posted September 24, 2013 03:28 PM            

Why you went into the field of banking? What qualities do you think a person needs in order for him to be successfull in general? And how about being successfull in the field of management? Does it takes certain personality traits or personal likes/interests in order for one to want and grow in the field, instead of reaching the position and emotionally suffer from it?

posted September 24, 2013 04:15 PM            

Well, I couldn't become the doctor that my father wanted me to be because I tried the pre-medicine program and I hated it with a passion.

I have a knack for figures and I am fundamentally analytical. My father was a very successful banker, having become a bank CEO. My grandfather was a banker. My great grandfather was a merchant. It is in my blood, even though my father never realized it.

I found my finance and economics courses very easy. I hate reading, and still do. At the same time, I can spout the BS and spin sh1t into chocolate. Therefore, it follows that studies in teh social sciences were for me, especially in a field that doesn't require voluminous reading. I got easy As in all my economics, finance and accounting courses. That stuff came naturally.

I am a deal maker. A negotiator. Nothing drives me like the art of making a deal. In a way, I'm a mini Donald Trump. Therfore, on the practical side, relationship banking is definitely for me.

For success in general, one has to want success and everything that comes with it. It's about dedication and the ability to understand what it takes to get there. It's not just about working hard. Working hard gets one nowhere. It's working smartly to get all the right opportunities that counts. It takes passion. It takes a PITA attitude that nothing is going to stand in your way and no mofo is going to be able to criticize you in such a way that drags you down. If a course requires reading 10,000 pages of text, reading it all is straight up stupid. If you read it all, you deserve to get the B. If you don't read, you deserve the C. If you don't care, then live with the F. If you sit back and choose carefully what you need to read, and work hard enough in all the right places, then you will get the A. And if you are smart about it, you may even get the A and have some free time to go to the movies.

To be a manager, one has to take ownership of a situation/project/manage somthing and view the tasks as one's own. One has to adopt an attitude of responsibility. One has to manage the situation the way one sees fit. One has to have the drive, motivation and ambition to succeed. Most of all, one has to have passion. If you can wake up at 5 am, put on a suit and tie, and fly enthusiastically to handle a task, and don't view it as a drudgery, then you have what it takes to be a manager. A half azzed attitude yields half azz results. One's passion in one's work is clearly represented in the final product.

Most of all, formulate your morals/values/ethics and never allow those to be negotiable. Never compromise on those. You succeed only with the divine help of your Creator, and you owe it to your Creator, yourself and all humanity to lead an examplary life. When you are successful, never forget where you came from. Always be respectful and benevolent. Always give to the less fortunate. Always make it your life's plan to help others succeed. When others succeed, you reap the rewards as well. Everyone wins.

posted September 25, 2013 02:56 AM            

Why did you pursue medicine? Family wishes or yours? Do you think that you will never know what really fits your "style" untill you actualy start majoring in the subject and see it for it is? If i remember right you have a son who will take the path of medicine, do you believe the family blood will take him on a similiar path to yours?

In a way, dont you think a person needs also very strong intuition in order to seperate the cr*p from whats important and get to the good stuff (in studies and life)?
Do you think every person has such capabilities?
Eventually in the end you must skeem across those 10000 pages in order to get the idea of whats important and what needs to be scrapped.

Do you believe the needs of your projects, which you must take fairly seriously, might require handling that might interrupt other areas in your life?

Do you one can reach satisfaction without reaching a top? For some reason i see people here and there, who are satisfied, and yet they do fairly simple jobs at simple to somewhat good places.

posted September 26, 2013 03:56 PM            

As far as my kid, it's up to him and his mind hasn't been made up, but he has a moral imperative and proper reason to study medicine. For his own sake, being chronically ill.

My eldest son is very different from me. He is highly musically gifted, which I am not. He is artistic, which I am definitely not. His path won't be similar to mine.

My younger son is just like me. I don't envision him being anything other than being a banker.

A person needs to remained focused and practical in all goals. It's good to have lofty ambitions, but being idealistic is counterintuitive.

It's just not true that I would sacrifice family life for work. I do what I need to do to get things done. Then I go home. I'm still just a paid employee and not the owner of a business. It's very different if you are paying yourself a paycheck.

Whether an individual is satisfied is up to teh individual. Who says one attains satisfaction just by reaching the top? Some people are content to do simple jobs and earning a fair wage. Others want more. Others don't want anything too difficult. Choose your own life path. But if you were to ask me if I want a decent lifestyle, the answer would be affirmative. I have to work to afford that lifestyle.

posted September 28, 2013 12:59 PM            

Is you musically gifted son going to become a musician? I have seen many people who managed to reach fame, but the field has wild competiton, more than the "traditional" professions.

I must say, you almost make it al sound simple, maybe it is in some way, but i guess one must know himself well enough to know wat path to take in life, taking skills , preferences and practical considerations into account.

posted September 29, 2013 07:09 PM            

My son plays two instruments at the concert level. He is also an equestrian rider. His grades are top notch. And we're waiting for his Early Action Admissions results at the college of his choice (obligated to attend if he gets in), and he will likely study pre-medicine, information technology and pre-business.

I find studying boring. But I did it anyway. I did what it took to get the results I desired. I wasn't selected to be a Rhodes Scholar but I was lucky enough to get into the Fulbright program. My girlfriend at that time became a Presidential Fellow. My son's high school friend (2 years his senior) became a Presidential Scholar in the Arts and played the piano abroad before his Freshman Year at Harvard.

Success is a state of mind. You need to have passion because passion drives the motivation. Yes, the suffering can be painful, but have you ever heard of building body muscle without pain? Dedication, perseverance, diligence, ambition and passion drives results. You have to want it. If your parents want it for you but you don't want it, it'll never work. In my case, my sons want it, and therefore they succeed.

posted September 29, 2013 07:37 PM            

1. What are you good at?

2. What are you passionate about?

posted October 01, 2013 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I want you to ask yourself three important questions.

1. What are you good at?

2. What are you passionate about?

3. How are you going to bridge the gap between what you are good at, and what you are passionate about, and then decide what you can do with your life to excel at what you do for a living.

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Trust me that i have been contemplating these questions for the last 2 and a half years, and have yet to find a concrete answer, mostly, becuse of doubt.

posted October 01, 2013 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You've got to know where you are going, and why you want to go there, before worrying about how to get there.

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Thats the thing! I do have a path i want to go to since it is a very interesting field and it allows me to work in close contact to people while using analysis skills (psychology), and i have decided to take the path which is more fitting to my ambitions (organizational psychology, no strain from emotional pain of patients and the salary is usually higher, the only problem is that there might be uncomfortable work hours)

posted October 01, 2013 03:09 PM            

Anything to do with healthcare (including mental health), be prepared to dedicated every waking hour, including evenings, holidays and weekends.

posted October 02, 2013 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You haven't even begun but you're complaining about the working hours?

Anything to do with healthcare (including mental health), be prepared to dedicated every waking hour, including evenings, holidays and weekends.

Ultimate is surgery. 72 hours on, and then 24 hours off, but yet on-call.

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You should have read properly.
The profession is not related to health (nk taking care of patients or working in a clinic)
Organizational psychologist are in change of organizational consultation, screening of candidates for a job, psychological evaluation, carrer counseling and more... in general its a psychologist who work with HR

They are not clinical/counseling/developmental psychologists and they are not in charge of the mental health of the people they work with.

posted October 02, 2013 10:32 AM            

I know my HR folks work all day and half the night, and my HR boss is in the office before 7:00 am.

posted October 02, 2013 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Good luck. Plan for 8 to 8s. 60-65 hour work weeks.

I know my HR folks work all day and half the night, and my HR boss is in the office before 7:00 am.

Once again, you haven't started work, and you're looking at the clock already.

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Well you must notice the difference between where you live and work and where i do.

Here, places who deal with organizational psychologists(not a department in a company) are often specialized institutions who do the services for the company without the company needing to keep "its own" psychologists. The work week is 9am to 6pm and yes, there can be overtime, but the industly here is less stressed than i would believe it is where you live. Correct me if im mistaken.

And actually, i graduated high school and curretly working full time (even though im not 18) untill i will be recruited, so i have a little bit of experience with work hours, yet not in a place i find interesting so of course the feeling is different, and i am always watching for the clock to ring 5.

posted October 02, 2013 02:48 PM            

The services professionals in this town keep supremely long hours. The young ones are especially tied to work, and the older ones used to leave at a decent time, but no longer. When I was young, my hours were unreal.

posted October 03, 2013 02:46 AM            

people where i live, keep regular hours.
management positions do have unpaid overtime and calls outside of work, and yet it depends on the positions of the manager.

our production manager at work rarely stays past 5. the job is stressfull indeed and there are a lot of meetings and work, but he leaves at 5 pm sharp (if not 4)

i think it might be more related to the industry itself, especially in large corporations.

you see, as a person, im not very energetic so working 12 hour days and working out and having some sort of social and love life is too much of a challange, at least from my point of view working 8 to 5.

research also has long hours, mainly for research needing a lot of work, yet ungortunally i cant aim to that position mostly becuse the industry in my field of interest is dead ( biology) while there is an increase worldwide.

posted October 03, 2013 03:17 PM            

The younger you are, the longer hours you put in over here.

I have friends who are tenured professors who spend into the wee hours of the morning with their research. The biotechnology and biomedical engineering sectors are notorious.

posted October 04, 2013 02:23 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Well, it's good you are there because it is not the culture here.

The younger you are, the longer hours you put in over here.

I have friends who are tenured professors who spend into the wee hours of the morning with their research. The biotechnology and biomedical engineering sectors are notorious.

What do you think college and graduate school is?

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I think a university is a place where you can study and get a degree saying you studied something at a certain level, even though it opens you doors and increases your "value" it does not point out intelligence in a direct way.

I am planning to go to university and study untill a masters degree, and if il see im able to reach a phd, il get one, though i am not sure if im planning to go to research.

You will be surprised how little biotechnology is developed here, and most biology/biotechnology majors (for bachelors, masters and doctorate) strrugle very much to find work even abroad.

Do you enjoy your work?

Dont you think most people will wear out in time, and will become unproductive at work? Lose their social lives?

posted October 04, 2013 09:00 AM            

Do I enjoy it? No.

I much rather do nothing. You think I like working hard?

posted October 04, 2013 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I'm good at what I do.

Do I enjoy it? No.

I much rather do nothing. You think I like working hard?

But then I like to eat and vacation, and someone has to pay the bills.

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Well, i just wondered if you dont feel tired from working at such unreasonable hours and doing something you have 0 interest in.

I mean, you must have quite the fat paycheck to make up for it, and the same for many people who work in economics/finances. Must be a compensation for the boring work and long hours.

You do not regret you took that career path? I saw from your post your satisfaction comes from your family, have you yet reached a state where you can retire and live quietly with them? Or you have yet reached the "mark"? I am sure you thought about it looking at the situation (boring work, fun family)

posted October 04, 2013 11:02 AM            

My passion is in cars and bikes, among several other things. In women too, but I'm out of that business.

I can't make what I consider a decent living out of my passions. So, I do what I'm good at.

Career path? I rather not have had a career path. I hated school to the bones. Detested it and everything that is associated with it. I dislike reading immensely. Yet, I did the best I could and got all the right grades.

Yes, I would like to go "retire and live quietly." What constitutes that retirement is different for you and I. I'm far from achieving that state as per my preferences and those of my family.

I do have my family fun and home fun, and also fun from my cars. So, it isn't as though I don't have fun. Just not enough of it.

posted October 04, 2013 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
What is reasonable is relative.

My passion is in cars and bikes, among several other things. In women too, but I'm out of that business.

I can't make what I consider a decent living out of my passions. So, I do what I'm good at.

Career path? I rather not have had a career path. I hated school to the bones. Detested it and everything that is associated with it. I dislike reading immensely. Yet, I did the best I could and got all the right grades.

Yes, I would like to go "retire and live quietly." What constitutes that retirement is different for you and I. I'm far from achieving that state as per my preferences and those of my family.

I do have my family fun and home fun, and also fun from my cars. So, it isn't as though I don't have fun. Just not enough of it.

Commerce and finance isn't for everyone. It's the same with medicine and law.

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Oh now i see, well when the tastes are expensive one should be ready to pay for it.

If you passion is bikes and cars, why not go in the car engineering/design business? I they that in the more prestigious companies (and even in the smaller ones) the pay is very good.

But then again, with all the learning it takes...

posted October 04, 2013 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
Oh now i see, well when the tastes are expensive one should be ready to pay for it.

If you passion is bikes and cars, why not go in the car engineering/design business? I they that in the more prestigious companies (and even in the smaller ones) the pay is very good.

But then again, with all the learning it takes...

What is retirement for you? If i might ask.

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What is "very good" is also relative.

Sure. If you are Sergio Macchione, Luca di Montezmolo, Dieter Zetsch or Carlos Ghosn.

posted October 04, 2013 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
What is "very good" is also relative.

Sure. If you are Sergio Macchione, Luca di Montezmolo, Dieter Zetsch or Carlos Ghosn.

Do I look like I'm able to run a Formula One team? No, I'm not. So keep working.

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its a bit hard to "look" at you through a pink forum XD

i didnt just talk about racing, i was talking about making the next generation of cars or some new fancy type of lotus (i have no idea in cars but i heard it was a prestigious cars, which is probably relative to you)

wen i talk about good money, im talking from a "you can live comfortably and with some luxuries and vacations" while the luxuries and vacations not being so expensive

from my little world, i do need money, but not in huge amounts since im not planning on making big bucks (its hard here) and would rather do something i like with "regular pay"
which you will probably say is relaive too.