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Meili Zhiwei
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posted November 13, 2003 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meili Zhiwei     Edit/Delete Message
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Shizuka
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posted November 13, 2003 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizuka     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Succubus,

There is no easy way to get out of an addiction, but being in the presence of those who love you unconditionally is one requirement.

The ones with whom you participate vampirism are not the ones who will help you free yourself from that part which is threatening to engulf you. They themselves are lost in a world of false power and false pleasure.

The road to immortality is to acquire the attributes that transcend time and space. Those attributes are found in the spirit, when the spirit is living a life that is infused with meaning and the joy of life in every breath. Vampirism does not conquer life. It is only another manifestation of the fear of death.

But making something you fear into something that you find pleasure in is at best, temporary, false respite from the true fear, and at worst, a clever trap set up by demons who are much more clever than any self-proclaimed vampire out there.

May Heaven be with you as you try to disentangle yourself from this time.

Shizuka

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Randall
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posted November 13, 2003 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

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Shizuka
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posted November 13, 2003 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizuka     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you.

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Succubus
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posted November 13, 2003 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Succubus     Edit/Delete Message
MZ wrote:
"I am quite intrigued to read your contributions to this site. If I may briefly indulge in a generalization, I can say that I am familiar with the broad genre that you are rooted in. That is to say that I have reviewed many of the darker sites on line (as well as other sites otherwise orientated, and many more in between)."

If you want to find out the truth about something, the internet is not always the best place to go. There are many nut cases online. I doubt you will find any "true" Vampires there. The best way to learn is through first hand experience. Actually talk to serious people into this lifestyle or go to the events instead of basing your judgment by what you read on the internet or watch on Maury Povich.

MZ wrote:
"One might even say that it is quite extraordinary for one such as yourself to find even a passing interest in these (Lindaland) matters, even as a transitory amusement."

Why is it so extraordinary?? I like astrolgy and numerology. I own Star Signs and Love Signs. That is what lead me to the site.


MZ wrote:
"First, you may indeed simply be amusing yourself, in which case, I would encourage you to remain and enjoy the laughter. Even derision might possibly develop into a more substantial experience and you will find true benefit."

I did not expect to find such extremely odd ways of thinking that don't make sense, hence the laughter. Everyone has different ways of thinking. Even myself. But at least I can explain it logically. No one here can explain why they think Linda is alive or can explain certain theories in her book, but yet cling on to them like they are the be all end all.

MZ:
"Second, you may be seeking the answer to the ancient question of Human Faith."

No, I'm not. I already know the answer to that.


MZ:
"Of course, one man’s science is another man’s superstition. So, I am not sure that your efforts in this area will bear fruit."

I guess not. Everyone is too set on thier faith and beliefs so they won't question them.


MZ:
"I submit that humans in general, but you in particular, do not have a true understanding of Life and Death. All is possible, but the manifestation of the possibility depends on the need of Man. In other words, and perhaps more simply, immortality is possible but not probable since, in what set of circumstances would Creation require one physical form to exist throughout eternity? Answer that and you will have answered your conundrum of physical immortality."

So in other words, how can it be possible if there is no need for it? That's what your basically saying. In this world, it has always been survival of the fittest. Some species need to die off so that others can advance. We will not evolve if we're all immmortal. Our genes will stay the same. There is also the problem of overpopulation.

MZ:
"I submit that you do not have a clear understanding of the transmission of Teaching. First, the Teaching from the Teacher is limited to the ability of the Student to understand the material, and is thus limited in scope. The Teaching is subject to misunderstanding by the Student, so any transmission is thus subject to human error. Finally, only the Wise can determine and distinguish the difference between a limitation of presentation and an error of transmission. From this explanation it is possible to say that arrogance and presumption are unwise positions."

There is nothing wrong with having a teacher to guide you. However, it is wrong when you blindly accept what is told to you. You can't really learn that way. You need to ask questions. Doubt + Questions = Learning

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Succubus
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posted November 13, 2003 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Succubus     Edit/Delete Message
Shizuka wrote:
"There is no easy way to get out of an addiction, but being in the presence of those who love you unconditionally is one requirement."

Where do you get off assuming that I have an addiction?? Did it ever occur to you that my blood consumption is a special ritual that does not happen often? THINK before you respond! I am surrounded by many people who love me, thank you very much.

Shizuka:
"The ones with whom you participate vampirism are not the ones who will help you free yourself from that part which is threatening to engulf you. They themselves are lost in a world of false power and false pleasure."

How the hell do you know that?? Another idiotic assumption. Please back up how you claim to know so much about the people I associate with.

Shizuka:
"The road to immortality is to acquire the attributes that transcend time and space. Those attributes are found in the spirit, when the spirit is living a life that is infused with meaning and the joy of life in every breath. Vampirism does not conquer life. It is only another manifestation of the fear of death."

Again that is your opinion. Vampirism is a celebration of life. I am not afraid to die because I live in the now. I appreciate and make the most of my life instead of living by a bunch of silly rules that hold me back so that I can enter heaven or clean up my karma! lol Just because Vampirism is "dark" you associate it with death. I see it more as a "re-birth" of celebration of life and beauty and death of past orthodoxies.

Shizuka:
"But making something you fear into something that you find pleasure in is at best, temporary, false respite from the true fear, and at worst, a clever trap set up by demons who are much more clever than any self-proclaimed vampire out there."

OOHHH demons!! Now I'm scared! lol

Shizuka:
"May Heaven be with you as you try to disentangle yourself from this time"

What an excellent day for an exorcism! MMMWWWahahaha *vomits pea soup on shizuka's face*

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StarLover33
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posted November 13, 2003 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
By Succubus
What an excellent day for an exorcism! MMMWWWahahaha *vomits pea soup on shizuka's face*

Allow me to intervene. If you throw one more punch like that, then by the guidelines of this site you are banned. Do you understand? I don't care how intelligent you think you are, becuase in my book, you're just another close-minded arrogant fool.

Give me the facts, give me the facts, give me the facts. That is all I hear from you. Give me a break. It's called having WISDOM you fool...some people follow their hearts, and that is all they need. There are no facts to explain the spirit world, however you believe in it, do you not? So keep your mouth shut. There are many paths to the same point.

You argue about being better or worse because you are arrogant. You're trying to prove something to yourself, because you're insecure about your beliefs. I think you've been hurt one too many times and you're just trying to take it out on us. So please take your past, and go fix it somewhere else.

P.S. Please stop taking quotes from others when you reply, it's really annoying!

Sometimes we need to find the truth within ourselves, because that is where the facts are, and have been all along.

-StarLover

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Meili Zhiwei
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posted November 13, 2003 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meili Zhiwei     Edit/Delete Message
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Succubus
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posted November 14, 2003 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Succubus     Edit/Delete Message
Starlover33:
"Allow me to intervene. If you throw one more punch like that, then by the guidelines of this site you are banned. Do you understand? I don't care how intelligent you think you are, becuase in my book, you're just another close-minded arrogant fool."

You're only banning me because I threaten your beliefs and cause you to think and question. It scares you and ****** you off at the same time. If intelligence is closemindedness to you, then you are the fool, not I. I won't be surprised if this post is censored out of pure fear. Why aren't you banning the person who claimed that I was surrounded by demons?? lol I could have given her a really bad response but instead I tried to shrug it off with a joke. You only took it that way because you are threatened by me. You only ban me for that reason. Not because I broke any "rules." If someone else were to say something alot worse responding to my posts, and they shared your beliefs, you would be wetting yourself.

Starlover33:
"Give me the facts, give me the facts, give me the facts. That is all I hear from you. Give me a break. It's called having WISDOM you fool...some people follow their hearts, and that is all they need. There are no facts to explain the spirit world, however you believe in it, do you not? So keep your mouth shut. There are many paths to the same point."

lol, Hun, it is not called WISDOM, it is called BRAINWASHING! You are brainwashed to believe what you are told. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be so upset when you are presented with the challenge to explain your beliefs. And no I don't believe in the spirit world. And please refrain from telling me to shut up, because it is you who needs to do so. The intelligence level and the example the moderators set here is pathetic. You guys are just as bad if not worse, when it comes to spewing garbage and cluttering up threads.

Starlover33:
"You argue about being better or worse because you are arrogant. You're trying to prove something to yourself, because you're insecure about your beliefs. I think you've been hurt one too many times and you're just trying to take it out on us. So please take your past, and go fix it somewhere else."

There goes that Xtian "holier than thou" attitude again that assumes that I must be hurt just because I'm not like you. Get off your high perch already! Such arrogance is not very "white light" of you! You are a hypocrite! I'm very proud of my beliefs and I'm the only one here that has gone out of my way to explain them intelligently. That's not insecurity. Everyone here hides behind thier accusations of the Vampiric lifestyle so that they won't have to explain their beliefs. THAT'S INSECURITY!

STARLOVER33:
"P.S. Please stop taking quotes from others when you reply, it's really annoying!"

This site is designed in a way that you can't tell who the person is replying to unless they use quotes. If it's so annoying, improve the site by adding better features. Also, it reminds people of what they write so that they don't have an opportunity to twist words around. I'm through with this nonsense. You are all a pathetic bunch of sheep. I already know I will be banned and this post will be censored. I don't give a damn. It just proves my point on how this site thrives on fear and ignorance. What a shame. lol

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StarLover33
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posted November 14, 2003 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Wow you really are insecure. By every meaning of the word.

But you know what, I forgive you, your words don't effect me whatsoever.

For one thing, you've given me a good idea, I should start writing all my thoughts down so that I don't forget all the things that I've learned.

So when someone asks me a question, I won't be hesitant to tell them how I feel about it. I'm going to college to major in Philosophy and Logic because I want to find the truth. I've already learned to think for myself, now I need to harness that ability. I think I'd like to become a Professor and teach others.

I also want to study Physics like Albert Einstien, so I can help develop an explanation, or discover alternate dimensions, and parallel universes. I want to find his documents on how to Time Travel and how it supposedly works. I also want to explain that time doesn't exist and how we can disengage from destructive technology and use our mind powers instead. I want to find a way to get information from the Vatican, because I know they have a vast amount of secret knowledge, that I would love to get my hands on. I also want to find the truth about Jesus Christ and none of that half-ass they teach you in the Bible. The truth and nothing but the truth.

Wow I never realized how much I want to do. Oh well I just wanted to tell you my dreams and hopes because you think I'm sheep. Oh well, I'm young I'll learn more as I go along. But I forgive you, and I hope to go New York City one day, and maybe live there. For now, I live in the suburbs of Boston. I'm not angry at you, I just don't care that much anymore, I have better things to go out and do.

I am a moderator, and I have a say on your ban, and I vote NO, until you really blow the pot with your insulting jabs. It's not what you are saying, it is how you are saying it. There is a difference, if you're wise enough to understand.

P.S You won't get banned, we've dealt with far more meaner people. But your attitude walks a fine line. This is not a cult. It's a website, you leave whenever you decide, and everybody fights occasionally. It's not always love and light. Oh well that's life!


BTW, I am a Pisces if you're wondering!

-StarLover

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Shizuka
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posted November 15, 2003 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizuka     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Succubus,

A persona is not an identity. Behind the persona is something much more interesting and divine, if you care to find it.

Sh

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Randall
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posted November 16, 2003 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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SunShyne
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posted November 17, 2003 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunShyne     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to Lindaland, Shizuka!

Succubus, you're not going to be banned for *threatening* anyone's beliefs, silly, but you might be for your dreadful table manners.
Stick with the blood, honey, you obviously don't handle pea soup very well. *lol*


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Shizuka
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posted November 17, 2003 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizuka     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, Starlover, Randall, and Sunshyne!

Thank you all for the warm welcome.

I'm a musician. One of my all-time favourite songs is Amazing Grace. May I have everyone's ears please? I'm going to sing:

Amaaaaazing Grace! How sweeeeet the sound! That saaaved a (w)RETCH, like meeeeeee!!!!!!

Sh

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posted November 17, 2003 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetpeas     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

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An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind. Gandhi

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SunShyne
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posted November 18, 2003 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunShyne     Edit/Delete Message
Cool! What instrument do you play, Shizuka? I'm fascinated by the guitar and the flute. And oh yes, the violin.


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Shizuka
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posted November 18, 2003 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizuka     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sunshyne,

I play guitar, flute, piano . . . basically I'll pick out a tune on any old thing you put in front of me

What kind of music do you like?

Sh

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Shizuka
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posted November 18, 2003 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizuka     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sweetpeas,

Boy, it's so nice and friendly here! I really like all the names that people choose for themselves -- though I am not a child, I must admit, I never got over "cute" things.

I'm waiting for the day that there is a man who is secure enough in his womanhood to call himself FuzzBuzz, he he. Just kidding

Sh

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juniperb
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posted November 18, 2003 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Shizuks and welcome

I feel as tho I k-now your Elf

Amazing Grace is one of my favorite hyms too. In particular :

When we've been here ten thousand years...
bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise...
then when we've first begun.

juniperb

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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Meili Zhiwei
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posted November 28, 2003 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meili Zhiwei     Edit/Delete Message
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dafremen
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posted November 29, 2003 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dafremen     Edit/Delete Message
And now, dear Friend Meili, it is my turn to thank you, for this most enlightening explanation. Nothing. Is it then that the dragon has consumed to a point of balance? A point at which more remains to be consumed, but there is no immediate hunger for consumption? Is this the pause before the first "digestion period"?

Secondly, where, in the three scenerios which you present, does our friend from the elevenation site fit in? The first one, misuke misaka? The difference between this one and that one must be too subtle for my untrained eye to pick up on. Please help me to understand. Thank you again.

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Meili Zhiwei
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posted November 30, 2003 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meili Zhiwei     Edit/Delete Message
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posted November 30, 2003 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dafremen     Edit/Delete Message
Dearest Friend Meili,

You did that just for the smile you knew it would evoke...didn't you? Message received, and once again, you demonstrate why the stars spoke so highly of your abilities.

Your friend and brother,

daf

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RAINBOW WARRIOR
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posted February 06, 2005 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RAINBOW WARRIOR     Edit/Delete Message
kiakaha(stand up be strong),

IF ITS ATTENTION (energy,blood whatever..
THAT YOU SEEK,
TAKE MINE FREELY.
THE MOUNTAINS
STREAMS & RIVER,
SUPPLY ME WITH
ENOUGH.

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LOVE*PEACE&RESPECT

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Randall
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posted February 07, 2005 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

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