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Hikaru29
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posted February 16, 2021 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m unhappy with my guy over something he failed to do but I didn’t tell him because we’ve had a lot of arguments lately so I hesitate to start another fight, and I know if I confront him that’s what’s gonna happen. But the suppression is making me explode within and acting out in passive-aggressive ways + Mercury is currently retrograding. What should I do?

Our sigs are in square aspect which probably shows our recent disparity. Moon in fiery Aries but hidden in 12H indicates my suppressed anger, and it’s applying sextile to Venus. So I should talk to him?

Mercury ruler of my 3rd is retrograding, leaving Jupiter his 3L going towards Saturn his 4/5L. What does this mean?

Venus(him) is going towards Sun (which is his co-sig but also my 5th ruler). ??

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posted February 16, 2021 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 16, 2021 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the video!

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posted February 16, 2021 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that you should always be able to talk about things like this. It's hard to hear that someone isn't happy, and it's also hard to say it, when you love the other person (or even just like them).

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posted February 17, 2021 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You’re right...the thing is I don’t like to constantly complain. It also annoys me to have to bring up something more than once or twice max. I’d close the door if I see him as not being receptive to what I want and I’d pull away, but when I do that he’d insist on talking. However, he also gets defensive as well. I don’t know if it’s his issue or the way I communicate and I admit I can get overly sensitive.

Nonetheless, this is an issue I’m compelled to address.

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posted February 17, 2021 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try writing a full letter first; see what comes up when you attempt this, and take it from there, either giving it to him or verbally reiterate the topic that’s been carefully developed in mind

The voice recording section of my phone is filled with me talking to myself at issues/others. I quickly listen back and usually decide thereafter, but mostly I know it’s a need to be heard - which I offer myself. — Leo Chiron 3rd House

Where’s your Chiron? Does this have anything to do with what’s coming up for you in partnership? Is transiting Chiron in the 12th House from your natal placement, before its return?

At the very least, the effect of Ketu through your sign and your partner’s 1st House is plenty of energy to release

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posted February 17, 2021 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve repeated it so many times in my head it’s driving me crazy. He thought it was just some stupid things he said and we had cleared the air but there’re other issues that bug me. The reason why I haven’t brought up the other things is because he often says I over-read things and this exasperates me. tSouth Node is on my Moon now so I’ve been feeling the suffocation more than usual.

What partnership?

I’ve Chiron in 11H Aries. tChiron is coming up...on top of my Jupiter now.

I just casted another Horary asking if I should suggest a break. The chart is full of squares - our significators applying square, Moon square Mercury/Jupiter/Saturn. Seems like not a good approach?

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posted February 17, 2021 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. My old flame is also a Jyeshtha Ascendent. These guys are pretty secretive by nature, no? I’ve heard this overthinking line before lol

I’ve also been unhappy before with what the Jyeshtha Ascendent “failed to do”. Actually, I stopped talking to him for weeks because of that, but came around to the connection yesterday, which he replied to eventually.

Last night I connected to my heart space and cleared some of the ego webs, and this morning woke up to his reply. Sounds cliche but try meditating, your moon/ketu will thank you.

So, what kind of issues? Want to vent here?

I wouldn’t suggest a break outright, especially if you love this person, rather carve out your own space. Or guide yourself to mirror him, to the T, in the meantime.

::what partnership?::
I mean, does natal Chiron (your wound) have any resemblance with the issues bothering you in your relationship. Sometimes I find solace in just reminding myself about Chiron in general, since most life is a projection ( Māyā )

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posted February 17, 2021 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer not to over share on a public forum. Basically I sometimes wonder if he actually cares about me. Funny he has all the signs showing he loves me yet he also does things that make me feel otherwise. When I said that he looked confused and hurt. We’ve had breakups before. Each time we regretted it. I consulted an astrologer on my recent issue. He checked my natal transits and said he doesn’t see a breakup happening. Does that mean it won’t happen even if I initiate it?

Yes, Jyestha ASC, conjunct my Moon. In Tropical he has Moon conjunct Pluto. Secretive AF (even when there’s no reason to)... also sensitive even though he accuses me of being sensitive (lol) so we’re pot and kettle, both black.

I plan to pull back...waaayyy back. He’s sometimes slow in catching my warning signs, surprising for a Moon-Pluto individual.

I didn’t research on Chiron. What does it say about Aries Chiron in 11H? I know it talks about abandonment issue by friends. I remember an incident back in 2019 where I was betrayed by my friends and he did something hurtful that made me feel that he also betrayed me like my friends did.

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posted February 19, 2021 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you’re having your Chiron return, is a perfect time to begin research into your Chiron placement.

«With Chiron in Aries the wound is to your basic sense of self which may manifest in the following ways:

-Crippling self-doubt and lack of self-worth

-Feel you have no right to exist or assert yourself

-Feel that who you are is fundamentally unacceptable

-People pleaser and always put others first, or totally self-involved with your own problems

-Find it hard to stand up for yourself or ask for what you want.

-Self-sabotage, frustration and underlying rage

-Militant self-sufficiency masking fragile insecurity»

(You’re not alone)

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posted February 20, 2021 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 20, 2021 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 24, 2021 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@vansio
Self-worth may be the overarching struggle here. I used to be able to move on to new things quite fast but now I feel that I can't find happiness no matter what I do.

Anyway we managed to have the "talk". He was nice about it but I didn't like the answers he gave... so with no satisfactory resolution I suggested that we stop seeing each other. He kinda flipped out, said he felt confused and repeatedly asked if I'm sure this is what I want...I said I'm ok to still be his friend.

I got a feeling this isn't gonna be a smooth transit so I casted another chart asking if our relationship will end or continue. What do you see in this new chart?

Venus-Mars are in a separating square but Moon is applying trine to Sun and its last aspect will be sextile Mars(him).

Also Moon is strong in Cancer and Venus will soon enter its exaltation. Both representing me. His sigs (Sun/Mars), on the other hand, are exalting Moon/Venus. I see this as him still feeling strongly and holding on, which seems to be the case now. He said he would give me space to think about it but asked to meet me again today.

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posted February 24, 2021 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ll take a moment to think about the chart itself, Mars in your first is obvious, and Moon tells that your relationship can continue on a new uncharted ground 0° without instant effect, your breakup 8L in his 4H is very close to his heart, the moon-situation debilitates him in his 8H, not very strong to fight in the dark (overall confusion, held hostage, fundamental inaction, and pain), though I want to say

Because you love him, please meet him, and if it’s possible to be momentary referee, start off by apologizing for hard feelings from a misunderstanding, and go from there—which I hope includes even more listening on both parts, seems somewhat fair between you with this request to try again.

I’m glad he’s concerned. You have every right to request a break if your relationship needs are not being met (so long as you are able to define them and explain your capacity to return, conditionally), however, his reaction tells that he has enough emotional involvement to meet you [there], even if difference has gotten in the way before.

Although there’s only one day to prepare, an appointment after conflict is fertile ground to plant a new seed. Be the relationship you want to see the world, see if/how it resonates. Subconsciously, trust there be a valid reason for your need to shake up from a higher perspective, however, open communication is key, no matter how uncomfortable or trying.

Also, if you need MORE time before meeting (to prepare), say so. Keep asking for what you want. He should appreciate your consideration (of him) throughout your boundaries in partnership and can work with you about the “meaning” for this event, because it’s likely he’s feeling inept, yet he’s yours. You’re the leader/light of this current situation 10H, navigate wisely, Venus.

Being “friends” after a broken relationship isn’t realistic, I must add. Being “friends” within a romantic relationship, better.

With the Venus transit the way it is, forgiveness without judgement will be necessary.

Thanks for taking time to look into your Chiron placement. When it comes to relationships, it usually applies. Not surprised to read that you perhaps-unconsciously mentioned to him your wound [11H] about needing/wanting to heal friendship, for teamwork.


http://instagram.com/gottmaninstitute?igshid=9qxwhzbotk3x

A Couple’s Guide to Communication http://archive.org/details/couplesguidetoco00gott

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posted February 25, 2021 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@vansio
Thanks for taking time to read the chart and hearing me out.

We finally reached a resolution after 2 meetings and another fight. 🙁 Long story short I told him what he did/said that really hurt me and as a result my affection for him was gradually waning...to the point I don’t feel like meeting him anymore. I didn’t mince my words. He was initially defensive but later felt shaken and acknowledged/apologised for the emotional damage he has been inflicting on me. Anyway he also blamed himself for letting anger get the better of him and saying things he didn’t mean (which he realised were like slashes to my heart).

I do feel a change in him. I feel that he’s genuine this time. He doesn’t want a breakup (temporary or not) because he wants to show me he has changed. I don’t know how we will be like in the future...he seems sincere now but who knows he may go back to his old ways(?), I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️ ... but for now I think I’m gonna give a last shot.

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