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Dhanush108
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posted February 25, 2016 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhanush108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello guys.

I am new to this forum. Since a few months I've been studying Vedic Astrology. Long way to go and in the meanwhile I ordered a reading from Kapiel Raaj (KRS).

I was astonished because he said I would definitely have a second marriage. But - on his website he says he stays away from telling you whether you will or not will marry.

Do people here have experiences with him? Both good and bad.

And - I am a Leo ascendant with Jupiter, Mars and Rahu in my 1st house. Saturn is Lord of the 7th house and placed in the second house. Venus and Ketu are conjunct in the 7th house. As I don't know my exact birth time he could only tell me that Venus and Saturn are conjunct in my Navamsha D9 chart and Rahu-Ketu exalted. I should have been married for the first time after the age of 36/37 he said.

He sees me in a relationship this year and a marriage in December 2017/February 2018.
But what will this marriage bring to me? And what does this Rahu-Ketu axis mean as its quite heavy stuff.

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posted February 26, 2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 27, 2016 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good having new Vedic practitioners here.

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roseelima16
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posted February 28, 2016 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Dhanush108

Saturn being the lord of the 7H in D1 delays marriage and Venus (karaka for marriage) conjunct Saturn in D9 reinforces the possibility of delay. Besides that you have Venus conjunct Ketu: this brings strong dissatisfaction regarding relationships and this conjunction happening in the 7H (house of legal bonds, including marriage), you'll tend to feel unhappy with your husband, no matter how hard he tries, you'll always feel there's something missing. Rahu brings obsession and Ketu, detachment, so those "planets" placed in the axis 1-7 will create conflict regarding what you want and what you think that you got. That configuration gives you "what I've got is never good enough" type of feeling. You have Rahu in the 1st and Rahu creates almost like an obsession in getting what you want. So there's a tendency to look for satisfaction somewhere else and jjump out of relationships when the dissatisfaction reaches a high level. So the risk of remarriage is there. Considering those things I described about Saturn as your 7th lord and Rahu-Ketu in the 1H/7H, if the marriage happens before the age of 35/36, it'll tend to break. After that age you already passed your Saturn return (reached maturity) and Rahu removes its eclipse, making easier for you to settle down. Rahu in the 1H fully aspects your 7H and Venus, so before that age it will damage marriage. Your 7th lord placed in the 2nd is not good for 2 reasons: 1) the 2nd house is a Maraka house (Maraka means death/misery) 2) the 2H is the 8th from the 7H, and the 8th house also represents death. Because of those assumptions, traditional Vedic astrologers consider that such configuration ruins the marriage. But it's important to say that for marriage analysis the D7 (Saptamsha chart) also needs to be checked together with the D1, D9 and Upapada Lagna.

Hope that helps.


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posted February 28, 2016 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhanush108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Hi, Dhanush108

Saturn being the lord of the 7H in D1 delays marriage and Venus (karaka for marriage) conjunct Saturn in D9 reinforces the possibility of delay. Besides that you have Venus conjunct Ketu: this brings strong dissatisfaction regarding relationships and this conjunction happening in the 7H (house of legal bonds, including marriage), you'll tend to feel unhappy with your husband, no matter how hard he tries, you'll always feel that's something missing. Rahu brings obsession and Ketu, detachment, so those "planets" placed in the axis 1-7 will create conflict regarding what you want and what you think that you got. That configuration gives you "what I've got is never good enough" type of feeling. You have Rahu in the 1st and Rahu creates almost like an obsession in getting what you want. So there's a tendency to look for satisfaction somewhere else and jjump out of relationships when the dissatisfaction reaches a high level. So the risk of remarriage is there. Considering those things I described about Saturn as your 7th lord and Rahu-Ketu in the 1H/7H, if the marriage happens before the age of 35/36, it'll tend to break. After that age you already passed your Saturn return (reached maturity) and Rahu removes its eclipse, making easier for you to settle down. Rahu in the 1H fully aspects your 7H and Venus, so before that age it will damage marriage. Your 7th lord placed in the 2nd is not good for 2 reasons: 1) the 2nd house is a Maraka house (Maraka means death/misery) 2) the 2H is the 8th from the 7H, and the 8th house also represents death. Because of those assumptions, traditional Vedic astrologers consider that such configuration ruins the marriage. But it's important to say that for marriage analysis the D7 (Saptamsha chart) also needs to be checked together with the D1, D9 and Upapada Lagna.

Hope that helps.



Hello thanks for you reply! So far, these are the things I could see. What about Rahu? From my point of view Rahu has this obsession but its in the nakshatra of Magha which to me - indicates that a person should create his own identity and don't escape to find happiness somewhere else. Only thing I know is Saturn is Conjunct Venus in my D9 chart. This also indicates that marriage should have happened after the age of 35. I don't know my exact time of birth.

But - what are the indicators for a second marriage in D9 and the Saptamsha chart?

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posted February 28, 2016 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dhanush108,

The evaluation of marriage in the divisional charts follows the same principles used for the D1: the 7H, its lord and Venus, because those are the house/karaka for marriage. The predominance of malefic influences can deny marriage but when you have positive and negative influences simultaneously, it allows you to marry but it breaks your marriage. There are a lot of combinations that indicate the possibility of a second marriage but all of them rely on what I said before: affliction of the 7H, its lord and Venus. Negative influences on them like bad dignity, combustion, aspects from functional malefics (remember that the functionality of the planets change from an ascendant to another), also aspects from Rahu/Ketu in bad dignity. There are softwares that calculate the aspects each planet gets in a very precise way. But here it is a tricky thing. Many astrologers use only the 7H to predict all marriages cause that's the house of legal contracts. But other astrologers use the 9H house to analyze a 2nd marriage and the 11H for a 3rd marriage. The "3 houses skip" (leading to the use of the 9H/11H for subsequent marriages) is based on the ancient indian tradition of marrying a man to the wife's sister in case of death/dishonor caused by the 1st spouse. Some others use directly the 11H to evaluate a 2nd marriage and more recently I saw even the mention of the 2H as appropriate to evaluate a 2nd marriage, so there's no consense about this topic as you can see. Shri KN Rao, one of the most renowned and accurate contemporary Vedic astrologers, recommends the use of the 9H/11H to evaluate 2nd/3rd marriages. So, considering that, if you have your 7H, 7th lord and Venus under benefic and malefic influences, a dual sign ruling your 7H (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius or Pisces) and a strong 9H those conditions could strongly indicate a 2nd marriage. But as I said, Parashara attributed scores to astrological conditions in order to make the analysis more objective and allow the astrologer to reach a conclusion. So what I've seen is the analysis of the conditions of the 7H, 9H, 11H and 2H, their lords and Venus mainly in D1, D7 and D9 to see if remarriage is a strong tendency. At first the charts are checked separately but then they see how the lords of those houses in each chart are placed in the others. There's a Vedic astrologer called Ernst Wilhelm and he explains a bit about the use and importance of those 3 charts in relationship matters and also describes the score system recommended by Parashara. He uses the tropical zodiac though, not the sidereal. He has a lot of informative videos. Take a peek:

http://youtu.be/96pU04dhwb4

http://youtu.be/VKiRRTmh2Kw

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Dhanush108
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posted February 29, 2016 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhanush108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Dhanush108,

The evaluation of marriage in the divisional charts follows the same principles used for the D1: the 7H, its lord and Venus, because those are the house/karaka for marriage. The predominance of malefic influences can deny marriage but when you have positive and negative influences simultaneously, it allows you to marry but it breaks your marriage. There are a lot of combinations that indicate the possibility of a second marriage but all of them rely on what I said before: affliction of the 7H, its lord and Venus. Negative influences on them like bad dignity, combustion, aspects from functional malefics (remember that the functionality of the planets change from an ascendant to another), also aspects from Rahu/Ketu in bad dignity. There are softwares that calculate the aspects each planet gets in a very precise way. But here it is a tricky thing. Many astrologers use only the 7H to predict all marriages cause that's the house of legal contracts. But other astrologers use the 9H house to analyze a 2nd marriage and the 11H for a 3rd marriage. The "3 houses skip" (leading to the use of the 9H/11H for subsequent marriages) is based on the ancient indian tradition of marrying a man to the wife's sister in case of death/dishonor caused by the 1st spouse. Some others use directly the 11H to evaluate a 2nd marriage and more recently I saw even the mention of the 2H as appropriate to evaluate a 2nd marriage, so there's no consense about this topic as you can see. Shri KN Rao, one of the most renowned and accurate contemporary Vedic astrologers, recommends the use of the 9H/11H to evaluate 2nd/3rd marriages. So, considering that, if you have your 7H, 7th lord and Venus under benefic and malefic influences, a dual sign ruling your 7H (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius or Pisces) and a strong 9H those conditions could strongly indicate a 2nd marriage. But as I said, Parashara attributed scores to astrological conditions in order to make the analysis more objective and allow the astrologer to reach a conclusion. So what I've seen is the analysis of the conditions of the 7H, 9H, 11H and 2H, their lords and Venus mainly in D1, D7 and D9 to see if remarriage is a strong tendency. At first the charts are checked separately but then they see how the lords of those houses in each chart are placed in the others. There's a Vedic astrologer called Ernst Wilhelm and he explains a bit about the use and importance of those 3 charts in relationship matters and also describes the score system recommended by Parashara. He uses the tropical zodiac though, not the sidereal. He has a lot of informative videos. Take a peek:

http://youtu.be/96pU04dhwb4

http://youtu.be/VKiRRTmh2Kw



Hello. Thank you. I will check them out and study the other charts for someone else. Also trying to be bring in our free will, as that is seen from the 1st, 5th and 9th houses and their Lord. I've read that 2nd marriage is seen from 7th, 9th and 3rd from 11th. But - astrologers use different houses to determine a second marriage. For me, it doesn't become a vast subject its just that there are different ways to predict events.

In Navamasha - I have a Venus-Saturn conjunction. What importance do you give to Retrograde planets? I've read some Vedic astrologers don't give importance to it at all.

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Dhanush108
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posted February 29, 2016 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhanush108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Welcome!

Thank you Randall! I have a long way to go but I am sure I'll learn from the people on the forum :-)

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posted March 01, 2016 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhanush108:

Hello. Thank you. I will check them out and study the other charts for someone else. Also trying to be bring in our free will, as that is seen from the 1st, 5th and 9th houses and their Lord. I've read that 2nd marriage is seen from 7th, 9th and 3rd from 11th. But - astrologers use different houses to determine a second marriage. For me, it doesn't become a vast subject its just that there are different ways to predict events.

In Navamasha - I have a Venus-Saturn conjunction. What importance do you give to Retrograde planets? I've read some Vedic astrologers don't give importance to it at all.


Yep, I agree with you. There are different systems of evaluation and we shouldn't judge one better/right when compared to another. I've seen some references that the use of the 9th lord to describe the nature of the 2nd husband has been found to be more accurate. I can certainly talk about my experience: my second husband is very well described by this house and my 1st one by the 7th.

Regarding the retrograde planets, traditional hindu astrology considers those planets are stronger and create more impact in our real lives. I have 3 planets in retrograde motion in my chart and I definitely can identify with that assumption. I found this article in my Favorites folder and I think it's very informative. It even talks about how retrograde planets can affect our health. http://www.komilla.com/lib-vakri-grahas.html
It's crazy that two of my retrograde planets rule areas in which I had chronic health issues.

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posted March 03, 2016 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhanush108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Yep, I agree with you. There are different systems of evaluation and we shouldn't judge one better/right when compared to another. I've seen some references that the use of the 9th lord to describe the nature of the 2nd husband has been found to be more accurate. I can certainly talk about my experience: my second husband is very well described by this house and my 1st one by the 7th.

Regarding the retrograde planets, traditional hindu astrology considers those planets are stronger and create more impact in our real lives. I have 3 planets in retrograde motion in my chart and I definitely can identify with that assumption. I found this article in my Favorites folder and I think it's very informative. It even talks about how retrograde planets can affect our health. http://www.komilla.com/lib-vakri-grahas.html
It's crazy that two of my retrograde planets rule areas in which I had chronic health issues.



Thank you for your article!
My chart says I should get married after 35/36 but I got married at the age of 26. I feel I had to pay off some karmic debts to my ex-husband. What role plays Jupiter in my chart as Jupiter is the Lord of the 8th house and a functional benefic to Leo ascendant.
I also see two yoga's in my chart. Jupiter conjunct Rahu - Guru chandal Yoga and Mars conjunct Rahu Aangarak yoga.

Ps. I have Mars, Jupiter and Saturn in Retrograde. The biggest lesson I have to learn are related to these planets/houses.

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