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Elohim
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posted March 08, 2002 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
< Encouraged by the prof's frown, chuckles to himself, and pounces again ~ >

And, if Sun doesn't fall, why does it rise?

< High-fives thegreyone >

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Elohim
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posted March 08, 2002 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
< After the class ... >

Raj,

I didn't think Princess and VR were insulting you in any way. They were just having fun, and what is wrong with that?

I feel you felt bad because you take yourself very seriously. I was also like you, as a child. While playing, used to beat up my younger brother if he didn't play 'seriously'. Imagine that ~ "play seriously"!!! Is it reasonable to expect?

We are here all laughing and sharing and spreading joy. If we were 'serious', this site will not have the energy it has. You may not even like being here, then.

It is when we are joyous that we are the most compassionate. We can only give out what we have within. If I am not in joy, I cannot bring joy to another. I am sure you understand.

I am sorry if I offended you again, but somehow I feel you will not be angry at me!

Come, let's dance!


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Elohim
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posted March 08, 2002 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
< After the class ... >

Raj,

I didn't think Princess and VR were insulting you in any way. They were just having fun, and what is wrong with that?

I feel you felt bad because you take yourself very seriously. I was also like you, as a child. While playing, used to beat up my younger brother if he didn't play 'seriously'. Imagine that ~ "play seriously"!!! Is it reasonable to expect?

We are here all laughing and sharing and spreading joy. If we were 'serious', this site will not have the energy it has. You may not even like being here, then.

It is when we are joyous that we are the most compassionate. We can only give out what we have within. If I am not in joy, I cannot bring joy to another. I am sure you understand.

I am sorry if I offended you again, but somehow I feel you will not be angry at me!

Come, let's dance!


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Love and Light.

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Elohim
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posted March 08, 2002 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
HICCUP! Must be all that -ing !

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Princess
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posted March 08, 2002 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess     Edit/Delete Message
Elohim~ You cracked me up !

Raj~

~Princess

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"I think the Goddess lives in our humanity, and not anywhere else."
~Merlin's last words - to Viviann ~ . + * + . * . Mists of Avalon . + * + . * . ~

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Virgo Rising
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posted March 08, 2002 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo Rising     Edit/Delete Message
What Princess said!!!

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raj_105_2001
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posted March 09, 2002 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
By its very nature, Night is associated with fall. Night always falls. It doesn't rise or set. Night is part of the negativity.

Sun rises because it falls, the reason why it fell after creation was, the fall of earth beings, and the reason for the fall was the mind, that became set into certain patterns. Or it is the other way round, the sunfall disrupted the flow of energies, during when human beings found it more easy to be set into specific patterns. So our forefathers, decided to call it Sunset rather than Sunfall, so that the future might remember what had happened.

Often the most joyous people have experienced the greatest sorrows. It follows from the natural law, that, to experience one form of reality, we will have to experience also its opposite. Once we know what the negative is like, we are free to explore the positive. The same is true of the positive. Trouble starts when we refuse to accept one form and exclusively focus on the other.

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You are endless galaxies, you have seen but one star

- Linda Goodman, Sun Signs

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Elohim
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posted March 09, 2002 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
Prof. Raj,

Please give yourself full credit for trying!

I would like to discuss one point you made ~ that we should experience both positivity and negativity.

Yes, experience of the negative is neccessary for completely understanding the positive, and also the other way round. However, I feel there comes a time when you have to say, "Enough! I have had enough of sorrows, and I am not going to take any more of them! I will find out what ails my life, and I will heal it."

This is the point when we begin our spiritual journey, trying to know more about life. The more we progress in wisdom, the more control we gain over our lives. Things become smoother ...

Eventually, we gain mastery over ourselves. Nothing troubles us anymore. The adage "As above, so below" also works the other way round ~ "As within, so without". So, at this stage, our lives also become very easy, and hardly anything happens that can cause us sorrow. So finally, we become free of sorrow.

I will give a personal example ~ mine. Four years ago, I learned 2nd degree Reiki. At that time, my teacher said, "If you practice it regularly, you will soon experience causeless joy." And was he right!

I did practiced Reiki regularly. One day, about a month after learning it, I began to gently laugh in the middle of a healing session, all by myself. It didn't feel odd at all ~ I was bursting with happiness from within. I didn't try to supress the laughter. I asked myself, "Why am I happy?". Immediately, a voice (my Higher sElf) spoke in my inner ear, "Because there is no reason to be sad".

I have related my experience here because I want to smash the belief that sadness is an integral part of life.

We have a choice. We can heal ourselves and our lives. It is possible to be completely joyous, without even a trace of negativity.

Think about it ~ if death can be conquered, why not sorrow? It can be.

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raj_105_2001
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posted March 09, 2002 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
Negativity is a concept. It is not real. The other name for Positive is Natural (Even in mathematics, Positive numbers are otherwise known as Natural numbers). Whatever positive is what is real. A fall is not really a fall. A fall occurs so that there can be a higher rise. A better reality than which existed before the fall.

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You are endless galaxies, you have seen but one star

- Linda Goodman, Sun Signs

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Elohim
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posted March 11, 2002 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with this. These are wise words.

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JAH
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posted March 21, 2002 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAH     Edit/Delete Message
You guys are too much, sorry to burst your bubbles but .......I remember reading in Love Signs that sunSET has to do with the Egyptian God SET.

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Elohim
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posted March 22, 2002 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
I am all for bubble-bursting!

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Spiritua
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posted March 22, 2002 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spiritua     Edit/Delete Message
...as long as we end up with the truth.

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aquacvp
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posted June 02, 2002 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquacvp     Edit/Delete Message
I think , Sun is source of life just not to Earth but other planets/heavenly bodies as
well and provides the light to survive not just for earth but somewhere esle also.
After providing the daily dose of nourishment to earth, I suppose it sets its divine eyes on other cosmic bodies. So it is Sunset and not Sunfall

Cheers,
AquaCVP

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Randall
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posted June 02, 2002 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome, Aqua!

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"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot

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goatgirl
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posted July 23, 2002 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatgirl     Edit/Delete Message
I wasn't sure if anyone had done the numerological meanings of SUNset/SUNfall
oh and what about SUNrise? number for sunset is 26=8 sunfall is 29=11(then do you reduce to 2? I can't remember for sure) sunrise is 25=7.

Here is a lexi that I did with the letters(AT 3 AM THIS MORNING, THE WORD DRUIDS WERE BEING GOOFY)

AEEIUUU
FLLNNRSSSSST

USE SUN TO UN-SET FALL
RISE TO SEE the SUN IN U
TELL SET SEE U LATER
U FILL the REST
I'LL SEE U LATER

ELF STARS FLEE SETS LIES
U ARE AN ELF
U ARE A STAR
U ARE the SUN IN U, SEE?

RUN SET RUN
RUN FAR SET
SET ISN'T FAIR to U STAR ELF
SET ISN'T A STAR
SET ISN'T AN ELF
SET ISN'T IN U, U SEE?

SET FELL
SET TIRES
A TISSUE to SET
FLEE SET FLEE
LIFT A STAR ELF to SEE SET RUN and FLEE

A LASTIN SUN
STIR URSELF to SEE THE SUN IN U
SET'S STUNTS FALL FLATIN STARS and ELF
SET FEELS FLAT

I know there is more, but for now, thinking material. Please feel free to give it a whack.

Amanda

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There comes a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part, you can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies on the gears, and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus. And you've got to make it stop.

Mario Savio

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