posted April 15, 2002 01:25 AM           

I am less sure about the Rosicrucian Fellowship - the trouble is, there are literally hundreds of Rosicrucian organisations. And quite possibly, Linda had none of them in mind.

I do think she took a course of Rosicrucian study, but that doesn't mean she offically joined any particular group.

The axiom "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" is definitely accurate in my experience. If you read Linda's books, and sincerely do everything she suggests, a teacher or "guru" will pop up - and usually sooner rather than later.

posted September 04, 2002 06:04 PM           

who came a-knocking
on my closed -to-strangers door
that dreary grey
and unexpected wintry day
in Colorado

whoever and whatever he may have been
and still may be - or from where
from Egypt or the Far East .. or from Outer Space

.... although I cannot deny that he was clever
there is certainly no doubt that he was spaced-out

whether Inner - or Outer Space
is the place he calls home base
he was spaced-out
beyond any doubt

oh! far-far out was he
when he said that I would someday be
with one whose spiritual name, is .. Altar

posted November 12, 2002 06:56 AM         

Linda used to tell a funny story about how she wrote Sun Signs. Picture a coffee table and a typewriter placed before a couch. Linda would write for a spell, then succumb to a bout of sleep, waken and start typing anew.

We used to chuckle over that image as we worked before her huge desk in her office in Cripple Creek, with her dogs Ben and Bear curled up before the fireplace.

She was mostly self taught in Astrology, but did call Lloyd Cope for some help in learning all the math surrounding secondary progressions. She often told me that she re-member-ed most of her astrological knowledge, but she did manage to acquire quite a library of astrological books.. copies of which I now have in my library, along with a list of astrological "signatures" that she had put together over the years.

I don't believe that she was officially a member of any Mystery School, but she was an avid reader, and did have contact with some fairly high level guides or Teachers.

Hope this helps.

posted March 31, 2005 05:10 PM           

I have found this thread fascinating. I have not read anything about Rosicrucianism, but am convinced of the connection. Can anyone recommend a good web site or book to find out about them?

I'm quite cynical about any organised religion too. However, some things are well worth investigating.

I remember Linda referring to the Catholic Church and the 'Mormon' church as having some of the most (can't think of the word) well-kept esoteric secrets or something like that. I've heard that Joseph Smith (original prophet of the Mormon church) had connections with the Freemasons, and that there are similarities between the Freemason rictuals and Mormon rictuals. So, Freemasons are also connected with the Rosicrucians?! (A lot of connecting!).

It would be nice to just know the TRUTH. Who does one trust? One's S-elf, I guess- and God/Goddess. But where does one search for knowledge/inspiration upon this earthly plane, without being taken as a fool (again)? Seeing/Feeling is believing, for me.

I wonder......do the members of the R. Fellowship practice levitation/O.O.B.E's (astral-travel?).

Didn't Linda mention some esoteric group that could atsral travel and heal those in need? I wouldn't mind having that ability!

Anyway, perhaps one day I'll be led to beings of enlightenment and out of this maze!

posted April 01, 2005 03:05 AM           

I hear what your saying about this thread, it's facinating. Last night I went back and read the preface to Star Signs, and there it was "Rosicrucian", right in front of my face. Of course I can say, it just slipped by, I guess My S-elf said, "its not time yet, just keep reading kid"

I hope someone does tell you some good books to read or a site so i can write it down and check it out later; too busy at the moment.

I was also reading last night, and came upon the "coincidence" paragraph that linda wrote:

"Often, the initial manifestation of your quest is a series of strange "coincidences" which are not Coincidental at all......leading you to certain books written about a variety of metaphysical subjects. You can be led to such esoteric works in several ways. Sometimes through a chance remark from friends....often through your own seemingly aimless but subconsciously purposeful browsing. You'll soon learn to judge yourself whether a book's contents are misleading or wise by listening to the voice of your own higher self, whispering into your inner ear. You'll learn to feel the messages in a short while. Some books you may reject, and others you will inwardly know are teaching a facet of universal truth you can accept"

So....I am sure something about this thread will come to you, if it already hasnt.

These things always come to you in some strange way, for instance, I came to Utah in 2001, I was going to go to Santa monica for TOM (Traditional Oriental Medicine), but about three months before going, I had a dream about this place, it is too long to talk about now, but it scared me, there was water, singing, flowing blood, a clear day, just strange, but at the same time fascinating, It pondered upon me for a while, I would tell all my friends and such, and everyone was just as bugged out as me. later, I would find a tape for a massage school in Utah, and after watching it, I was pulled to come here first before I went to Santa monica. I never made it to Santa Monica.

I knew it was the right choice. ("you"ll learn to feel the message in a short while") what was funny was, I had this feeling about 2002, and it was mostly because of the 4 in that number, You see my birth name comes out to a 4, and I just felt good about that number, and behold I got a position to do massage in the 2002 Winter olympics here. It wasnt on athletes, but on the volunteers and it was great.
when I would look back on it, in numerology terms, Salt Lake City was a 4, but so was Santa Monica, how did I know that I was on the journey and picked the right one?

well ater the Olympics and the summer, I left here to return to IL, and I traveled working on horses and people all over the midwest, but SLC called me back and I returned. I moved in a apartment who's number was Apt 22, and my phone number with or without area code came to a 8, so when it comes to you, books, sites, info, it will come as long as you let it come.

Interestly enough (patience...i am almost done-LOL) My dream featured the mormons, masons, and some other things. I didnt even know about the Mormons until i got here, and I have learned alot (a major part being my dream, or maybe OBE) I visited the masonic temple here, you can take a free tour. A older lady took, myself, a friend and another gent all through the old building. We went into room, after room, after room, and finally came to one of the auditoriums where meetings and probably plays took place. there was a stone table in the middle of the circular room and the domed ceiling above fostered the constellation Sagittarius (that of which I am) I asked her why Sagittarius was on the ceiling, and she said she did not know.

There definately is a line to both (mormons and masons) but the jehovah witness are apart of it too. here is a link from this Gent from England, David Icke about the mormons and JW, and their link to Masons.
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/russell.html

I can vouch for the info, my mother is a JW, and I looked in their huge history book and there the leader was (The founder) and the Mormons dont deny their affiliation with masons.

the Mormons are also the oldest sponsor of the boy scouts, and all the meeting for the scouts are held in their wards (churches) one of the kids was at scouts and they made picture frames, and in the picture frames was the president of the mormon church.with these values on it, another time, they took the boys on a field trip to a art collectors home, and they brought home a post card with a picture of Captain Moreni, a charactor in the book of mormon, I thought they tied knots and such at those meeting!!! its interesting how things go, isnt it? I guess most meetings are held in churchs of all affilations around the country....? dont know, never was a scout.

I do believe that its all connected though..all of it. there has to be a foundation of some sort for every branch we pick from:

Linda said:
" Partial truth-the seeds of wisdom-can be found in many places. In primal instinct may partial truth be found...in earthly law, social custom,scientific research, philosophy, and religious doctrine. The seeds of wisdom are contained in ALL scriptures ever written...especially art, music and Poetry...and above all, in Nature.

Nuff Said!!!

posted April 01, 2005 06:00 AM           

Thankyou- that was very inspiring and helpful. I had forgot those words of Linda's. I was thinking about all this Rosicrucian business since last night, but not in a positive way. I had been wondering whether Linda had just been taken in by a member of another dogmatic, esoteric group. So the words that you gave definetely helped!

My family are in the Mormon Church. I was also involved for a while- not because anyone made me, but out of free will. However, I had to think long and hard about certain things, most importantly the feelings I had inside after visiting their temple. 'Losing my Religion' (!) as REM would put it was a very, very difficult transition to go through as a teenager, and I did suffer from it. But it also made me very broad-minded indeed. What I find most of all difficult, however, is maintaining the faith; that God-connection, or state of Higher Self.
That would be the greatest acchievement of all.

Coincidences. Yes. That does re-affirm my faith. (Some say it's good to be skeptic, but it also leads to faithlessness which makes me feel like I'm wandering around in a very dark room; the aching heart can lead to recklessness).

An example of 'coincidence' I've just been thinking of:
My son was born in room 8, at 11 minutes past 11 and weighed 8 1bs 8!

He probably would have been born on the 16th, but I did my best to make it the 15th because I thought that would be a better number!

I think I had better re-read Star Signs. It has very unearthly teachings in it indeed, but Linda was a very broad-minded lady. I guess I'm just a little scared of having 'blind faith'. At the same time, I sort of need something to guide me, and Linda is very dear to me; I feel that we could be from the same planet!

Take care

LOve and Peace

posted April 01, 2005 06:33 AM           

I know exactly what you mean, about family and religion....dont want to even think about that past.

The blind faith thing is definately a Mormon thing, at least here. My ex girlfriend said (years ago and mormon) that she was hoping that blind faith would change me to be a Mormon. I told her, "Sorry I am a Sagitarrian"

But all in all, your in good hands here, we are family and we spill mucho Love to everyone, its LINDA LOVE!!!!

As I was reading your reply at 4:21 AM here... I was listening to my brothas play on media player, I think this song is for you and your thoughts, I hope you have it on CD, you should I think every one should....lol. but I am a little touchy and pushy with my Irish boys. gotta go to bed, my girl will be up in 3.5 hours...thank GOD for PBS and BARNEY, TELETUBBIES, and Authur!!

U2
Actung baby
Ultra Violet (light my way)

Sometimes I feel like I don't know
Sometimes I feel like checkin' out
I want to get it wrong
Can't always be strong
And love it won't be long...

Oh sugar
Don't you cry
Oh child
Wipe the tears from your eyes
You know I need you to be strong
And the day is as dark as the night is long
Feel like trash
You make me feel clean
I'm in the black
Can't see or be seen

Baby Baby Baby light my way

You bury your treasure
When it can't be found
But your love is like a secret
That's been passed around
There is a silence that comes to a house
Where no one can sleep
I guess it's the price of love
I know it's not cheap

Baby Baby Baby light my way

I remember
When we could sleep on stones
Now we lie together
In whispers and moans
When I was all messed up
And I heard opera in my head
Your love was a light bulb
Hanging over my bed

Baby Baby Baby
Baby Baby Baby
Baby Baby Baby light my way

Baby Baby Baby
Baby Baby Baby
Baby Baby Baby light my way

This one too.....
Acrobat

Don't believe what you hear
Don't believe what you see
If you just close your eyes
You can feel the enemy
When I first met you girl
You had fire in your soul
What happened your face of melting in snow?
Now it looks like this

And you can swallow
Or you can spit
You can throw it up
Or choke on it
And you can dream
So dream out loud
You know that your time is coming 'round
So don't let the ******** grind you down

No, nothing makes sense
Nothing seems to fit
I know you'd hit out
If you only knew who to hit
And I'd join the movement
If there was one I could believe in
Yeah I'd break bread and wine
If there was a church I could receive in
'Cause I need it now

To take the cup
To fill it up
To drink it slow
I can't let you go
I must be an acrobat
To talk like this
And act like that
And you can dream
So dream out loud
And don't let the ******** grind you down

Oh, it hurts baby
What are we going to do? Now it's all been said
No new ideas in the house and every book has been read

And I must be an acrobat
To talk like this
And act like that
And you can dream
So dream out loud
And you can find
Your own way out
And you can build
And I can will
And you can call
I can't wait until
You can stash
And you can seize
Responsibilities
And I can love
And I can love
And I know that the tide is turning 'round
So don't let the ******** grind you down

****************************

the ******* being fear...to me at least. good nite all...I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!

posted April 01, 2005 05:16 PM           

The other day I was singing 'Where the Streets have no name' in the kitchen. I remembered what a brilliant song it was-great words. Singing rejuvenates me when I'm tired too. Have you ever heard Jeff Buckley? Amazing voice. Most of his stuff is quite haunting (good, but not uplifting like U2), however there are a few songs which I would name as absolute favourites : 'Grace' and 'New Year's Prayer', the latter from "My Sweetheart the Drunk"..........That's a very powerful, spiritual song- I think it's amazing. Well, it resonates with me anyway. Jeff dated Elizabeth Frazer (Cocteau Twins, and the song 'Teardrop' who I think has the best voice ever, and who's music I find VERY spiritual;sublime. I heard that she's a vegan and she believes she lived in Atlantis in a past life..........

Jeff Buckley died a few years ago. It's weired but in his song 'So Real' he sings a line that goes 'and i couldn't escape from the dream that dragged me in and pulled me under'. Well that's how he died. He drowned. Poor love.....

I wish I had the words to 'New Year's Prayer' here! There was one line which went 'the streets...where we don't belong- don't belong'. The song is about letting go, being reborn. Makes me think about vedic wisdom.

At the moment, there are two groups of people I would like to meet! One is the Rosicrucians (esp. our old friend Nahtan) and the Kogi Indians (the documentary 'From the Heartland- message from the Elder bother) was beautiful. The Hopi are also particularly intriguing.

This World,
I don't think I belong here......

The devoted eyes of a loving dog;
A baby's smile-which moves me to tears.
And all that is innocent-
Is Godliness.

The terrible screams
Of those creatures, dying
In abottoirs. In laboratorys.

The hell, the torturous suffering-
Of the victims; children; bereaved
families; orphans-
Of war.
Why war?
Hell is a place on Earth.
The competitive nature, of man,
And his ignorance.
his so-called Right to 'dominate'
and 'use' other, non-human beings. (and anyone weaker).

Where is morality?;
And the balance between
The Spirit, and the material-
Why not harmony?:
A balance between body and soul,
Masculine and feminine
Science and nature....
Harmony
I pray.

This society;-
I don't think I belong here....

They are called 'underdeveloped'
Some still say 'uncivilised'.....
The Innocent; Nature's children
And her keepers....
Why do I feel so drawn to them; thar I could live with and as one of them?

.....The sweet and wise Australian aborigines
Enchanting stories of 'Dream-time';
Their ancient drawings.....

The pure-hearted Kogi
Of the Columbian mountain
dressed in white;
Only survivors of an ancient,
Lost civilisation
I revere

* * *

Oh, the enchanting, native American Indian
I feel for every drop of your blood shed
In the dust
And my skin is white.....
Yet my heart, my soul
Is as yours.

Oh African Brother and Sister
I cry for you, and your pain
I anger at every injustice
Sometimes 'white' brings me shame
(But shame is colourless).

This World,
I don't think I belong here.....

But I wonder, where I'm from?

It is as though I hear a different song,
My melody, playing in my heart-
Or is that God?

My heart is yearning for answers
Can you hear the beating
of the drum?

.....The drum in the forest.......
In a land so green and nourished
....by sun.....

The beads and the smoke
The chanting.....
Shiney, dark braids of hair

Initiation Ceremony

Togetherness Community

I feel the ancient Spirit inside
of me
-Akashic Records?

And the Yearning
...for a Soul Mate

(I've always longed for the answers).
(I guess I suffer from intense spells of enchantment)....
-Could the planets be to blame? (My moon conjunct Pluto and 12th house Neptune?)
-What is real and what is not?
-What is Truth; what is Light?
For Truth is Real, Myth should be
forgot
And Truth is Eternal.

posted April 02, 2005 01:21 AM           

If you want to get an idea of what Linda was studying, a similar version of the Doreal translations is now available on line at the crystalinks.com site. I think she has a separate page for the "Emerald Tablets of Toth."

posted May 24, 2005 04:10 PM         

There's the link on the crystal links site to the Emerald Tablets. I had to search through the site to find it so I thought this might make it easier for some. Thanks again, ram queen!