posted April 16, 2019 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Does Vedic use fixed stars?

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posted April 17, 2019 09:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Does Vedic use fixed stars?

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yeah, but not in the same way that a western astrologer uses them where the orbs matter a lot and larger orbs are discounted (similar to, but different than the way planets in the same house are read as conjunctions rather than there being a 10 degree orb tops) instead of there being a 2 degree orb each nakshatra (lunar mansion) is influenced by a fixed star

for example magha is ruled by regulus, all of magha is influenced by regulus rather than just the couple of degrees that regulus is on (though some vedic astrologers will make the distinction and consider more direct contact as more meaningful, it all depends on how blended their techniques are with western), and all of chitra is ruled by spica even though some of it falls into virgo

the stars set a tone for the nakshatra and their more fatalistic meaning that comes from conjunctions with planets and angles is dulled

edit: btw when i'm talking about the rulership of the fixed stars over a nakshatra i'm not saying it replaces the planetary rulers (or in the case of some nakshatras ketu or rahu rulership) of the nakshatra or the individual padas

@MoonMystic

i don't quite understand what you're asking because a typical vedic chart (using mine as an example)

doesn't have an ic or an mc or a descendant even, the 4th house as a whole represents the home and the 10th house as a whole represents the career and the houses impact each other in a manner similar to angles with degree not being relevant (unless again you have an astrologer who uses a blended technique, personally i have a preference for blended systems myself and sidereal placements) outside of the ascendant

the nakshatra uttara bhadrapada being where your ic falls (4th house is pisces then? because you want whole sign houses for this) would just be read as a pisces 4th house

if you wanted to get into a fixed star falling exactly on your ic then you would look up the meaning of fixed stars and apply them to the angles in a more western manner since nakshatra doesn't work

it sounds like you're using a sidereal western style chart and blending the systems in a way that isn't cohesive (and there are ways to make it work,but there's a lot of trial and error involved to see what works and what doesn't)

i'll be honest i haven't explored nakshatras for their relevance to angles outside of the ascendant to a huge deal (where they do matter) but my moon nakshatra (most relevant nakshatra, when people ask what your nakshatra is they want to know your moon since this represents you in vedic more than any other point outside of the ascendant which sets the tone for your life) and my north node nakshatra are my "descendant nakshatra" and just reflecting on that i'm not seeing a point in using a nakshatra to describe my describe my descendant

in a case like yours where a fixed star is exactly on your ic i'd just apply the hellenistic or western terms

the two systems can definitely work together well, but it's all a matter of application

for example: i've found giving orbs that would count in western more relevance over orbs that wouldn't works best for planets sharing a house, however to say that a planet in a house with another regardless of orb influences things is also true

just like an opposition from one planet to another that's off degree is also influential even if the orbs aren't right

posted April 17, 2019 09:17 PM            

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in a case like yours where a fixed star is exactly on your ic i'd just apply the hellenistic or western terms

the two systems can definitely work together well, but it's all a matter of application

for example: i've found giving orbs that would count in western more relevance over orbs that wouldn't works best for planets sharing a house, however to say that a planet in a house with another regardless of orb influences things is also true

just like an opposition from one planet to another that's off degree is also influential even if the orbs aren't right

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posted April 17, 2019 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Dumuzi wrote: At astrodienst I don't get the same style of chart. I know Astrolada.com offers a simple one format. I can't play with other features but with your helpful reply, I will try the Hellenistic version. I'll look for that.
Thank you!

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np, if you want it to reflect your vedic as close as possible from astrodienst then i'd suggest turning off outer planets, putting it in sidereal, and making it whole sign

the problem with making it on a western chart calculator is you miss out on the d9 and d10 charts which have a lot of additional information on them

but yeah fixed stars i'd just read separate from vedic, but i wouldn't ignore the vedic chart entirely

it's a solid system

posted May 24, 2019 01:30 PM            

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np, if you want it to reflect your vedic as close as possible from astrodienst then i'd suggest turning off outer planets, putting it in sidereal, and making it whole sign

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posted May 25, 2019 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Dumuzi wrote:
Dumuzi, I'll need to figure out how to turn off outter planets. Ibassume that is Uranus, Pluto and Neptune? But I was thinking, could I learn my closer results of my Vedic natural
Planets thru the app I have (which I'm a newbie to), Stellarium? There are many options and It is geared less toward people who wish to look in a more antiquity fashion as well.
Btw thank you for your guidance.

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yeah uranus, neptune, and pluto are the ones you turn off

i never use stellarium so i can't really give you any tips for it, but anything with a sidereal option will show you what you're looking for

@Randall