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Lola90
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posted November 02, 2022 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone,

I watched bunch of youtube videos, went thru many topics here on the forum and I still have trouble to figure this one out (I am newbie).

Would you give me your perspective on this chart? My question was "will he return to me?"

Thank you so much in advance, can't wait to hear other opinions.


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Horary Fairy
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posted November 03, 2022 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Horary Fairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The answer is no. Moon is separating from a conjunction with Saturn and Venus is separating from a conjunction with the Sun. For it to be a yes they would have been applying. There is no Collection of Light or Translation of Light to bring you together either.

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Lola90
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posted November 03, 2022 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Horary Fairy:
The answer is no. Moon is separating from a conjunction with Saturn and Venus is separating from a conjunction with the Sun. For it to be a yes they would have been applying. There is no Collection of Light or Translation of Light to bring you together either.


Thank you so much!

Shouldn't it be first thing to watch Saturn (me) square Sun (him)?

And also, I've been reading that Horary answer is valid (let's call it like that) for 3 months, is that true?

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Lola90
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posted November 03, 2022 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For sake of practice, here I am looking at Jupiter (me) and Mercury (him). Since there are no aspects between these two, I am looking for significators, Moon and Venus, right? They are making trines, applying - so final answer would be yes?

There are also Venus Conjunction Mercury (applying) and Moon Trine Mercury (separating), but not sure how to incorporate that?


Or I am doing it completely wrong?

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posted November 03, 2022 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Horary Fairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lola90:

Thank you so much!

Shouldn't it be first thing to watch Saturn (me) square Sun (him)?

And also, I've been reading that Horary answer is valid (let's call it like that) for 3 months, is that true?


The Sun doesn't receive Saturn at all and Saturn receives the Sun in detriment (or you can say the Sun receives Saturn in detriment) either way this isn't good enough to show there is any interest between the two planets so any aspect is not likely to make a difference to the answer.

William Lilly never said a chart lasts three months. A chart lasts as long as it lasts depending on what was asked. If something drastically changes then you can ask another question.

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posted November 03, 2022 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Horary Fairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lola90:
For sake of practice, here I am looking at Jupiter (me) and Mercury (him). Since there are no aspects between these two, I am looking for significators, Moon and Venus, right? They are making trines, applying - so final answer would be yes?

There are also Venus Conjunction Mercury (applying) and Moon Trine Mercury (separating), but not sure how to incorporate that?


Or I am doing it completely wrong?


There is no point running chart after chart with the same question - the first chart has the answer. This one isn't showing anything different.

The Moon is your co-significator as is Venus.
Mercury doesn't receive Jupiter at all and Jupiter receives Mercury in detriment and fall (or Mercury receives Jupiter in detriment and fall depending on how you read receptions) either way this isn't good. Either it means you don't like him or he doesn't like you. Sun receives Venus in detriment and Moon in fall. He's not interested in you. Even though Mercury and Venus will meet by conjunction, it may not happen because there are no receptions between the planets showing any motivation to act. The Moon separating from the Sun and from Mercury show what's happened in the past - your separation.

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Lola90
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posted November 03, 2022 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, again!

It was completely different question I did for sake of practicing (I know that there is no point asking same thing every few days), but I guess luck isn't on my side at all these days...

Anyway, I appreciate your answer!

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Horary Fairy
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posted November 03, 2022 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Horary Fairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lola90:
Thank you so much, again!

It was completely different question I did for sake of practicing (I know that there is no point asking same thing every few days), but I guess luck isn't on my side at all these days...

Anyway, I appreciate your answer!


You're welcome. I've been doing horary for more than 25 years but the one thing I've learned is a chart isn't written in stone, it's just how things are at the time you asked the question if you do 'nothing' - that's how it will play out. Depending on the question asked, oftentimes you can change the outcome if you choose to but never make a decision solely on a chart, look at your situation and assess it then decide if that's how you want it to go. That is what your free will is, you have the ability to make a choice one way or the other. I wish you the best.

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