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Topic: Give Your Child Hope!
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 28, 2001 10:24 AM
 
How many dreams were crushed by an "realistic" parent or by an insensitive teacher? Tell your children that they can be anything they want to be, and MEAN it! If you don't beLIeVE in your child, who will? And how can they ever beLIeVE in themselves, if their parents don't? How can the world have Martin Luther King, Jr's and astronauts and presidents, if we dry up the supply of greatness by teaching our children to have low expectations, easy goals, and no dreams?  ------------------
Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round? Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines. Chris Angelino IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 28, 2001 09:47 PM
Albert Einstein was asked to drop out of high school by one of his teachers. His teacher told him, "You will never amount to anything."Orville Wright was expelled from the sixth grade. Lucille Ball was an aspiring actrees when the head of a drama school advised her to "try another profesion. ANY other." Thomas Edison was told by several of his teachers that he was too stupid to learn anything. Beethoven had a music teacher who described him as "hopeless." Michael Jordan was beat out for North Carolina High School Player of the Year. His teachers told him to go into math, "where the money is."  ------------------
Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round? Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines. Chris Angelino IP: Logged |
gooberlily
Knowflake Posts: 2296
From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 28, 2001 11:56 PM
Randall, you're absolutely right. One of the most unfair things to do to a child is to squash their dreams, and make them believe easy goals are all they could ever reach for. I can't count how many times I've heard "But Elizabeth, we live in the real world. You get a 9-5 job, make money to pay your bills, and then you die." And yes, that is a direct quote  I make sure I tell my daughter on a regular basis, that she can be whatever she dreams of being...and I mean it. It's not some empty reassurance that I'll retract once she hits voting age. One thing I'll never forget was when I was looking for a job when my daughter was a baby, but I wasn't having much luck. My uncle arranged for me to meet one of his golfing buddies who had a real estate office in my area and was looking to employ a secretary. I met this mean old man for lunch, and when he asked me what I wanted to do with my life, I responded truthfully, "I want to be a musician. I want to be a writer. I want to be an artist. I want to help people in whatever way I can." The mean old man sighed, folded his hands on the table, and said to me in a very disapproving and serious tone, "Those are dreams. They're not reality." I mean, who peed in his oatmeal that morning?! Nobody should ever be told, especially a young child, that dreams are not attainable...just some sort of fantasy in a world where you need to buckle down and toe the line just like everyone else. Cinderella didn't lie when she sang in the Disney movie, "A dream is a wish your heart makes......no matter how your heart is grieving, if you keep on believing, the dream that you wish will come true." IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 29, 2001 12:20 AM
Liz, you are truly a wondrous Soul, and your words bring Healing! Your little Elf is very lucky to have a mother like you.  "The Great Spirit doesn't smile on those who dampen others and take the stars out of happy eyes." WHITE EAGLE ------------------
Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round? Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines. Chris Angelino IP: Logged |
gooberlily
Knowflake Posts: 2296
From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 29, 2001 09:28 PM
Thank you Randall.  I believe, I believe in every word that I write. It couldn't be any other way. IP: Logged |
TheNiceGuyWithBadKarma
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Registered: Jan 2001
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posted February 04, 2001 01:06 PM
AllI was just told by my dad today that I should hold out yet again for a better job.. The job I am waitng to hear from this week is what I want to do. Some people just like to deflate your dreams.. Thats what good parents are for I guess... IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted February 04, 2001 01:17 PM
When you're a parent, stop the cycle! ------------------
Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round? Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines. Chris Angelino IP: Logged |
gooberlily
Knowflake Posts: 2296
From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted February 04, 2001 08:19 PM
That is very important Randall. I made a vow in my own life, it would end with me.  IP: Logged |
endaphia
Knowflake Posts: 285
From: orillia ON CA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted August 04, 2001 11:27 PM
Statistically, 80% of people who say that they won't do what their parents did, fall into the same vicious cycle.I'm not ready for a child, yet. But I figure I'll know when I am. And anyone can beat statistics. I didn't put them there to take away hope. I put it there to remind you to work hard, to attain the reality you believe should be. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted August 05, 2001 11:51 AM
EXPECT A MIRACLE.  ------------------
Remember, love can conquer the influence of the planets....
It can even eliminate karma." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted August 05, 2001 12:49 PM
I don't think parents decide or wish to be *viscious* - and it's the fortunate child that just *knows* there is a better/different way and can raise her/his child differently...Interesting tho, I see children that come from parents that did offer them every encouragement and opportunity to express and develop their talents that do the opposite with their own children I count myself very Blessed that I knew to cater to my children's desire to try this, that, and anything they were interested in, and I'm quite certain they will do he same when they have children (because they tell me, "I want to be a parent like you and Dad were/are." ) Ironic, and sad too, is that it's in the parents mind they are *saving* the child from *unneccessary* hardship/heartache when they discourage their child from his/her dreams  Bottom line is, our children have the need and the right to pursue, succeed or fail or *whatever* and as parents we need to support them as much as we can - but be there to help them up with they may stumble ~Princess ------------------
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
"What is essential is invisible to the eye," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember. ~Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince IP: Logged |
chandra
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From: oregon
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted August 05, 2001 09:41 PM
I believe that people who try to put a damper on other's expectations like this, in most cases, are just trying to compensate for their own inadequacy. (with the exception of those who honestly think that one should do something "practical" so they will always be able to support themselves. But even this is being narrowminded and trying to place a lable on another human being).
From what I've observed, when a child has supportive parents, they are very confident, and even it other people try to tell them they can't do this or that, they still have the confidence that was instilled by their parents. Parents who except their children for who they really are and love their children are truely a blessing. They are beautiful people!
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chronicprincess
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Registered: May 2001
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posted August 07, 2001 12:33 AM
I would agree to some degree Chandra, and totally relate to and understand what you are saying, but what parent/person does not have inadequacies? Surely and sadly what you describe does exist between parent and child, but perhaps it lives more within *peer groups* - it would be great if it didn't exist at all My children had the most loving set of Grandparents one could hope/wish/pray for, and were right next to my husband and I supporting our children's desires to express or learn *whatever* - although I never did, they still would encourage my sons to remain *practical* in their choices regarding careers to financially support themsElves ... My point is, I am certain their expressions were not born in any sense of inadequacy in their personal life, rather wishing (right or wrongly) to prevent heartache and disappointments for people they Loved to Stars and back It's why they call it *tough Love* to let a child make their own mistakes ... because it is extremely hard, and heart-wrentching, and as this topic implies, sometimes impossible, to see or feel your own child's suffering ~Princess ------------------
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
"What is essential is invisible to the eye," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember. ~Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince IP: Logged |
chandra
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From: oregon
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted August 07, 2001 04:10 AM
HI PRINCESS,
I do agree with you too that most people who urge a child to learn a "practical career" do so because they want the child to be able to support themselves well, and in their thinking, money will make the child happier and more secure, and money is important. But they still should try and see that the child will really be happy doing what is their true calling. But, in this world, when one truely loves, that is important, even if they make mistakes.
By the way, please don't be upset by me. I speak my mind on things I feel strongly about, especially when I have seen children hurt. I can't help it, it's my personality. I have no ill feelings when I do this. I just see a truth, and I blert it out. I don't think I'll ever be able to change this. Mabye I don't really want to. As it's usually when I have seen an example of the thing I am ranting about, this is why I get emotional about these things sometimes.
Anyway, I have seen a child put through this, and it upsets me. A man I know is very intelligent and totally into science. He knows all about the Mandlebrot Fractal and all that good stuff. Well, I commend him for being intelligent, but I feel so sorry for his little boy. He won't let him read any books at all that are fiction. Everything has to be educational. No art, No childrens books, No TV, not anything that is not educational. He wants the child to be just like him (into science and mathmatics) and he dosen't even care about what the boy might be interested in. Stop me if I'm wrong, but isn't it important to have imagination too. Being an artistic person, I just can't imagine living this way.
The poor little boy; out of all the times I've seen him, I've never once seen him smile .
It makes me so sad inside. I just want to rescue him and tell him it's ok to be and feel anything he wants to.
Love,
 Chandra IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
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Registered: May 2001
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posted August 07, 2001 01:35 PM
Chandra ~No way could I be upset with such an empathic Angel as yoursElf! I do feel your pain in your posts, and I am clear that your words come from your sweet heart and personal experience What you describe for your friend's son is *over the top* and your friend is a great example of a *control freak* ! ...sorry, but that's what it spells for me But, in this *age* of enLightenment don't worry too much for the child, Chandra, I have a feeling this child will, before it's over, be able to change his scientist father's *view* on Nature  ... His father's persistence in the endeavor to control what the child thinks is only going to make him that much more spiritually oriented, I felt this as I read your post  Like Love and Hate, as you know, there is a very fine line between *realities* and theirs will eventually vanish  And hey, I don't see any uniVersal law here that says you can't send this child all your kNowings via the ethers Love to you, sweetness ~Princess ------------------
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
"What is essential is invisible to the eye," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember. ~Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted August 09, 2001 01:35 AM
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Remember, love can conquer the influence of the planets....
It can even eliminate karma." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
chandra
Knowflake Posts: 583
From: oregon
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted August 11, 2001 06:33 PM
PRINCESS,
I do hope you're right. If you're intuition tells you this, then mabye it is true. This does make me feel better. I guess if the child was truely like his father, he wouldn't seem so sad, so mabye he will rebel when he gets older. Hey, mabye he will even get into music or the arts and be that much more intent on living his dream! And also, everything happens for a reason. Mabye with his scientific background, he will also find spirituality and be an enlightened scientist!
THANKS!
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Randall
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posted August 12, 2001 02:12 AM
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Remember, love can conquer the influence of the planets....
It can even eliminate karma." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 09, 2002 08:55 AM
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"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot IP: Logged | |
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