posted January 21, 2020 02:06 AM            

My question was, "is he with another girl?"

- Ascendant first house is Virgo & Descendent 7th house is Pisces.

- Venus is DIRECTLY conjunct the Descendant at the time of question, which in horary makes me wonder if this absolutely signifies YES(???) another woman is in the picture, interested in him, and he is prioritizing her or in a relationship with her?

- Moon only makes one aspect - square Neptune in the 7th, which makes me wonder if I am upset about him hiding the truth from me? Or am I emotionally upset about his confusion and lack of clarity?

I also get this part confused:

- CHIRON seems like the natural ruler of Virgo rising, and sometimes I will use this in horary. From this standpoint, it makes sense that I am in his house but in Aries because I am interested in him but also mad at him. If we use Chiron, then he is Neptune, strong in his natural ruler Pisces thinking only about himself in his own house, the 7th house. (This falls in line with his selfishness.)

- BUT if we use me as Mercury and him as Jupiter... I get very confused. We are all clusterf**ked in my 5th house of sex and romance along with Saturn (obstacles) and Pluto (dramaaaa, obsession) and the Sun (ego battles).

- Either way it seems like his significator has some aspect to Venus that makes me very uncomfortable if Venus represents another woman here. But his 5th house (5th house turned, my 11th house) is ruled by Cancer, the Moon...

Oh guys, I'm getting my brain all flustered with this one. I'm all turned around. Please help me!

Background: This is someone with whom I have a turbulent but strong love relationship with. I got very upset with him recently and ended things. We have smoldering sexual chemistry, which he was trying to reignite while he was also talking to other women. When I found out, I yelled at him and put a stop to everything between us. It was very painful for me. I cannot discern if he is upset.

This relationship has been driving me absolutely bananas now for months and I cannot seem to get my head straight because of it.

posted January 21, 2020 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
Intersting horary... because of Venus' significant presence in the chart, I think yes, because it really shows how she's a qualifier in your particular question, especially when any planets beside the main signifactors fall into the 7th house. The Moon's square to Venus (his turned 8th house) probably represents the details of the question, that you and him had a falling out over another woman. His fifth house (romance) is also ruled by Cancer. Venus in the 7th. Jupiter sextile to Venus (his exaltation) theres idealistic feelings between that dynamic for him, he's in favor for what Venus represents in his life (don't beat yourself up about it as "her" specifically, just what the planet represents for him... all people use people energetically. just because she's 'Venus' in this horary doesn't equal she's the goddess-incarnate IRL). I know in quincunx are not used horary, but that aspect is Awkward. Your next applying aspect is to sextile Mars, ruler of the 3rd and 8th, information and losses, (having already been visited by the Horary's moon) the sextile tells us the event (shift) will be integrated lightly, hardly noticeable, meaning without anything having "happened" to cause it, or perhaps that it involves (looking to) other men for yourself, aka moving on. Venus rules his 3rd and 8th House as well, placed in his turned first. I don't have the technical language for this, but although he's impressed, she represents 8th house matters as well for him, which is his losses too. Third party situations require losses (other peoples stuff), so yes. You're on your way to his 12th house, horary is warning you that you're entering a mental prison.

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Wow, that was incredible and thorough, thank you so much.

Mental prison sounds about right. I'm in awe of how you read that... Thank you for teaching me insights around interactions with the 8th house as well, I will keep those in mind for the future.