posted January 26, 2016 12:00 AM            

This is my daughter's natal chart... I know it takes quite a trained eye to view the vedic chart in it's entirety, accurately taking into account all of the various aspect...

However, I cannot help but trying to see if her chart points to signs of her father not EVER getting it together and being in her life. (We split when she was 9 months and he rarely sees her)

Things that make me believe that this may be the case-
moon in the 9th house signifying mother takes place of father
ketu in 10th, detatchment from father
venus & saturn exalted and in own house in the 4th house showing strong and stable relationship with many lessons but also comforts from mother
sun is in an enemy sign

Let me know what you all see/think/ if I am coming to accurate conclusions

posted January 28, 2016 03:21 AM            

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Originally posted by missblyss:

This is my daughter's natal chart... I know it takes quite a trained eye to view the vedic chart in it's entirety, accurately taking into account all of the various aspect...

However, I cannot help but trying to see if her chart points to signs of her father not EVER getting it together and being in her life. (We split when she was 9 months and he rarely sees her)

Things that make me believe that this may be the case-
moon in the 9th house signifying mother takes place of father
ketu in 10th, detatchment from father
venus & saturn exalted and in own house in the 4th house showing strong and stable relationship with many lessons but also comforts from mother
sun is in an enemy sign

Let me know what you all see/think/ if I am coming to accurate conclusions

Many thanks my loves

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Sun & Mercury conjunction in the third = short distance travel? May represent short journeys to father's home since Sun represents the father.

posted January 28, 2016 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Sun & Mercury conjunction in the third = short distance travel? May represent short journeys to father's home since Sun represents the father.

Also I see an opposition between sun & moon ... Perhaps behavioral patterns of the mother & father are at a standoff in the psyche

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That could be! He lives 8 hours away in a different part of the state. He and I are certainly very different. He is an aspiring rapper and my interests are meditation and yogic philosophy.

Do you think that the conclusions I came to are correct?

You see, I'm at a point with my daughter where I am questioning what is really the best thing to do. She is now old enough to ask for "Daddy"... But he so often doesn't answer her calls, doesn't call back for days. Part of my questions whether I am even doing the right thing by keeping him alive in her psyche because he just lets her down.

posted January 28, 2016 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by missblyss:

That could be! He lives 8 hours away in a different part of the state. He and I are certainly very different. He is an aspiring rapper and my interests are meditation and yogic philosophy.

Do you think that the conclusions I came to are correct?

You see, I'm at a point with my daughter where I am questioning what is really the best thing to do. She is now old enough to ask for "Daddy"... But he so often doesn't answer her calls, doesn't call back for days. Part of my questions whether I am even doing the right thing by keeping him alive in her psyche because he just lets her down.

I wonder, if maybe, it isn't even worth pushing. I thought maybe her chart would indicate whether there would ever really be something between them.

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Ultimately you know what is best for your child ... You have raised her in the absence of her father and your husband.

I'm kind of surprised I don't see any prominent indication of this in her chart other than the third house?

I do see some rough aspects though and the Cancer rising conjunct Mars in the first house.

I also did some digging since I saw that your daughters moon lord aspects Jupiter which is sitting in the 12th and this supposedly indicates foreign travel or settlement.

posted February 01, 2016 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Namaste to you missblyss xx

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posted February 02, 2016 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Namaste to you missblyss xx

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posted March 02, 2016 01:25 AM            

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Originally posted by nikki01:
Taking this chart at face value, honestly it doesn't seem like she will have him present in her life. D12 should give more clues

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posted March 03, 2016 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by nikki01:
Red flags for me are, 9th lord placed in 12th getting aspect from rahu and saturn. 10th lord debilitated in 1st, ketu in 10th. What catches my attention is Saturn and and Venus in conjunction both aspecting 10th
Check the d12 look for the placement of 10th and 9th lord.

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posted March 03, 2016 09:08 PM            

I'm giving a try too...

For Cancer Ascendant, the Moon is the greatest functional benefic (Ascendant ruler) followed by Mars, and Saturn is the greatest malefic (its mooltrikon sign, Aquarius, rules the 8H) followed by Jupiter. You, the mother, are your daughter's foundation, her rock and play a very important role in shaping her personality. The Moon is strongly placed in the 9H in a friendly sign. The 9H is a Dharma/Trikona house, so you'll be a source of guidance, wisdom and spiritual growth for her. You'll teach her moral values and a sense of duty in life. The 9H is also the house of the father as a teacher figure (natural house of Jupiter) and the Moon (the mother) placed there shows the mother playing that role in one's life. If we check the 9th ruler, Jupiter, it's a functional malefic and it's placed in the 12H (house of losses), a configuration that indicates the absence of the father and the mother doing his "job". The 4H house (the house of the mother and childhood) is not in good shape. Despite its lord (Venus) is strongly placed in its mooltrikon sign (Libra), two functional malefics are sitting there (Saturn and Rahu) conjunct Venus, and other malefics (Ketu and Jupiter) are also aspecting that house. Saturn is strong there (exalted in Libra and placed in a Kendra) but it's not good to have strong functional malefic planets in the chart cause they are able to do more harm. Saturn represents the father as an authority, and that planet as the 8th lord placed in the 4th house with Rahu, shows sudden events damaging the presence of that figure in the home environment during the early years. The paternal absence is confirmed once more by malefic Saturn also aspecting the 10H (house of the father as an authoritative figure) with malefic Ketu (detachment) placed there. That bad influence in the 4H is even stronger in this chart because, excluding Jupiter, the degrees of all the functional malefic planets are within the 5 degree orb of the Most Effective Point of her chart (in her case, any benefic / malefic planet placed between 5-15 degrees of a sign will create strong impact). So, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are "hammering" her 4H/10H axis. Saturn also aspects her first house showing that the absence of the father affected her identity in some way. That malefic rules her 7H as well, suggesting she might have a tendency to go for partners older than her or who exhibit that paternal aura in intimate relationships, maybe to compensate what happened in her childhood. Afflicted Saturn as the 7th lord can create problems in terms of marriage (delay or breakup).

Mars in the sign of the Moon aspecting the 4H, shows the mother trying to be that disciplinarian force to fill the gaps left by the father. Mars is a functional benefic for this chart, and despite it's debilitated, it gets some strength by house placement (1H = trikona and kendra, Aries house). With a Cancer Mars placed in the house of her individuality aspecting the 4H, she might be protective towards you, the mother. Is she an athletic/energetic girl? That's a very common feature for women with that Mars placement. Mars in the 1H aspecting her 7H reinforces the tendency to get involved with authoritarian types of men. Venus in Libra in the 4H also shows the efforts of the mother to provide a pleasant, peaceful and comfortable home for the daughter maybe as a way to compensate the absence of the father. The Sun (karaka for the father) and the Moon aspect each other from opposite houses, showing once more the parents got separated, and the mother and the father in contrary sides in her life. The fact the Sun is placed in opposition to the 9H (house of the father as an educator), shows he walked away from such responsibility. The Sun is in 3:32 of Virgo, that is, in infant state of an enemy sign (weak), placed in an enemy house (Gemini). So it explains his bad performance as a parent. The sign and house in which the Sun is placed are both ruled by Mercury, so it represents someone who is smart, perfectionist, critical, very skilled in terms of communication and probably able to make a living of it cause the Sun's dispositor, Mercury, is exalted in Virgo, placed in its own house and not afflicted by malefics. The 3H is a Kama house (related to the fulfillment of desires), showing he has motivation and ambition to pursue what he wants but the achievement can take time and effort since the 3H is also an Upachaya house (house that brings obstacles but also growth over time). Those conditions of the Sun show a person still immature to play the fatherly role but the good conditions of the dispositor and also the house placement suggest he'll improve as time goes by.

The D9 (chart of spiritual core) and D12 (chart of parentage) also need to be checked to support the findings of D1.

posted March 04, 2016 01:15 AM            

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Originally posted by nikki01:
roseelima hit the nail on the head.
you are your daughters foundation, frankly you are all she needs if no one else has the decency to want to be apart of her life. you are a great mother to her.

@roseelima will you take a look at my chart please i need some constructive input from someone else, i dislike studying my own chart. i want solid criticism.
Saturn is transiting my 10th house so my head is all over the place with career, ready to publish a book as well. i will post on a new thread if i have your permission.

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posted March 04, 2016 09:38 AM            

You're welcome. I don't necessarily see your relationship with her as a bad one since your significator (her Moon) is in good condition. The malefic condition of the Moon's dispositor (Jupiter as a malefic in the 12H) and the bad shape of the 4H represent well all the pressure and difficulties the mother (you) are going through to supply her needs in the absence of the father. Saturn and Rahu are in Libra, therefore, controled by Venus and they also show clearly your obsession about making sacrifices and restrict your personal life to give her structure and boundaries as an expression of your love for her. I really hope she keeps valuing and recognizing all your efforts. Another thing is that planets and houses are not fully activated at birth: they mature at different ages. http://www.venoastrology.com/maturityplanetshouses.html
So the complete results will be seen overtime specially in their specifics dashas and/or their dispositors'.

Jupiter is a functional malefic in her chart cause its mooltrikon sign (Sagittarius) rules the malefic 6H. As that planet also rules the 9H and it's placed in the 12H it can give mixed results. The best placement for malefic planets is in Upachaya houses but having a malefic sitting in a dhusthana is better than in a benefic house (it smoothes its harm). In fact, the 9th lord in the 12H speaks for foreign travel/settlement and Jupiter being that planet in Punarvasu Nakshatra (which is also ruled by Jupiter) such thing could happen for higher education purposes in a creative field, for example. Jupiter is in the neutral sign of Gemini, ruled by Mercury, the same dispositor that controls the Sun, her father' significator. Mercury is exalted in Virgo (strong) in Chitra Nakshatra (a very creative and artistic one, ruled by Mars. That artistic nature shared between her and the father through Mercury, could represent a reconnection for them. She has Mars in the 1H in Ashlesha Nakshatra pada 2 (ruled by Mercury/Saturn): this gives a person a very clever and calculative nature so I don't think she would reject him (in case he tries a reapproximation) if that situation could benefit her in some way (which I don't see as something wrong).

I don't think she'll ever truly disconnect from you, 'cause you're playing a huge roll in her life and "shaping" her in a certain way but I also think that a relationship will tend to be restablished with the father later more probably in the Mercury mahadasha/antardasha cause it's the planet that links them.

posted March 04, 2016 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by nikki01:
roseelima hit the nail on the head.
you are your daughters foundation, frankly you are all she needs if no one else has the decency to want to be apart of her life. you are a great mother to her.

@roseelima will you take a look at my chart please i need some constructive input from someone else, i dislike studying my own chart. i want solid criticism.
Saturn is transiting my 10th house so my head is all over the place with career, ready to publish a book as well. i will post on a new thread if i have your permission.

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nikki01,

I'm not a professional astrologer, btw. But I like practicing a lot: that's how we improve ourselves. Yes, post your chart and I'll check it out during the weekend.

posted July 22, 2016 03:11 PM            

my daughter's father tried to take her without my consent on a visit (his 2nd visit with her since september 2015)