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Topic: Economics
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26taurus Moderator Posts: 8909 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 05, 2005 11:23 PM
We know only one kind of economics. If you give your money, you will lose it. You have to cling on to it. You may have to snatch it away from others. You have to give less and get more, then you are in profit.But inner economics is totally different, just the polar opposite of the outer: the more you give, the more you have; the less you give, the less you have; the more you give, the more the whole of existence goes on pouring into you. You have to be constantly giving, sharing for the sheer joy of sharing. It needs guts, but once you have experienced it, once you have come to know the inner mathermatics, then there is no problem. The first step needs courage, after that there is no problem at all. Once you know that the more you give, the more you get, then it is very easy. The first step in love cannot be taken by a coward. It needs somebody bold in spirit who can take a risk. Who knows whether you will get any response or not? Who knows? You may give your love and nothing may come in return. There is no guarantee. But that first step has to be taken in trust, then the second step is very easy and you can move thousands of miles. Then there is no problem at all; then the whole journey is very simple and life becomes richer and richer at each step. The ABC of Enlightenment ~ A spiritual dictionary for the here and now. by Osho. I'll post a few more words with Osho's redefinitions from the book. IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8909 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 05, 2005 11:30 PM
Courage:Courage is risking the known for the unknown, the familiar for the unfamiliar, the comfortable for the uncomfortable, arduous pilgrimage to some unknown destination. We never know whether we will be able to make it or not. It is gambling, but only gamblers know what life is.  IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8909 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 05, 2005 11:40 PM
Success:Remember, if you think too much of success you will constantly be thinking of failure too. Success and failure cannot be seperated. They come together in one package. So if you are thinking of success, somewhere deep down you will be afraid of failing. Who knows whether you are going to make it or not? Success takes you into the future, gives you a greed game, an ego projection, ambition. And the fear also gives you a shaking, a trembling. The possibility of failure makes you waver. And with this wavering, with this greed, with this ambition, with all of this, your work will be in turmoil; you will be working here and looking there.. You will be walking along a road and looking somwhere faraway in the sky. How can you possibly succeed? IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8909 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 05, 2005 11:48 PM
Ambition:Ambitions are infectious. Avoid ambitious people, otherwise something of their fever is bound to infect you. You may start moving in a direction that is not yours, you may start doing things that you had never thought of before, just because you fell into company with somebody ... Perhaps your father wanted you to be a doctor, so now you are a doctor. You fulfilled HIS ambition. He used you as a means to fulfil his ambition. This is not love, this is exploitation. Ambition is the root of madness - try to understand your ambitiousness. Your effort to be somebody in the world will drive you mad. Just be nobody and then there is no problem. Drop ambitiousness and start living, because the ambitious person cannot live, he always postpones. His real life will always be tomorrow - and tomorrow never comes. The ambitious person is bound to be aggressive and violent, and the violent person and aggressive person are bound to go mad. The non-ambitious person is peaceful, loving, compassionate. The ambitious person is always in a hurry, rushing towards something that he vaugely feels is there, but he will never find it. It is like the horizon - it does not exist, it only appears to exist. The non-ambitious person lives here and now, and to be here and now is to be sane. To be totally in this moment is to be sane. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 06, 2005 12:06 AM
I liked the sentiments of the first post quite a bit. Once I got to ambition, however, I think that there are ambitious people who are neither overly aggressive or violent. Seems to be almost a caricature of the ambitious.IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8909 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 12:32 AM
Hi AG, I see what you are saying and had a feeling that one would get a response or two. I think the underlying message there is really about living in the present. I do not agree that all ambitious people are violent or aggressive either. And I think his definition of economics is my favorite out of these too.I opened up the book randomly for a message with you in mind, (I do that for myself often with certain books ) maybe it will mean something to you ... Life: I say to you, life is the only truth there is. There is no other God but Life. So allow yourself to be possessed by life in all it's forms, colors, dimensions - the whole rainbow, all the notes of the musical scale. It is simple, it is only a question of letting go. Dont push the river, let the river take you to the ocean. It is already on it's way there. Relax, dont be tense and dont try to be spiritual. Dont create any division between matter and spirit. Matter and spirit are simply two sides of the same coin. Relax, rest and go with the river. Be a gambler, not a businessman, and you will know more of God, because the gambler can take risks. The gambler can put all that he has at stake. But the thrill of the gambler when he stakes everything and waits...what is going to happen now? In that very moment a window can open. That very moment can become a transformation of inner gestalt. Be a drunkard - be drunk with life, with the wine of existence. Dont remain sober. The sober person remains dead. Drink the wine of life. It has so much poetry and so much love and so much juice. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 06, 2005 06:12 PM
Hey!Just wanted to say that I read your reply, but I don't know how to respond to it. I guess I feel like that part you got for me out of your book could speak to me at times, but I think at this moment I am probably supposed to be a bit more diligent. I'm 32, single, and starting a new job. I haven't been very security minded so far in life, and I think I need to develop that. I need stop with the restlessness and buckle down and create something. I already know how to accept things, and how to gamble. I need to learn how to stop gambling with my life and my career so much. I've got to learn to love myself in the big picture sense. Realize where I am and where I want to go. (I just learned about my Capricornian North Node too -another indicator of what direction I need to take.) Anyway, I think that's it. Hope you're having a good day. I'm glad you're back more regularly now.  AG IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8909 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 08:54 PM
Hi AG, You took the words right out of my mouth here: quote: I haven't been very security minded so far in life, and I think I need to develop that. I need stop with the restlessness and buckle down and create something. I already know how to accept things, and how to gamble. I need to learn how to stop gambling with my life and my career so much. I've got to learn to love myself in the big picture sense. Realize where I am and where I want to go.
I'm in the same boat. You'd think with all our 'earthiness', we would know how. Well, I dont. You have a lot of Sag influence I believe, I'm sure that plays a part in it. And with natal Uranus on my MC (and Aqua intercepted in the 1st), I think has alot to do with why I am the way I am. Part of me feels like I've really got to get my sh*t together (I do) but then, the other part feels like I am exactly where I need to be (I am). My urge to 'create' something meaningful has been strong for so long now. And it gets me down because I dont know how to do it....or exactly what to do. I do know that I need to work for myself eventually and utilize my artistic talents or I will never be happy. We are all here to create in one form or another.... Anyway, best of luck to you. Ultimeately, we are really doing just fine.  Hope youre having a nice night.  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 07, 2005 12:14 AM
Heyyyy,Very sweet post there. You understand perfectly. With almost everything in my 5th to 8th houses it seems like my life should start taking off if I understand the timeline noted in astrology (good chance I don't). So I may be exactly where I need to be. I'm interpretting myself as being exactly where I need to be, but even so I'm consciously looking for the things that will help me get to wherever it is I need to go. My chart strongly indicates I should work for myself as well, so I'm hoping for lessons in that area right now. Part of me also feels like I should start testing my own instincts as well. Maybe test some of the waters I've been afraid of thus far. Anyway, thanks for the post. It's very cool to connect with you on this.  AG IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 07, 2005 12:15 AM
FYI  IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8909 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 08, 2005 01:32 AM
Hi AG, Yes, great to connect with you! I can see why you have the urge to work for yourself with Aqua on your 10th house cusp. That is similar to Uranus on my MC. What pops out at me in your chart is your NN closely conj. Jupiter in the 8th. I wonder how that plays out in your life. I have my anaretic degree moon in Virgo conj. my NN in the 8th. So all things 'moon related' are pronounced and especially important for me in this lifetime. You have a Gemini Asc. and that sign's ruler is in your 7th, sextile Uranus, your 10th house ruler, in the 6th house of work (trining your MC). Makes me think you might be a good marriage counselor... Uranus is in Libra, the relationship sign as well. And you've got strong 5th and 8th house energy going on in the 'other relationship houses'. Then there's the Moon and Pluto conj. in the creative 5th house, I could see you making a career out of your musical/artistic talents (Pluto trines your MC, Scorpio - ruled by Pluto, is intercepted in the 6th/Cancer ruling your 2nd house). Uranus in the 6th also shows that you want to be creative and original in your work.... Life really is an open road.  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 08, 2005 02:32 AM
I REALLY wish I was there with you on understanding astrology.So Jupiter will take on greater meaning being conjunct my NN? Expansion and so forth will be especially important? Is there conflict there with my NN being in Capricorn conjunct Jupiter the ruler of Sag, with the Aqua cusp on the 10th? This is too much studying for me to get into right now. I've got to get to bed. Thanks for taking interest even if I don't understand it myself.  AG IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 22350 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted September 09, 2005 07:34 PM
Well-said, 26.  ------------------ "There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8909 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 12, 2005 03:29 PM
Thanks Randall.Hi AG, Just wanted to let you know I havent responded to your post because I havent been able to get online. Right now I'm at the library and the computer is being really slow and Ive got to go. But I will respond as soon as I can. Hope youre both having a nice day.  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 12, 2005 08:03 PM
It's no problem 26.  I hope you're having a good day as well.  IP: Logged | |