posted April 10, 2016 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by starxd:
That's a very sweet response, missbliss. However, I'm old enough and experienced enough to testify that it really isn't as simple as that. There are some really terrific people out there, who are not spiritually or emotionally deficient in any way, who wanted the love of a partner and ended up without it. I might not be one of those people. Or I may be, but it really can be soul-crushingly lonely. And yet there are so many years left. The only people I know who are okay with this aspect are those devoted to a spiritual order. Like an actual monk. Everyone else I know lived excruciatingly lonely lives.

Does anyone know of a positive anecdote (tthat does not entail taking the vows of a religious order)?

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Can you post your chart, Just dated a guy who has sun, venus and ketu conjunction. We didn't make it, he just seemed too critical of me and like he just didn't like me so I ended it. Either just a player or other reasons who knows. According to him, I'm the one with issues. I just think things were misunderstandings, bad timing, and trust stuff. Who knows? He did say he ended up with pisces type who he has kids by so it makes me think you may be just having a delayed marriage because of this.

posted April 11, 2016 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by starxd:
That's a very sweet response, missbliss. However, I'm old enough and experienced enough to testify that it really isn't as simple as that. There are some really terrific people out there, who are not spiritually or emotionally deficient in any way, who wanted the love of a partner and ended up without it. I might not be one of those people. Or I may be, but it really can be soul-crushingly lonely. And yet there are so many years left. The only people I know who are okay with this aspect are those devoted to a spiritual order. Like an actual monk. Everyone else I know lived excruciatingly lonely lives.

Does anyone know of a positive anecdote (tthat does not entail taking the vows of a religious order)?

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posted June 25, 2016 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by missblyss:
positive antidote could be meditating on ways that you may subconsciously reject love... I would start a daily meditation practice and really try to break into that heartspace and see what you can work through... Also, journaling about your experiences with love, your examples of love from your parents, what you want in a partner, and the type of partner you would like to be.

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posted July 04, 2016 06:46 PM            

The comment above where the girl said he was too critical so she left him is common. He had expectations of her that were probably unrealistic. Human romance is flawed and imperfect. It is not a perfect romance novel or film. Such love is not fit for the reality of this all too real world.

For a CHANCE at romantic happiness (there are no guarantees) The male with this conjunction must let go of his ideas of "the one". His idea that this perfect woman is walking the earth that is meant to be with him and lifts him up forever with her astounding love and inspires the same from him. This would be a goddess not a human. That is why he may be happier just going into religion and devoting himself to worship a god instead. He must learn that if a relationship seems to be lacking romance of a high degree that doesn't mean he hasn't found "the one" and tries to find someone else. He must learn that a relationship that is perfect on this earth would be far from perfect compared to the love one can get from God (or a great romance film). Only once he can accept this, can he finally be happy with the love of a human bond.

People often say you shouldn't settle... but these people who say this don't usually have Venus+Ketu so they can say it without messing themselves up. Men with this conjunction should instead tell themselves this "Settling IS acceptance of imperfection- and therefore it is love". Because in many ways it is. When you settle for someone who isn't perfect, you accept their flaws and imperfections and realize that- those flaws are PERFECT. The imperfect love is PERFECT. Then the conditions on love are lifted.

posted July 20, 2016 11:05 PM            

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Originally posted by starxd:
Does anyone know someone with this aspect who was not doomed to a lifetime of heartbreak, poverty and loneliness? It's my understanding that this aspect can mean a strong disinterest in relationships. Or awesome spiritual gifts, like that of Mother Teresa or Father Tutu. But only associated with Pisces or 12H. I'm spiritual, but I really wanted a partner and family life. This aspect has only been painful and lonely for me. Are there any stories that aren't all doom and gloom?

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posted January 15, 2017 07:51 PM            

Another pattern is to significantly evolve the relationship pattern from the first to second half of life because they realize after a string of attractive/loving partners that the feelings of dissatisfaction are coming from within them, and the problem is actually not the partner.

In all of them I've experienced, there's a closeness, then a distancing ON/OFF pattern that happens (what we'd normally call intimacy issues.) They get excited, then suddenly get apathetic, may try again, and the cycle repeats much to the distress of the partner. If they do not know anything about this configuration in astrology (and usually they don't) they will really feel broken relationship-wise but usually by the mid-40s, they have learned to "let go and let god" in terms of romantic expectations, etc. and just be in the now with no specific expectations for their love life.

There can be criticism of the partner or just a general on/off aloofness that is confusing and frustrating to the both to say the least, especially if they don't know what's going on.

I very much thought the same things about the guy I'm seeing now, (who also has Moon & Pluto conj Ketu - eeek!) and thought that he was being a total player, running around town etc. - I was really struggling trusting him - but I came to realize, he's actually a loner & chilling out on his own a lot. Venus/Ketu people typically don't like to go out a whole lot & party, shop, do frivolous things or accumulate a lot of goodies, etc. because Ketu kills the sense of enjoyment and satisfaction one would normally get from these Venusian type things. They may start out chasing a lot of these things in life but eventually renounce them as it just makes them feel empty. My guy had an alcohol/drug problem early in life - which I've heard can be common - which he kicked on his own and has been sober for 20+ years but...obviously, he's not into the party/going out/frivolous amusements scene.

Typically, Ketu or South node oriented people are also kind of "moody" especially with Moon and/or Venus here and will only really want to do stuff and connect "when they feel like it" which can be hard to plan and really last minute. They tend to operate a lot out of instinct and intuition and are not big "planners" which is another thing that can really irk the partner or other friends trying to coordinate with them. They will generally want or need to keep things very informal and loose b/c they never know when they're going to "feel" like it - which feels too uncertain for many other folks.

Venus/Ketu rythym can function well in an on/off pattern like - partner travels a lot, or long-distance relationship, etc. where you use the on-off qualify to your advantage. They will get the separation and then the excitement of reconnecting with the same partner over and over again.

Ketu type people may do well with Uranian/Aquarian or even Saturnian type partners who also need more space and are more aloof/independent as they will not be so hurt with all these ups and downs.

This configuration is meant to develop spiritual awareness and as mentioned above, adopting a spiritual practice is very helpful. Also, something like tantra is very helpful to explore. I do believe a relationship for Venus/Ketu folks is possible BUT, they have to come to terms with the fact they are always going to feel a bit ambivalent/detached around love matters and the things of Venus & need to realize it's NOT the partner. If they can learn to accept this and also foster a more spiritual practice/values/understanding with the partner, all these things can help quite a bit and they can be a good, loyal partner.

These people have an inborn understanding of all things Venus so they typically have good manners, good sense of taste/beauty, right and wrong around love, social mores, etc. and are not usually player/cheater types - again, you have to look at everything in the chart - but they have an inborn sense of love. It's just that sense of "satisfaction" of indulging in these things is somewhat cut off and hard to access in themselves.

As for finances, this guy makes great money. He has Sun conjunct Jupiter in 2nd house & Venus/Moon & Pluto all together. He has tons of it saved. BUT... he barely ever spends it and lives very simply. So...I don't think it means you can't have money. It's that Venus/Ketu doesn't really care about the more frivolous activities of Venus like spending/shopping/luxury purchasing type stuff that most folks - especially in Western Culture - many others tend to do recreationally. So, actually, you could have the ability to accumulate quite a lot depending on what else is in your chart. (Maybe you have a Venus/Saturn aspect also?)

Not everyone has planetary conjunctions with Ketu but everyone has Ketu showing up in some house of their chart. In this area of life, they feel ambivalent and dissatisfied with the results and it can be difficult to have stability in that area of life until you understand the Ketu energy and accept that you will always feel a bit that way in that one area. Once you ACCEPT and work with that energy, it opens up the ability to make that area work well in a long-term fashion.
There are some good YouTube videos on Venus/Ketu with Nadiya Shaw, Sam Geppi, KRS and some others.

Hope this helps! ;}

posted January 16, 2017 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by 8ofHearts:
Not sure how it operates in a female chart but I have seen this in a few guys I've dated (Both in their mid to late 40s.) A lot of them fell for someone karmic very early and that relationship busted but they are still attached to it in an on/off, long distance or fantasy type way even 15-20 years later. They may decide this was the one that got away and that's it for them in this lifetime.

Another pattern is to significantly evolve the relationship pattern from the first to second half of life because they realize after a string of attractive/loving partners that the feelings of dissatisfaction are coming from within them, and the problem is actually not the partner.

In all of them I've experienced, there's a closeness, then a distancing ON/OFF pattern that happens (what we'd normally call intimacy issues.) They get excited, then suddenly get apathetic, may try again, and the cycle repeats much to the distress of the partner. If they do not know anything about this configuration in astrology (and usually they don't) they will really feel broken relationship-wise but usually by the mid-40s, they have learned to "let go and let god" in terms of romantic expectations, etc. and just be in the now with no specific expectations for their love life.

There can be criticism of the partner or just a general on/off aloofness that is confusing and frustrating to the both to say the least, especially if they don't know what's going on.

I very much thought the same things about the guy I'm seeing now, (who also has Moon & Pluto conj Ketu - eeek!) and thought that he was being a total player, running around town etc. - I was really struggling trusting him - but I came to realize, he's actually a loner & chilling out on his own a lot. Venus/Ketu people typically don't like to go out a whole lot & party, shop, do frivolous things or accumulate a lot of goodies, etc. because Ketu kills the sense of enjoyment and satisfaction one would normally get from these Venusian type things. They may start out chasing a lot of these things in life but eventually renounce them as it just makes them feel empty. My guy had an alcohol/drug problem early in life - which I've heard can be common - which he kicked on his own and has been sober for 20+ years but...obviously, he's not into the party/going out/frivolous amusements scene.

Typically, Ketu or South node oriented people are also kind of "moody" especially with Moon and/or Venus here and will only really want to do stuff and connect "when they feel like it" which can be hard to plan and really last minute. They tend to operate a lot out of instinct and intuition and are not big "planners" which is another thing that can really irk the partner or other friends trying to coordinate with them. They will generally want or need to keep things very informal and loose b/c they never know when they're going to "feel" like it - which feels too uncertain for many other folks.

Venus/Ketu rythym can function well in an on/off pattern like - partner travels a lot, or long-distance relationship, etc. where you use the on-off qualify to your advantage. They will get the separation and then the excitement of reconnecting with the same partner over and over again.

Ketu type people may do well with Uranian/Aquarian or even Saturnian type partners who also need more space and are more aloof/independent as they will not be so hurt with all these ups and downs.

This configuration is meant to develop spiritual awareness and as mentioned above, adopting a spiritual practice is very helpful. Also, something like tantra is very helpful to explore. I do believe a relationship for Venus/Ketu folks is possible BUT, they have to come to terms with the fact they are always going to feel a bit ambivalent/detached around love matters and the things of Venus & need to realize it's NOT the partner. If they can learn to accept this and also foster a more spiritual practice/values/understanding with the partner, all these things can help quite a bit and they can be a good, loyal partner.

These people have an inborn understanding of all things Venus so they typically have good manners, good sense of taste/beauty, right and wrong around love, social mores, etc. and are not usually player/cheater types - again, you have to look at everything in the chart - but they have an inborn sense of love. It's just that sense of "satisfaction" of indulging in these things is somewhat cut off and hard to access in themselves.

As for finances, this guy makes great money. He has Sun conjunct Jupiter in 2nd house & Venus/Moon & Pluto all together. He has tons of it saved. BUT... he barely ever spends it and lives very simply. So...I don't think it means you can't have money. It's that Venus/Ketu doesn't really care about the more frivolous activities of Venus like spending/shopping/luxury purchasing type stuff that most folks - especially in Western Culture - many others tend to do recreationally. So, actually, you could have the ability to accumulate quite a lot depending on what else is in your chart. (Maybe you have a Venus/Saturn aspect also?)

Not everyone has planetary conjunctions with Ketu but everyone has Ketu showing up in some house of their chart. In this area of life, they feel ambivalent and dissatisfied with the results and it can be difficult to have stability in that area of life until you understand the Ketu energy and accept that you will always feel a bit that way in that one area. Once you ACCEPT and work with that energy, it opens up the ability to make that area work well in a long-term fashion.
There are some good YouTube videos on Venus/Ketu with Nadiya Shaw, Sam Geppi, KRS and some others.

Hope this helps! ;}

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posted July 17, 2017 03:11 PM            

I wouldn't say I'm disinterested, but I definitely don't go looking for it, and the older I've gotten, I can kind of sense who will waste my time and who won't...so that is also accurate.

The only guy I ever really found myself attracted to who actually felt the same way ended up hurting me pretty bad. He was definitely my soul mate, and I still can't imagine myself with anyone else, and it is true the only thing that has kept me from insanity has been to develop spiritually, which in turn has isolated me from my family and friends (I get along with most people because I know how to, but I don't really have much in common with anyone around me at work, or school).

posted August 02, 2017 09:43 PM            

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Originally posted by PangolinParty:
Bump... I also have Venus conjunct Ketu in my chart and have been incredibly unlucky with love.

I wouldn't say I'm disinterested, but I definitely don't go looking for it, and the older I've gotten, I can kind of sense who will waste my time and who won't...so that is also accurate.

The only guy I ever really found myself attracted to who actually felt the same way ended up hurting me pretty bad. He was definitely my soul mate, and I still can't imagine myself with anyone else, and it is true the only thing that has kept me from insanity has been to develop spiritually, which in turn has isolated me from my family and friends (I get along with most people because I know how to, but I don't really have much in common with anyone around me at work, or school).

He was also spiritual and I miss having somebody to be spiritual with. It sucks.

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I can only speak from my perspective as having attracted a few guys with this aspect. I don't have it in my chart so I can't say exactly how it feels to you or if operates differently in males vs. females. I have had something slightly similar in that my ex's Venus conjuncted my Saturn/South node and my experience with the South Nodes is that it is very compelling but ultimately, it tends to be separative.

It was immediate deja vu of the eerie kind and he definitely sensed and comforted me better than anyone. However, it was like a security blanket that my higher self was telling me I needed to walk away from. VERY difficult to do. I also noticed that he was induldgent of me in all the wrong ways - stuff that was actually not good for me - so...in a real way, I didn't trust his judgement - at least with regard to me. I often felt like he wasn't able to "look out for me" in the crucial ways that I needed in this lifetime so. Over time, love feeling on both sides turned to a weird boredom/apathy so I have some vague sense of what folks describe.

Someone with one or more love planets conjunct Ketu is going to feel really compelled by someone who hooks into their South node planet or stellium but by virtue of it being the South node -it is a relationship they might be destined to lose. I'm sure it totally depends based on all the synastry. Connections to Saturn, north nodes, angles and also the condition of the composite will determine the outcome.