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Topic: Immortality And The Planets!
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Randall
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posted November 22, 2000 10:24 AM
 
What does astrology and One's natal chart mean for Immortals? The Nodes are still important, but what about the rest of the chart? If you don't Mind it, does it matter?  ------------------
"The important thing is this: to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become." Charles Dubois IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 07, 2000 02:03 AM
Or perhaps, immortality can be chosen BEFORE birth and can be depicted in One's natal chart?  ------------------
"and the Mind will, through the Brain .. restore the memory
of the former Body Temple identity to the newly-discovered one
until finally, he or she will recall all which passed before and this will be verified by the recollection of many incidents and phrases
many so-called fragments .. which no one else could have known" Linda Goodman in Gooberz, page 946 IP: Logged |
YIVY
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posted December 07, 2000 07:32 PM
Just what aspects of a chart would indicate Immortality?  
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gooberlily
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posted December 07, 2000 09:26 PM
Good question YIVY, I'm curious also.  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 07, 2000 10:56 PM
Unfortunately, there are no sure-fire indicators in a natal chart, but there are some hints that mean One chose this Lifetime for either a rescue, immortality, or Nirvana (last Lifetime in the physical plane). An empty 12th House is a powerful indicator. So is a House with four or more Planets close to each other in Degrees (the more the merrier--and stonger the indicator). Lastly, most of the Planets clustered in a single Hemisphere (one quarter Hemisphere) is a very strong indicator. All of these indicators show a very special Mission for the Soul, which COULD be immortality and/or the helping of Earth School to make the transition as we accept immortality into our mass Consciousness. Of course, this is not to say that if you lack any or all of these, that you cannot still make a significant impact, that you cannot still make this your last Lifetime (Thunderbolt Path Of Accelerated Karma), or that you cannot still choose immortality. Free-will Tinker Toys are fantastic, huh!?! ------------------
"and the Mind will, through the Brain .. restore the memory
of the former Body Temple identity to the newly-discovered one
until finally, he or she will recall all which passed before and this will be verified by the recollection of many incidents and phrases
many so-called fragments .. which no one else could have known" Linda Goodman in Gooberz, page 946 IP: Logged |
gooberlily
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posted December 09, 2000 02:17 AM
Great work Randall! Very interesting!IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 09, 2000 11:40 AM
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"and the Mind will, through the Brain .. restore the memory
of the former Body Temple identity to the newly-discovered one
until finally, he or she will recall all which passed before and this will be verified by the recollection of many incidents and phrases
many so-called fragments .. which no one else could have known" Linda Goodman in Gooberz, page 946 IP: Logged |
YIVY
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posted December 09, 2000 06:18 PM
Drat! Now I am curious. Have to get my chart out and check to see if I had this planned all along. ------------------
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YIVY
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posted December 17, 2000 12:44 AM
Well well well...I don't have a single solitary indicator in my chart...must mean my FREE WILL is stronger than I thought  Or, maybe it is not MY chart any longer and belongs to "someone else". Poor kid, sure hope she is OK where ever she is...I will send her warm thoughs and white light. Here's to the NEW ME.. 
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Randall
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posted December 17, 2000 04:13 PM
Free-will is the One ingredient that overrides all else! Of course, it can also bring death (reverse polarity) in Light of having even ALL the indicators. Long Live the Immortals...  ------------------
"and the Mind will, through the Brain .. restore the memory
of the former Body Temple identity to the newly-discovered one
until finally, he or she will recall all which passed before and this will be verified by the recollection of many incidents and phrases
many so-called fragments .. which no one else could have known" Linda Goodman in Gooberz, page 946 IP: Logged |
financechick
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posted March 04, 2001 05:06 PM
so wait...am I immortal or am I not?? my 12th house is empty and everything is pretty much on the right(2nd and 3rd qtr if you divide the wheel into 4ths) side accept for jupiter and my ascendant which are both in the first house with sign pices.(my 2nd, 3rd,4th, 11th and 10th houses are empty as well).  what does it all mean?? Does this mean I chose to come for a very specific reason?? IP: Logged |
financechick
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posted March 04, 2001 08:04 PM
PL...thanks!!! When I read on the other thread that an empty 12th house meant that this was your last lifetime..I was a bit sad but if I can choose immortality, then that's what I'll choose.This stuff is quite interesting and uplifting! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 07, 2001 01:45 PM
The natal chart merely indicates a pre-Life choice, but due to Free-will, any of us can choose immortality (although few will anytime soon). Forget your chart, and live your Life...forever. ------------------
Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round? Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines. Chris Angelino IP: Logged |
Sara
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From: Madrid,Spain,Europe
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posted August 30, 2001 08:47 AM
Till I was 6 years old, I thought people only died when they were veryyyy old and cause they choose it.
I was in a nun's school and, someday, one of the sisters came to our class to talk us about children who died because cancer, starvation, etc. She told us "yes, God's plans take these children away and someday it will happen to all of you..." (one year later my mother take my sister and I off that school). But since that moment I begun to don't understand things. That was for me the "terrible reality of my olders world". So when I read Linda's Star Sings that little voice that was "shuted up" came out again...I've been looking my chart and I have Jupiter in my 12th house, and nearly all the planets in the right lower cuadrant of the chart...perhaps I'd made an election before I was born, and it's now, when I read your writtings when I, finally, UNDER-STAND!
That's great!Isn't it?
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YIVY
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From: Louisiana
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posted August 30, 2001 11:43 PM
Oh, Sara...it is sad how the world 'shuts up' that little voice inside children...  How precious is the 'gift' Linda Goodman gave us. The courage to listen again to that 'little voice'.   ------------------
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posted August 31, 2001 12:36 AM
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Morning Storm
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted September 01, 2001 03:30 PM
Randall,I guess I have to ask why an empty 12th would be a powerful indicator. The 12th house represents true spirituality. It's part of your psyche that contains the past and where you are one with all. It seems like people with a stellium in the 12th would be more likely to tap into that and use it for a special Soul mission because they are closely connected with it. We have a spiritual awareness that most don't have a clue to understanding. It also seems a stellium in the 11th would be an indicator. The 11th is naturally ruled by Aquarius and Uranus, which both represent the future. Just my opinion and I've only thought about it for about it for about five minutes but it only makes 6th sense to me. Love and light,
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Randall
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posted September 01, 2001 06:49 PM
I agree about the stellium in the 11th. There are probably other indicators as well. An empty 12th indicates no need to work on One's Spirituality (but One can still fall, at which time a Soul Rescue may take place). Of course, even empty Houses still have Rulers. The 12th House also Rules Lessons brought back from previous Lifetimes, and an empty 12th can indicate a balancing of scales. Of course, the term LAST Lifetime is relative (pun intended) due to illusory time.  ------------------
Remember, love can conquer the influence of the planets....
It can even eliminate karma." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Morning Storm
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posted September 01, 2001 07:55 PM
That is the old school of astrology and I beLIeVE it can also be those with a strong 12th house is in closer touch with their spirituality, and not need to balance anything from the past. We choose what we need in this life. Sometimes those needs are based upon needs from past lives and sometimes they're not....  Love and light,
~Auriel ------------------
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Randall
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posted September 01, 2001 08:11 PM
I concur. There are no absolutes. ------------------
Remember, love can conquer the influence of the planets....
It can even eliminate karma." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
sahana_22
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From: new delhi, india
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posted September 04, 2001 06:39 AM
Randall, Auriel,
I have Pluto and Uranus in my 12th House. I have four planets each in my 1st and my 4th Quadrant.
What does it mean? Too many Karmic responsibilities......??
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Morning Storm
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posted September 04, 2001 07:14 AM
Sahana,If you give me your birth data, I can look at it for you. Love and light,
~Auriel ------------------
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sahana_22
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posted September 05, 2001 03:51 AM
Sure Auriel, Here is my birth data-
Date - 22nd Oct 1967
Place - New Delhi, India.
Time - 5:22 A.M
Thanks a lot
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Morning Storm
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted September 06, 2001 08:25 AM
Sahana,You have Uranus and Pluto in your 12th and the Sun and South Node in your 1st (you should ask Randall about that tight Sun/South Node conjunction in your 1st.) The Uranus and Pluto in your 12th house gives you what you're looking for with that deep spiritual connection to yoursELF. Pluto in the 12th can raise your awareness and can be very intuitive. Don't let that Virgo on your 12th house cusp hold you back. Follow your instincts and don't trip over them. Uranus in the 12th is one of my favorite placements. It'll give you flashes of insight and you just know things somehow. You should write them down because they'll be gone as quickly as they are there. You could probably learn to read past lives very easily if you keep that Virgo doubt in control. With these placements, you should meditate and picture white light pouring into your 3rd eye and you'll be amazed at what you understand. Yoga would be good for you too. I think having your Venus and Jupiter in your 11th house will help you too. The 11th is ruled by Aquarius naturally and that represents the future. Jupiter, the planet of expansion HAS to be helpful there with immortality. Plus, in your chart, it's ruled by Leo so you will shine with your future.  Well, hope that helps. Love and light,
~Auriel BTW, you do have a Grand Trine in your chart with Jupiter, North Node and Mars. ------------------
I guess because it’s about a man who loves a woman so much
that he knows, without being told..how she feels
what makes her hurt and ache inside
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Randall
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posted September 07, 2001 04:45 AM
What Auriel said. ------------------
Remember, love can conquer the influence of the planets....
It can even eliminate karma." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
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