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Vampire Angel
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posted April 21, 2002 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vampire Angel     Edit/Delete Message
Although personally, I opt for physical immortality myself, (hence the 'vampire' nic--hehe) I'm curious to the rest of your opinions. Why immortality in the physical sense? Aren't our souls immortal anyway, and when we die we will be in a much happier place? I suppose that might not apply if you believe in reincarnation, and that our souls are just going to get reborn into different bodies every time our old, tired flesh gives away, but what if you're a believer of Heaven and Hell and would much rather have your soul at rest and at peace, away from the purgatory of life, rather than existing inside the same flesh for centuries and centuries unending?

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Enrique
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posted April 26, 2002 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enrique     Edit/Delete Message
This world is the reason of inmortality!

We need to be inmortal to transform the world

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Randall
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posted July 11, 2002 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
How did I miss this string the first time around? To the top!

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"He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love." Martin Luther King, Jr.

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StarLover33
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posted July 11, 2002 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
What about Hell where does that fit in the picture? If God is all good and forgiving, why is there a hell?

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Randall
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posted July 11, 2002 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Who said there was a hell?

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"He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love." Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Miracle
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posted July 15, 2002 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miracle     Edit/Delete Message
Randall! My words exactly!!!

Have you heard about the fighting which is going on behind the scenes in the Vatican for the new pope? In the past the cardinals would usually poison the pope when he became "too old" (whatever that means, I don't know), but they are much more sophisticated now. They're torturing John Paul II with a combination of his Alzhaimers dis-ease (karmikally, being the head of the Vatican is surely not very healthy) and heavy daily duties... poor thing. Lots of angels and healing light his way...

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Randall
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posted July 16, 2002 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Poor Pope.

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Enrique
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posted July 16, 2002 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enrique     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah! Light to the Pope!


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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 19, 2002 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
"Poor pope"?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Any problems or underming that he is experiencing could have been and still could be stoped by him. Its his direct fault {along with his predecesr} that the "Book of Enox " and other necesary testiments are still kept very hidden from the masses. Mean while he keeps them safe and hidden while he literaly sits on them??? Any turmoil taking place in the "catholic hierarcky/government" is well eaarned and deserved. Since he is in charge it is his fault and problem that the whole faith has -no faith-. He could bring an end to the problems{especialy the current events with the pedifile preist's} of the church any time he chooses.

If he doesnt make rite for all of the wrongs commited by the church{wich would not only turn around the cathlic churches fate ,but all other chritian bassed reiligions as well} by the time my musical/Magickal career is going I will dedicate one of my first albaums to revealling his nad his churches wrongs to the public. I will do as much reaserch as I can get my hands on, as much evidence that I can find, and use all of it to expose him for the mortal minded charleton he realy is.

If any thing in the book of Revelation is true and is soon on its way to being unfolded it would certainly be the profacies of the christians being persecuted. And with current events the churches leaders arent doing much to help stop this. If any thing their just assisting the propaganda filled media/press and worlds governments in having an argument to stop the freedom of peaple to worship the christian faith.- I dont agree with any of the organized christian religions views on most things. But I do believe they should always have their choice of free will to follow what ever they wish. And if some body doesnt do something soon to help they very well may be the first to loose their rites to their beliefs. Once again no one mortal human on this earth could do more to help these rites of freedom of religion at this time more than the pope him self.{and yes I didnt capitalize his name for a reason,when he starts acting as a caring leader in stead of a weak willed pollitician,-then and only then will I be able to give him recognician.}


p.s.-If I offended any one here, I am sorry, that is not my intent. Its just that the TRUTH is the TRUTH.- If you dont want to believe or hear what I say then dont. If you want to question my point of veiw in this matter then good. Question it. Even if you do share my view you should question what I say. Everyone should do NOTHING LESS than seek the TRUTH for them sELFS!!!

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eternal
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posted July 20, 2002 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eternal     Edit/Delete Message
Why Immortality?
Well, why not?

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Randall
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posted July 20, 2002 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
What Eternal said!

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Miracle
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posted July 23, 2002 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miracle     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, Magus, excellent point. I agree with you.

But I still feel sorry for him.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 23, 2002 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
MIRACLE- I do forgive him for what he has done{or not done},after all he does still have time to reedeem him self.

I was wondering if I had gone off on a bit of a rant in that last post. Its just that he has been a subject that Ive taken alot of passion to as far back as I can remember.

As far as THE BOOK of EENOX goes, does any one know where I could find atleast the few bits of it copied before it was hidden from us?

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juniperb
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posted July 23, 2002 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
MAGUS,If your interested in research of the church, a must read is "Pope Joan" .I believe it`s authored by Elaine Pagel (would have to look to be certain tho). Fiction BUT backed by some excellent credible evidence!
Let me know what you think if you read it!!!

Peace & Lite juniperb

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Randall
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posted July 24, 2002 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Who's the author? Sounds quite interesting.

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juniperb
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posted July 24, 2002 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
MAGUS & RANDALL my apologizies

I listed the WRONG author!!

Pope Joan is written by Donna Woolfolk Cross. Published by Ballantine : ISBN 0-345-41626-0. A MUST read if interested in the papacy & background of the early Catholic church. If you read it ( & I encourage it) please share your thoughts!!

Elaine H Pagel wrote The Gnostic Gospels. Another wonderful book of insight!!

Peace, juniperb


p.s. YES, a woman Pope!!!! I would the lexers to lexigram "a woman pope"

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 24, 2002 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
Juniper- Thanks,as soon as I get a payvheck from this new job Ill have to put that on my list of things to get. In the book do they list the things that are fact from fiction?

A women pope? Maybe thats what it would take to get someone in the church that has the nerve to be a real leader of souls instead of a fascadeing politician!!!

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juniperb
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posted July 24, 2002 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Magus, The book is historical fact. She just took the liberty to fill in the unknowns much like a movie "based" on an actual event.
She also gives great detail ( at the end) to support her facts & references.

Titillating tidbit: The church has a chair ( it looks like an adult potty chair) with a hole in the seat. It is called a 'sella stercoraria' It`s purpose?? A chair exam to insure the incomming pope WAS a man. The church does not deny the chair exists & says it was used soley for it`s ornate beauty. Woolfolk includes a picture of said chair!!

You need to read it & draw your own conclusions. BUT do try the library first! A free book is better than waiting & with the above post info you can get it.

Peace, juniperb

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 24, 2002 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
Juniper-True, reading books for free is more practical and lighter on the wallet. Its just that beetween books and albaums I Love to collect. Especialy when its a book I realy like. You should see my esoteric and fantasy fiction section on my shelf. With most material posesions I could care less, but when it comes to my books and music I cant help but feel happy when I see my library siting on the shelf!

Besides, being an Aqarian- what do I know about being practical?!

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Enrique
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posted July 24, 2002 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enrique     Edit/Delete Message
How...sad...it's true that the pope has done all those things but..., I still feel sorry for him..., because he's kind


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posted July 25, 2002 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting chair, Juniperb!

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Miracle
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posted July 25, 2002 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miracle     Edit/Delete Message
Magus,

Another article in Italian papers appeared today to say that John Paul II cannot walk up and down the steps any more. But in order to torture him cardinals are making him walk down the steps of a Boeing 747 in Calgary, Canada. The worst thing is that in their press releases The Vatican is saying that it's the pope's own wish to walk down the steps!?!? How cruel is that? The cardinals are just pushing him to the limits.

My God, how long is this crazy Vatican cabaret stage show going to go on for?

Darling Enrique, the pope may appear kind but appearances may be deceiving.


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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 25, 2002 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
Miracle- Im not sure if at heart he is or isnt a nice sweet guy{Im guesing he is a nice cowerdly fool,as with many mortals}. But if these cruel and twisted Cardinals are to be the runners up for his replacement ,I dont even want to know what kind of slime will be the next pope.

Who knows, at this rate they might be giving me all kinds of fun controversy to put into my musical symphony about the Vatican!!! Atleast their making it a project thatl be worth my time.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted August 09, 2002 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for QueenofSheeba     Edit/Delete Message
It's not that my life is bad-it's actually very good,in a boring way-but even though immortality sounds pretty cool,I can't wait to get back to heaven.I think that's where I came from,and I feel homesick.Let's dump the Karma as soon as possible and split.

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Miracle
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posted August 11, 2002 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miracle     Edit/Delete Message
Queen of Sheeba...

I believe the ONLY thing we really ever OWN is our karma. It is ours and with us forever, good or bad the choice is ours.

Miracle

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