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Topic: Recognizing the earthly self as well as the spiritual self.
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NosiS
Knowflake Posts: 84
From: Miami, FL, USA
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted April 02, 2005 06:30 PM
 
26taurus, thank you!Your words struck my inner ear with such a harmony that it shocked me to realize that I was reading them. I swear I read your post and I could hear your voice as you thought it...or was it mine?  Thank you, profoundly. ------------------
"For it is only the finite that has wrought and suffered; the infinite lies stretched in smiling repose." -Ralph Waldo Emerson IP: Logged |
26taurus
Moderator Posts: 7299
From: the stars
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 02, 2005 10:21 PM
LOL, youre welcome.  And thank you.IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 21114
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 03, 2005 12:27 PM
Good stuff.  ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Saturn's Child
Knowflake Posts: 148
From: Just left of center
Registered: May 2004
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posted April 03, 2005 02:07 PM
Oh yes! I can truly relate! When I was a child I would climb into my treehouse and dayream....pretend to be a fairy, a wood nymph, or a pixie. The physical body felt so odd to me, cumbersome, heavy, and unnecessary. My wise Cappy mom enrolled me in a dance class. As I learned to dance ballet and jazz, I thought, "Ahh, so this is what a body is for."
As an adult, I've had great difficulty with "practical" things...jobs...houses, etc. Growing older, and perhaps wiser, I may have become more "grounded". But I hope I always can have only one foot in this illusionary plane of the mundane and the other blissfully in the real spiritual plane.Blessings IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
Knowflake Posts: 519
From:
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 13, 2005 03:30 AM
The conflict between the material and spiritual is a struggle that I feel all too well. The beginning of a spiritual journey can truly be the most difficult, as one slowly grasps the constraints and pains of the physical body, the spiritual seems all the more appealing, but we cannot simply leave our bodies, we are here to learn.When I first became aware of my spirituality, I would meditate for hours on end, I would smoke weed and take walks in nature to enhance the spiritual experience. Yet I began to deny my physical self, I began to see it as inferior and useless. I think about a year after this is when the panic attacks began. Panic attacks may have a biological or genetic basis, and as a scientist I view them as that, but as a spiritualist, I view panic attacks, and many other disorders, as an imbalance between the spiritual and the material. The spiritual world fuels and rests behind the material world, but we are bound to the material world, and we must accept and embrace its bounty. Sometimes I take great joy and hope in the notion that I will someday die. I know this is very macabre, but the toils and pains of everyday life can make one, quite weary. The panic is a symptom, a symptom of spiritual/physical imbalance. We must embrace both sides and attempt to balance them as much we possibly can. You all know how unreal the world can seem sometime, and how frightening that feeling is, but the bottom line is that the world IS real, (that can be frightening as well), and its just as real as spirit. Lately my panic attacks have been returning, and I can't meditate anymore without feeling extremely afraid. I know this means that I'm evoloving and must push through the fear, as you all must as well. Let us celebrate the union of the phyiscal and the spiritual with a dance, a song, a piece of music or art. Thank you everyone for your inspiring posts. May we all realize our fear is as much a part of us as our love, and may we fuse and embrace both sides of the coin into material and spiritual balance.
Let god becken us
And let the Earth nuture
We shall rise up
We shall rise up strong and great
For we are stardust
We are stardust and light
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Namaste73
Knowflake Posts: 31
From: Miami, fl, USA
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 20, 2005 10:46 PM
Your words are so profound. I am glad I read them, for i am truly weary right now... My spirit is a bit weary, and I feel very lost. but I am fighting, and just trying to hold on..No, I am too much of a coward to end my life. Too much pressure about how it will impact my family and friends, so this is not an option for me. SOmeone once said that there are things that are far worse than death... I certainly agree with that. (sigh). sorry for sounding depressed, but in essence, that is how i am feeling at the moment.. IP: Logged |
Eleanore
Moderator Posts: 1096
From: North Carolina
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 21, 2005 06:16 AM
There are many things worse than death but so are there many things worse than life. Weariness is something we all encounter. Despair and depression are great tempters; it's easy to just give in to them instead of finding real reasons to push them away.I agree, BlueRoamer, that these are times of testing/growth on the path. We really must push through. Sometimes the road bends and curves and we can't always see directly in front of us and, if night should fall before you make it around the bend, it might seem safer to linger among the shadows. However, sometimes, in the dark, every tree will look menacing, every creature noise will sound frightening, and you may very well find yourself panicking over things that, in the light, you would appreciate. Day always overcomes the Night, no matter how long it seems to take.  ------------------
"This above all:
to thine own self be true,
And it must follow,
as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false
to any man." - Shakespeare IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 336
From: ohio
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 21, 2005 09:18 AM
I can definitely relate to all of you! Your stories could be mine! Thank You for sharing.IP: Logged | |
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