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missblyss
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posted March 05, 2016 03:20 PM
  
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nikki01
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posted March 07, 2016 12:03 AM
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missblyss
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posted March 12, 2016 10:46 PM
okay, here is a new chart that I am leaning towards...
my relationship with my mom is good. Not super emotionally close, but still very nice. She likes to talk a lot and mostly likes to bond with me through talking on the phone and shopping.
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nikki01
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posted March 14, 2016 07:55 AM
have you had your moon dasha already?IP: Logged |
anekksadh
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posted March 14, 2016 09:43 AM
if we take the cancer rising chart, your rising nakshatra is asleshasuch people can end up having bad influences on them, bad friend circles mostly during their growing up years, tendency to swallow food rather than chewing, maybe a gap a between front upper teeth or crooked front teeth or many problems in teeth, does that apply to you ?
you posted an aries rising chart, thats almost 4 hours before the gemini/cancer charts, seems like you have a wide window of possible birth times, makes it even more difficult
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Originally posted by missblyss:
I have had a rectification done and this has given me an entirely new Jyotish chart. I will include some life details, please give me your opinion as far as which chart you think would be mine!!Details-
My father is a very hard worker, also very wealthy.
I grew up in a wealthy town, but somewhat detached from material possessions.
I am VERY spiritually inclined, it is my TOP priority in life.
I am enamored with holistic medicine and natural healing.
I am a devotee, very religious, meditate daily
I experimented very heavily with drugs as a teenager, but now abstain completely
I follow the law
I was in jail for one week at the age of 20
I was married at 23 and divorced at 24
I am a very devoted mother, daughter sleeps with me every night in my arms CHART A
 CHART B
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missblyss
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posted March 14, 2016 10:34 PM
No that doesn't sound much like me. I had a small gap in my teeth before I got braces but don't have many problems with my teeth. Actually have very nice teeth. I wouldn't say I was surrounded by bad people either. For a brief time there were unsavory people in my circle of friends but I wasn't close with them. In fact, I seem to be surrounded by lots of great people. I do notice that there seems to be some divine protection around me because no matter what situation I get into I am never hurt, even when it goes against all odds. IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted March 16, 2016 02:27 PM
physically some things about me-I sometimes look reddish (too much heat)
very thick eyebrows
thick hair (especially compared to family)
blue eyes
healthy teeth
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anekksadh
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posted March 17, 2016 03:06 AM
as per the below description gemini ascendant makes sense, because ascendant nakshatra is aridra- the fierce form of rudra which creates thunderstorms and destruction
such natives usually have thick eyesbrows and dense hair or at times even wayward hair all over the place just like angry shiva,
albert einstein is a perfect example of aridra nakshatra risingwomen born with aridra rising or aridra moon usually suffer from menstruation issues as aridra nakshatra is symbolic of the earths menstruation cycle when the the old stuff is destroyed to make way for the new, the discarding of what is not needed through thunderstorms and lightning symbolic of aridra nakshatra aridra nakshatra also gives a proportionately large head or prominent head compared to the rest of the body quote:
Originally posted by missblyss:
physically some things about me-I sometimes look reddish (too much heat)
very thick eyebrows
thick hair (especially compared to family)
blue eyes
healthy teeth
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nikki01
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posted March 17, 2016 09:17 AM
from my experience moon in the 3rd creates a deep thinker (you also have kemdrum dosh) moon in this position one would feel lost in their thoughts sort of spaced out. distant relationship with mother absence of mother (moon 12th from 4th) .moon in the 4th is more grounded in their thoughts. you think more about home security and more focused on your home. IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted March 17, 2016 11:11 PM
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as per the below description gemini ascendant makes sense, because ascendant nakshatra is aridra- the fierce form of rudra which creates thunderstorms and destruction
such natives usually have thick eyesbrows and dense hair or at times even wayward hair all over the place just like angry shiva,
albert einstein is a perfect example of aridra nakshatra risingwomen born with aridra rising or aridra moon usually suffer from menstruation issues as aridra nakshatra is symbolic of the earths menstruation cycle when the the old stuff is destroyed to make way for the new, the discarding of what is not needed through thunderstorms and lightning symbolic of aridra nakshatra aridra nakshatra also gives a proportionately large head or prominent head compared to the rest of the body
mm that doesn't sound right either. I have actually thought my head was too small for my body! and my hair isn't "poofy" it's just slightly wavy and thick for someone with natural blonde hair. here let me go take a photo IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted March 17, 2016 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by nikki01:
from my experience moon in the 3rd creates a deep thinker (you also have kemdrum dosh) moon in this position one would feel lost in their thoughts sort of spaced out. distant relationship with mother absence of mother (moon 12th from 4th) .moon in the 4th is more grounded in their thoughts. you think more about home security and more focused on your home.
I am definitely a deep thinker. I am almost always in deep thought. My mom was a stay at home mother so definitely not absent at all IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted March 17, 2016 11:17 PM
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anekksadh
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posted March 18, 2016 02:56 AM
I still feel Gemini ascendant makes sense, aridra nakshatra is known to have a piercing intellect, the combination of rahu(nakshatra lord) and mercury( sign lord ) makes aridra nakshatra one of the most intelligent nakshatras of all, ever searching mind
If we see the western chart, your ascendant becomes cancer which is known to give a slightly bulbous skin texture with a lot of water element in the face of such a person which I can see from your picture, plus the pointed eyebrows which is symbolic of cancer/crab
Thick eye brows and dense hair texture is all associated with aridra nakshatra, all these observations are relative to your demographics, relative to people around u, I don’t expect every aridra rising to have hair like jimi hendrix
In this picture itself although u have lovely blonde hair, the hair do seem all over the place, they aren’t settled, that’s what aridra does, it unsettles things ,
When I say large head, I mean quite prominent in the personality, catching more attention than any other part of your body,
Lets discuss both charts a bit indepth
If we take Gemini ascendant then rahu/Saturn in the 8th house shows strong negative harsh spouses family influence on your marriage, significator of marriage(venus is exalted showing happiness from spouse), lord of 7th house Jupiter exalted in cancer shows a good spouse , in this chart since lord of 7th house is in 2nd house ( 8th from 7th ) it shows many partners over the years in your life as the partners(7th house ) go on regenerating (8th from 7th )
ruler of 6th(service) and 11th(6th from 6th ) mars is placed in 12th house giving 8th aspect to 7th house of marriage, did your job/vocation affect your marriage ? are you in a job/vocation connected to hospitals ? or some other 12th house activities ?
as per karaka bhava nashaya theory, if the significator of a house is positioned it its own house then it destroys the significations of that house
moon in 4th destroys relationship with mother, in the sense that although she might be physically present the relationship between you both will die
similarly sun in 9th house destroys relationship with father similarly as mentioned above,
If we take cancer ascendant then Saturn/rahu in the 7th house
Significator of marriage and 7th house- venus is exalted- shows happiness in marriage,
Lord of 7th house Saturn is exalted in 7th and conjunct rahu, both placed in the 7th house give directional strength to rahu and Saturn, both planets indicate west, so was your spouse coming from an area to the west of your birthplace ?
with exalted saturn in 7th house, also indicates a much older partner, was there a large age difference ?
the arudha pada of 7th house and upapada both fall in the 4th house, was your partner somehow known to or connected to your mother or introduced to you by your mother ? or from your ancestral hometown ? or u met him at some place connected to the 4th house significations ?upa pada shows the circumstances where u will find your partner/the description of your first marriage environment, pada of 7th house shows partners in general Saturn /rahu conjunction in the 7th house shows a diabolical partner or too much difficulty in marriage, the exaltation of Saturn will somehow reduce the negative effect but still since both planets are malefic they wont make marriage easy at all, interesting thing in this chart is venus- the significator of marriage is exalted which shows happiness from marriage but not sure about its dignity in navamsa chart, if its weak or debilitated there it can show eventual problems in marriage
When is see your picture again I get a feeling you have that hypnotic gaze of aslesha nakshatra and with that reddish flush It matches to western leo ascendant,
The western ascendant shows our first reaction to anything, me being libra- my first reaction is to see both sides of the story and take decisions to maintain peace, try thinking what is your first reaction to anything ? is it more of a sensitive /shy cancer nature or a bold/opinionated leo nature ?
Glancing at your picture again I can see that leo radiance/glow in your personality,
I am now feeling a strong inclination for aslesha nakshatra (western leo rising ), you have been to jail as u mentioned earlier in your teens for a week which is not a common thing, aslesha nakshatra is a very difficult energy to handle, on one end it can be extremely base and gross and find it difficult to control temptations and crossing boundaries and usually end up on the wrong side of the conventions of society, at the same time it can be the embodiment of great spiritual knowledge, snakes by the way are worshipped in india and there are festivals connected to snakes, feeding snakes milk is a common practice in many religious sects in india, snakes are said to be the keepers of sacred knowledge, but on the other extreme end can be quite hedonistic and pleasure seeking
Check out my description of aslesha nakshatra on another forum , this lady had her moon in aslesha nakshatra, see post # 84 on this link http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1453150626/80
In your first post u mentioned the word ‘I’ repeatedly and I feel u have to be a western leo rising to mention the word ‘I’ again and again, that makes u vedic cancer-aslesha rising
i conclude according to me you are an aslesha rising ( cancer ascendant vedic ) , western leo ascendant to add- u mentioned father is very wealthy,
venus exalted in 9th house of father, aspected by its dispositor - jupiter which itself is exalted in cancer, thats an extremely strong 9th house,
vedic astrology considers 9th house as father as father is considered the first guru in hindu philosophy, does your father travel a lot to foreign countries or associated with foreign lands ? Anekk quote:
Originally posted by missblyss:
the 3rd chart posted had purnarvasu as an ascendant, do you think I look like that? it is something in either gemini or cancer for sure![/b]
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anekksadh
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posted March 18, 2016 05:21 AM
i am surprised at this chartare u trying to say u arent sure which day u r born ? this chart shows venus in a different sign- aries as compared to the earlier charts which had venus in pisces or is this your western tropical chart ? because the different in planetary positions is around 23.3 degrees , i strongly feel u have posted your western tropical chart of the earlier gemini ascendant chart
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Originally posted by missblyss:
okay, here is a new chart that I am leaning towards...
my relationship with my mom is good. Not super emotionally close, but still very nice. She likes to talk a lot and mostly likes to bond with me through talking on the phone and shopping.
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missblyss
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posted March 18, 2016 10:56 AM
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i am surprised at this chartare u trying to say u arent sure which day u r born ? this chart shows venus in a different sign- aries as compared to the earlier charts which had venus in pisces or is this your western tropical chart ? because the different in planetary positions is around 23.3 degrees , i strongly feel u have posted your western tropical chart of the earlier gemini ascendant chart
this chart uses tropical rasis with sidereal nakshatras. it is based off of Ernst Willhelm's research and is thought to be most accurate. This chart is using the rectified time. "This chart calculator uses Tropical Rasis with Sidereal Nakshatras as per the research of Ernst Wilhelm. Ernst Wilhelm studied contradictory statements in old Sanskrit texts that revealed that the Ancient Vedic Astrologers between 0-600 AD had lost the knowledge of precession and as a result introduced errors into their astronomical calculations. Upon discovering this he spent two solid years testing every Vedic Astrology technique he knew (which are about five times more techniques than most of the best professional astrologers use in their day to day practice) and all of them tested out better with the calculations that this chart calculator uses." IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted March 18, 2016 11:03 AM
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anekksadh
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posted March 18, 2016 11:17 AM
i remember ernst telling me this when i had emailed him about the same question of using tropical signs with sidereal nakshatras
but i havent done the research he has done and i stick to the traditional vedic approach, in entire india you will not find a single traditional school teaching vedic astrology using this hybrid technique which he seems to have spotted,
interpreting the ancient texts is not easy, specially for a foreigner who learnt vedic astrology from western resources, but if he gets accurate results, then good for him quote:
Originally posted by missblyss:
this chart uses tropical rasis with sidereal nakshatras. it is based off of Ernst Willhelm's research and is thought to be most accurate. This chart is using the rectified time. "This chart calculator uses Tropical Rasis with Sidereal Nakshatras as per the research of Ernst Wilhelm. Ernst Wilhelm studied contradictory statements in old Sanskrit texts that revealed that the Ancient Vedic Astrologers between 0-600 AD had lost the knowledge of precession and as a result introduced errors into their astronomical calculations. Upon discovering this he spent two solid years testing every Vedic Astrology technique he knew (which are about five times more techniques than most of the best professional astrologers use in their day to day practice) and all of them tested out better with the calculations that this chart calculator uses."
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posted March 18, 2016 11:26 AM
yes i dint expect his travels to be for spiritual reasons, just general business related or work relatedlooking at your pictures with the emphasis on the hair it has to be a leo ascendant(western), cancer ascendant vedic, a leo ascendant can be willing to put up their picture on a public forum,
a cancer ascendant (western) is too shy to post self pics on a public forum, the crab likes to hide inside its burrow in the sand
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Originally posted by missblyss:
to be fair, that photo was taken after I had been out all day, exercising, out in the sun and wind without brushing it! here is when my hair is brushed;
my husband was actually younger than me by 2 years. The reason I was arrested was because I was trying to protect my husband. I knew he was doing something illegal and I cried and begged him not to do it but I feared for his life.. I could have actually gotten out of trouble but I refused to turn on him in court... my lawyers were very upset with me but I was very loyal to him...
Our marriage was so/so. In some ways he seemed to be very devoted to me, but I felt that he also was to drawn to the same negativities that got him arrested, so I chose not to put up with it anymore as he seemed that he was going down the wrong path. He was very tall (6'4), tan, and from a different ethnic background than me. His parents love me, not sure about the siblings, but I am closer with his own parents than he is even! My dad travels a lot. I suppose he does travel to other countries at least once or twice per year, but not for any spiritual reasons. My family is not spiritual at all, they do not practice any religion.
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missblyss
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posted March 18, 2016 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by anekksadh:
i remember ernst telling me this when i had emailed him about the same question of using tropical signs with sidereal nakshatras
but i havent done the research he has done and i stick to the traditional vedic approach, in entire india you will not find a single traditional school teaching vedic astrology using this hybrid technique which he seems to have spotted,
interpreting the ancient texts is not easy, specially for a foreigner who learnt vedic astrology from western resources, but if he gets accurate results, then good for him
yes I know it is quite unorthodox, but I am interested in seeing if the chart created by this belief makes sense. Do you think that I could look like a purnarvasu ascendant? The energy of that lagna connects with me mainly for the reason that it says there is a sort of lucky protection over the native, which I definitely have. I also have "fallen" into material consciousness, but never stay long and always revert back to my spirituality. IP: Logged |
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posted March 18, 2016 11:39 PM
Hey Missblyss, did you ever send that email about Ayurvedic studies (Instagram)?IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted March 19, 2016 03:09 PM
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Hey Missblyss, did you ever send that email about Ayurvedic studies (Instagram)?
no sorry hun I haven't yet, i don't go on IG much so I forget! IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted March 19, 2016 03:13 PM
I believe I am being misjudged. Yes, I am posting my photo on a public forum, but it is not because of Leo-esque confidence. For many, MANY years I would never have done such a thing. However, through my daily meditations and spirituality I have come to a place where I am ok doing so, I can put my energies out there and not let others opinions of me penetrate my consciousness (and if they do I use it to work on my own healing). I am actually very shy in person. I am simply posting the photos because I thought they would provide insight, I know there are a lot of clues in our physical forms!!Judgements, aside, I am curious to know what I physically appear to be, I was thinking the description of purnarvasu did seem to fit because I have "red" in the whites of my eyes, and I also have an "upturned nose" I don't know if there are other physical characteristics anyone knows of that would support that further? I can see the "aslesha" look in my eyes, but I don't feel that I look like the other descriptions IP: Logged |
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posted March 19, 2016 04:03 PM
What led you to do a chart rectification, missbliss? I think chart A looks beautiful and seems to fit you based on your self description and how you write. Do you prefer something different? Chart A looks chock-full of love.IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted March 19, 2016 04:19 PM
but it's not about having a beautiful chart! it's about having a chart that accurately represents your life thus far. It's not that my initial chart didn't resonate to some degree, but some things were not seeming to be on point.
it is said (by many prominent astrologers) that the actual physical birth time may not be the same as the soul birth (can vary a few hours- which can change the entire chart). A rectification is done to create a chart which accurately is able to fit in major life events such as marriages, deaths, and divorces that have happened already on definitive dates. char A was actually my rectified chart. Chart b is with my birth time off my birth certificate. which shows saturn conjunct rahu in the 7th house of marriage, yet I have been married... Astrology is much more vast than I even I can understand. It is something that only a fully self-realized person can truly comprehend. IP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted April 29, 2016 12:28 AM
hey can you please unquote my photos i want them to be removed thank u!IP: Logged | |
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