position undeservedly according to the rest of the team. He's basically mediating between the team and his direct supervisor. He used to be a regular employee in the team, left after a while and then came back again. His current boss as a matter of fact created this position for him as a kind of team lead so that the other one wouldn't have to deal with us directly. This all happened before I took the job.
My boss does a lot of the work his boss should be doing and in turn our boss is delegating a lot of stuff to a few of us.
Resentment is growing to the point that,people are constantly calling in sick or even quitting.
He would prefer if all the colleagues who have been here for years would leave as soon as possible and then to mould a new team with new people to his liking. He's told me this more than once and he sees me as his ally in his "war" against those old colleagues. The thing is, I like my colleagues, they are cool people. I like especially one female colleague from the team, she's very competent, is liked by everyone in the company and is a member of the workers' council. Only my boss and his boss hate her. They are doing all they can to discredit her at every step and to push her out of the company.
I don't know why this is happening, maybe she's somehow in the wrong but my gut feeling tells me that they are just being manipulative a*******.
The twelfth house is the house of secret enemies (I don't know if this applies to horary), could it be that my boss is also plotting against me? Plotting is maybe too harsh a word but I could imagine he's pushing me that much not because he is trying to help me but because he has a hidden agenda.
He took a lot of my female colleague's tasks and gave them to me. He probably wanted to divide us but that didn't happen. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted September 11, 2018 03:54 AM
Okay now it makes more sense.He is in your 12th of hidden enemies, I'd yes you should be wary of him, there is a hidden agenda. Good that you are aware of it but you might not see him coming at you when he is using you to divide and rule, it might too subtle to catch since the sun and his sig are both in your 12th, mercury also signifies the job itself for you, while the environment in which you are working is signified by Saturn retrograde dignified in domicile. I think the female colleague is signified by Venus in libra, she has a mind of her own for sure, the moon is applying to a square in 3 units time,I'm not good with timing it could be 3 weeks or 3 months, although moon is sympathetic towards venus in libra but Venus is short of a few degrees into scorp therefore will lose her dignity and also scorp is where moon falls, she will have to be careful and keep a low profile for a bit. Moon then goes to oppose Mars, ruler of his derived 6th house ( working environment) when mars loses his dignity being a few minutes from entering Aquarius. IP: Logged |
HelixID
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posted September 11, 2018 12:02 PM
I recently took upon a project where I basically have to implement a process that will be rolled out in my team but not everyone will be doing the tasks connected to it. He asked me who would be fit for that and I suggested a few experienced people (among them the female colleague). He didn't agree with the choices and he said something that left me a little bit confused.
He said, we need to involve the new colleagues more. I told him that this would be overwhelming for them, that they need to learn some other things before they could tackle this. The project involves quite a bit technical understanding and the experienced colleagues would learn it more quickly, it'd be easier for them. He said that this might be true but that "there is going to be some restructuring in the company, you'll see" (???) and that we need to move away from relying on experienced people for this one.Regarding the female colleague, she is a double Scorpio, so I hope that horary chart Venus moving into Scorpio won't hurt her too much. He is Sagittarius (around 16°), btw. I'm curious as to how this will unfold.
As mentioned the Moon is applying to Venus (3° orb) and to Mars (5° orb), in 3 and 5 time units I'll know more, I guess. I'll update the thread. Thanks a lot for your insight, Jessica.  IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted September 12, 2018 03:51 AM
No problem.I'm curious too, please do update this thread if and when something happens. IP: Logged |
HelixID
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posted September 17, 2018 11:51 AM
Jessicaaa!!!Today was a nightmare!
The female colleague I told you about earlier left the company today along with another colleague who had been in our team for years. It turned out there have been ongoing negotiations for the past four weeks with them to let them out of their contract and today they broke the news to the rest of us.
I'm in complete and utter disbelief!
The team is slowly but surely falling apart and I don't know how I'm going to handle this. This is the chart of the moment when she and the other colleague told us. Today was her last day.  Can you see how things are going to unfold and if there is any, even slight hope of the boss leaving?
Could this shake up things that much to make him or his supervisor resign?
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Jessica2407
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posted September 18, 2018 01:27 AM
sorry to hear that she was let go, an essentially dignified moon applying with a square to venus showed they will have an upper hand but I didn't think they will fire her, I guess they waited for the right moment, since venus just entered scorp when the square was perfected.So you are saying that the boss and the supervisor didn't know they will be let go? I'd say they both knew and were even a bit complicit.. IP: Logged |
HelixID
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posted September 18, 2018 08:45 AM
Essentially it was like this:She couldn't be fired just like that due to her position in the workers' council, so the bosses had to make her life miserable to make her quit on her own and that's what happened in the end.
Naturally, she didn't want to leave without proper compensation, so she negotiated with the bosses to sign an agreement that her contract would be cancelled on a mutual agreement. Those negotiations lasted for four weeks and yesterday was her last day. The thing is, due to her good reputation in the company her leaving ruffled a few feathers and people keep asking questions. I'm wondering if this could bring the bosses in a not so good situation and make one or both resign eventually due to pressure. IP: Logged |
Loveher
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posted September 18, 2018 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Had a quick look. I don't think he will quit and he def will not be fired.His sig is about to change sign into his domicile signifies something important is going to happen to him that might change his situation at your company or a new job offer.
So u answer here but moved my topic jusy because you didnt know what to stay thats stupid My topic shouldnt be moved IP: Logged |
HelixID
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posted September 19, 2018 12:51 AM
@Loveher
This is the Horary section.
For horary questions you can't just post any chart and expect people to give an horary interpretation of it.
You posted your natal chart/progressions in your topic, right?If you want an horary question answered you have to make a "natal chart" of the moment you asked a question.
Let's say you thought of your question and asked it on Sept 10 2018 at 11:40 am, then you would make a chart where you enter Sept 10 2018, time 11:30 am. That would be the birth chart of your question. The horary chart is not a chart about the characteristics of a person. It's about the circumstances of a particular situation, it's about the people who are involved in the situation, how they relate to each other and how the situation will unfold. It's important to know who the querent is (the person who asked the question) and to give a little bit background on the situation and the people involved so that the astrologer can identify them in your chart (planets) and to see how they are connected to the querent, how they see him and what everyone is up to. You have great threads in this section where knowledgeable people explain way better how to post horary charts than I did. Just try to think of the day and time when you asked yourself the question about your job and make a chart for that day and time. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted September 19, 2018 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by HelixID:
Essentially it was like this:She couldn't be fired just like that due to her position in the workers' council, so the bosses had to make her life miserable to make her quit on her own and that's what happened in the end.
Naturally, she didn't want to leave without proper compensation, so she negotiated with the bosses to sign an agreement that her contract would be cancelled on a mutual agreement. Those negotiations lasted for four weeks and yesterday was her last day. The thing is, due to her good reputation in the company her leaving ruffled a few feathers and people keep asking questions. I'm wondering if this could bring the bosses in a not so good situation and make one or both resign eventually due to pressure.
Ah ok. Don't forget that moon goes to oppose an ill received mars, there'll be lots of arguments causing disruption in the working environment. I still would say that your boss will not resign, his sig is essentially dignified. IP: Logged |
HelixID
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posted April 15, 2019 12:31 PM
Jessica, I hope you read this!So today something big happened.
I've written about the boss of my boss before, he is the head of our department (let's call him HO from now on) and my boss reports directly to the HO. My boss and the HO did their best to oust two of my favorite colleagues. That was my last update. Guess what?! Today the HO announced his departure from the company. He's leaving this week.
I was so shocked although I should have seen it coming. He was weird the past months. The HO was slacking more than before, barely came in either doing home office, calling in sick or taking days off spontaneously. Last week we had a peculiar talk. He basically wanted to know what it would take for me to leave the company. Not in the sense what kind of severance my current company would have to pay for me to leave but what kind of offer another company would have to make to make me leave my current job. He said he'll come back to me on that and that I can't tell anyone about our conversation. I suspected at this point that he was preparing to leave but, boy, I never expected it to happen so fast. He must have given his notice at least three months ago because this is how long you're still bound contractually once you resign in our company (we don't have such a thing as a two weeks notice).
He might have resigned in February though and is being released from his contract earlier now. I saw the five time units (Moon applying to Mars) in my horary chart. I asked the question in September, the HO got a new boss in February this year - a new boss he didn't like. There are five months between September 2018 and February 2019.
I know that this is also probably not how horary works but today's transiting Moon was conjunct the horary Mercury by less than one degree (HO made his announcement today). I found that interesting. Who knows what happens from now on but my boss and the HO always covered each other. I don't think my boss will do very well reporting to someone else in the future. I would love to hear your take on this matter, Jessica!
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