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Topic: Has this friendship run off its course?
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Panther_Order Newflake Posts: 9 From: Anywhere and nowhere Registered: Aug 2019
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posted May 21, 2023 11:29 AM
http://imgur.com/M1O6Qfy (This is when I've asked the question.)We've known each other for 3.5 years, but we had a gap of not talking to each other, when she retreated from social media back in April 2021, for reasons unrelated to our friendship. She sent me a message of reconnection in July 2022, stating I was the first true friend she's had and I'd match who she's becoming. I only saw that message in October 2022, due to my high school graduation exam and college admission. Anyway, initially it started off pretty well, but I felt numbness in two weeks time( we were talking once every 2-3 days), and she probably did as well. It felt like we didn't connect as much... but she always says how great of a friend I am, how perfect/adorable I am, and she said she loves me platonically about 2 times( The first time she was in a relationship, understandable, but the second? She tends to get crushes pretty often, but I am not sure if she has a crush) - and that "platonically" hurts me a lot even if I am not necessarily romantically attracted to her. (My feelings are very confusing, kind of like a love that can't grow, because like I said, I feel like we didn't connect, and that lack of connection makes me feel dreary). However, recently, I saw one of her posts which was clearly made a few days after I sent her a message. I tried justifying her actions, including now, but I can't really find a proper excuse anymore. Her actions don't match her words towards me, even if I do trust her when she says them( I don't know why, they're not fake in any way). Does she care about me... or is this friendship on the verge of ending? I'm Saturn in 2nd, she is the Moon loosely conjunct Saturn. We have lots of feelings and commitment for each other, and also highly value each other(2nd house) possibly even have romantic feelings(?) due to the trine of Venus. Speaking of Venus, Venus near the Ascendant indicates me vaguely seeing her in a romantic light and admiring who she is as a woman, but at the same time it might show a crush/love interest on her part...? However, I see Sun and Uranus being in the 4th house, as well as Mercury conjunct the IC. Her unexpected return(Uranus), as well as on-and-off dynamics, shocked me to the core.(Sun, along with 4th house). Her words(Mercury) touched me deeply too, and it almost felt inspirational(North Node). For the 11th house sign, I see Scorpio, with both its rulers opposing each other. I am afraid of this ending in a violent way, and it will create a powerful wound( Chiron in Aries, 3rd house) What do you think? I am in dire need of advice. P.S: I feel called out to put a second horary chart for the moment I am writing this, so if it's more accurate, you can interpret this one instead, and the question popping in my mind is "Did I disappoint her?" Here it is: http://imgur.com/HEFomp1 ------------------ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 172316 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2023 02:25 PM
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Panther_Order Newflake Posts: 9 From: Anywhere and nowhere Registered: Aug 2019
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posted May 21, 2023 02:32 PM
Thank you for the help, Randall!IP: Logged |
Horary Fairy Knowflake Posts: 131 From: London Registered: Sep 2021
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posted May 22, 2023 09:50 AM
From what you describe it doesn’t look to me as if she is an 11th house friend and as you have assigned her the 7th house you are looking at her as a partner.She is the Moon and Venus. The Moon exalts Venus – she thinks very highly of herself and receives Saturn in face – you are someone she will connect with if she has nothing better to do. Venus is ruled by the Moon – again she is only concerned with herself and receives Saturn in detriment – she isn’t keen on you. This is why you are feeling her words do not match her actions, she is not being honest with you. Venus in the 7th is her concern with herself not you. The Moon and Saturn have separated from a conjunction – you and her have parted company and being in the second house she may have given you some self-value of some kind. The Moon and the Sun are applying by sextile but this is a weak aspect and the Moon doesn’t receive the Sun so there is no motivation for her to come towards you. The Moon is applying to conjunct Neptune which could imply that she is deceitful or delusional. I’m sorry to say but I think whatever this relationship was it is over. With regard to the other chart, you are Mars, the Sun and the Moon, she is Venus. Venus receives the Moon in rulership and Mars in triplicity and fall. Whilst she has regard for you by receiving Mars in fall shows her disappointment in you. The Moon is applying to square Neptune so you need to be careful that you are not deluding yourself or being deceived. There are no aspects between your significators showing any coming together.
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Panther_Order Newflake Posts: 9 From: Anywhere and nowhere Registered: Aug 2019
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posted May 22, 2023 11:56 AM
Thank you for your reply.Honestly, I can imagine her doing that, and I was hoping it not to happen again, since I went through something similar with another person, and I retreated inside of me, but she missed me and wanted to talk to me. I feel like it's some sort of punishment. IP: Logged |
Horary Fairy Knowflake Posts: 131 From: London Registered: Sep 2021
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posted May 22, 2023 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Panther_Order: Thank you for your reply.Honestly, I can imagine her doing that, and I was hoping it not to happen again, since I went through something similar with another person, and I retreated inside of me, but she missed me and wanted to talk to me. I feel like it's some sort of punishment.
It's important to emphasise that in situations like these, it is not your fault and it is not a punishment. These choices to be deceitful are made by the other person, and their actions reflect on them, not on you. Blaming yourself is a common reaction, but it's crucial to remember that you are not responsible for their behaviour. By recognising that the other person's actions are a reflection of their choices, you can separate their behaviour from your own worth and value. You've experienced it twice now so if you stay aware of people (don't retreat) you hopefully will recognise this behaviour if it happens again. All the best to you. IP: Logged |
Panther_Order Newflake Posts: 9 From: Anywhere and nowhere Registered: Aug 2019
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posted May 22, 2023 02:23 PM
Now, I'm curious if she doesn't know she is deceiving me( entirely possible), or deliberately doing it. But I'm not sure if the horary can answer that.Anyway, thank you for the interpretation, very much appreciated. IP: Logged |
Horary Fairy Knowflake Posts: 131 From: London Registered: Sep 2021
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posted May 22, 2023 04:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Panther_Order: Now, I'm curious if she doesn't know she is deceiving me( entirely possible), or deliberately doing it. But I'm not sure if the horary can answer that.Anyway, thank you for the interpretation, very much appreciated.
Horary can tell you that unfortunately! In both charts the Moon is in contact with Neptune – confusion, deception, delusion etc. Apart from being a significator or co-significator, it is also the ruler of the chart/question showing nothing is as it seems. The chart can show if she is honest or not and here she is the Moon ruled by Pisces which is a mutable sign so wavering and adaptable, if she were honest she’d be in a fixed sign. The turned 3rd house (9th) is her communication ruled by Venus in a cardinal ‘quick’ sign – again not fixed so less likely to be honest. Pisces is a deceptive sign and can twist the truth to suit themselves. Venus is ruled by Cancer which makes her emotionally manipulative so she would think nothing of overwhelming you to get what she wants. The chances are she is going to be silent with both her significators in mute signs, whatever you want to know she is unlikely to express it and with Saturn also in a mute sign you aren’t going to say anything either. I'm sorry this is such a horrible reading but as I always say to my clients - don't ask a question if you don't really want to know the answer! I hope you'll be okay and can move on without too much pain. IP: Logged |
Panther_Order Newflake Posts: 9 From: Anywhere and nowhere Registered: Aug 2019
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posted May 22, 2023 05:28 PM
Once again, thank you so much for the interpretation.I only asked because it was not a comfortable silence, and I wanted to know what is going on, but I did feel bad goosebumps when I asked this. Probably the last question, can be taken as rhetorical - why me? There must be a reason for that. She said it's because she trusts me. But if she is really using me, what did she see in me and what can I offer her? From my perspective, I don't think I can give her something so valuable, that in her eyes it's worth obtaining in such a manner. I hope so too... I don't want to go through the same amount of time again... IP: Logged |
Horary Fairy Knowflake Posts: 131 From: London Registered: Sep 2021
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posted May 23, 2023 07:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Panther_Order: Once again, thank you so much for the interpretation.I only asked because it was not a comfortable silence, and I wanted to know what is going on, but I did feel bad goosebumps when I asked this. Probably the last question, can be taken as rhetorical - why me? There must be a reason for that. She said it's because she trusts me. But if she is really using me, what did she see in me and what can I offer her? From my perspective, I don't think I can give her something so valuable, that in her eyes it's worth obtaining in such a manner. I hope so too... I don't want to go through the same amount of time again...
Sometimes we will never know why certain people will choose to do these things to us. The best thing to do is not dwell on it and remember it's her and not you. IP: Logged |
Panther_Order Newflake Posts: 9 From: Anywhere and nowhere Registered: Aug 2019
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posted May 23, 2023 01:31 PM
Yeah, completely agree. Thank you once again for the reading.IP: Logged | |