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Pisces Moon
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posted May 06, 2002 08:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Okay, here is a really nosy question.

From comments I've heard from Randall, some Immortals who choose to be open and frank about their Immortality, can cop some flak and get hostile comments from friends and colleagues.

So what is it like in close relationships? Do all the Immortals have the full knowledge and support from their spouse or partner? Have you had problems explaining it to your significant other? Has it made a difference to the relationship? Has it stopped new relationships from forming?

I promise I'm not asking this just out of idle curiosity.

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Randall
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posted May 06, 2002 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
It's caused me some real problems. I usually just keep my mouth shut and try to blend in.

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Infinity
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posted May 06, 2002 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Pisces Moon,
Hello! I am extremely lucky in that I have found my Twin, and he is also Immortal! As for my friends and family, I get mixed results. They mostly take it (me) with a shrug. Ten years ago, when I announced that I was vegetarian and would no longer be eating animals, half of them thought I was going through a "faze" which I would someday out grow. The other half became vegetarian shortly after me! Now, I have one sister who I think is a little lost. She thinks she is a vampire and therefore, Immortal. I think she has it wrong, but then again, that is only my thoughts!!!

Peace,
Infinity...

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Grasshopper
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posted May 06, 2002 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Do I say I'm immortal? No, not really. But 401 seems to be the age when people ask. Some of them think I'm joking. Some of them think I don't want to tell my "real" age. And some of them think I need to stop lying into my son. "Dad? You're 401? That's really old."

Oh, well.

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posted May 07, 2002 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
In my Education classes, I received the same type of rejection when I spoke out against the drugging ADHD children. The term for this is Cognitive Dissonance. People automatically reject any ideas that are contrary to their world schemas.

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Grasshopper
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posted May 07, 2002 06:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message
All right, Randall, I reccomend the following.

You get a box, and fill it with the most dreary landscaping you can. Something along the lines of a baren wasteland. You know, cracked earth, something to represent rotted tree trunks and things like that. Just for fun, fill it with a few pieces of broken glass (colored of course to give it some aesthetic quality) and then. . . . . fill up the "landscape" withs lots of LEGO people.

With me so far?

Now, get another LEGO and put it outside the box (this LEGO is you). But yourself a little Hyacinth plant (yes, yes, you'll have to water it) and a fake orange (for maintenance reasons), and put this next to the box. Now the LEGO that is you has a home.

Why do this? So, you can always look at it and KNOW. And someone comes up to you and asks you what that is, you can just tell them, "It's art."

And when they come back and ask you what it's all about, you can say, "It's about the alternatives of thinking outside the box. Would you pardon me, I need to water my Hyacinth."

And when they come back a third time and ask about thinking outside the box in what way. . . well, there's something magical about someone asking you Three questions, so let him in. It doesn't really matter what he thinks after that, since you make this little sculpture for yoursElf, anyway.

Hmmm. . . you know. . . this idea came to me in a flash after reading your last post. I'm going to do this!!!!

And if any of you Knowflakes walk by and happen to see this, feel free to drop an Orange in front of the Hyacinth so Randall and I know who you are!

You're going to do it, too, right Randall? Randall? Randall, why are you hiding over there FAR away from me? You don't like my idea? Randall? Oh, c'monnnn, Randall, don't run!!

That's IT! You're going inside the box!

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Pisces Moon
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posted May 07, 2002 09:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Grasshopper, LOL I love that

I seem to have been so worried about offending people that I actually wasn't very clear.

What I really meant was how it had affected your marriage (or life companionship) partner.

Infinity, did you and your Twin embark on Immortality together, or were you both Immortals before you met?

Is it possible to become an Immortal if your spouse is not an Immortal? Can the relationship survive in any meaningful way?

Has anyone convinced a sceptical spouse to join you as an Immortal?

Has anyone lost a spouse through their decision to become Immortal?

Have single Immortals been able to form a love relationship with someone new? Has a new relationship faltered when you told them you were Immortal?

And what do you tell your children, if anything?

See, I really am being very nosy!

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posted May 07, 2002 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I've lost potential relationships early on by revealing this. Also by stating my philosophy against vaccinations. So, yes, it has been a problem.

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Infinity
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posted May 07, 2002 10:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Pisces Moon,

I don't think you are being nosey at all! That is what Indigos do, we ask WHY, WHY, WHY! I also do not mind sharing my story! Most of what you are asking has been my experience. No, my Twin and I were not Immortal when we met, although I was already on the path that has led me to Immortality. It was quite a different story with my Twin, however, and some here (Randall, YIVY, Dan) will remember when I first started posting over on EndlessPath. He was closed-minded, brain-washed, and way too religious. I very nearly left him back then. But, then, he went onto EndlessPath, curious as to what I was posting there, and much to his dismay, he saw how close I was to letting him go. He made it his mission to change, and he has come so far! He decided to be Immortal with me because he never wants to lose me! He is truly an He still struggles with some things, but, like I said, he has come so far, and I have infinite patience for my Twin to catch up. After all, I did have a ten year head-start over him! If this brings up any more questions, please ask! I will be happy to answer! Oh, and as to what I tell my children... I tell them the TRuth, ALways! They understand everything!

Namaste,
Infinity...


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Soma
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posted May 07, 2002 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Well ...........if it is brought up I will sometimes mention that i plan on living forever.......it gets a little chuckle. Usually i just try to keep my mouth shut and blend in as Randell said. My husband would not understand......he would say it is physically impossible and then he would proceed in telling me why.

~Soma~

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YIVY
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posted May 08, 2002 01:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Know where you are coming from, Soma

I have told my children, but no one else in my family. I tried, but kept getting these blank looks. I figure they will start guessing something is going on in about 20 years....then we shall see

Grasshopper...That idea is just strange enough to work

Infinity

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Pisces Moon
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posted May 08, 2002 06:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for sharing your stories.

Infinity, what an amazing and inspiring story for all who love!

I am surprised and sad that some Immortals haven't told their partner. That sounds very hard and lonely, having to censor yourself. I can't quite imagine it.

Blessings to you all. You've given me something to ponder.

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Caileah
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posted May 08, 2002 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message
My husband is pretty metaphysically open minded and is all for it, so I don't have to worry about that, thank God/dess... I agree PiscesMoon, that would be a total drag having to censor yourself around your mate... well, frankly, it would be very difficult for me to censor myself around anyone

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Virgo Rising
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posted May 08, 2002 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Caileah....censored?

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Pisces Moon
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posted May 09, 2002 12:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Caileah - I can't be censored either!

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Vampire Angel
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posted May 13, 2002 08:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Infinity, I want to meet your sister! Finally who wants to join the vampire race along with me!

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Caileah
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posted May 14, 2002 01:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message
VirgoRising, look who's talking

PiscesMoon

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posted May 15, 2002 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Vampires are people, too!

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted May 18, 2002 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh God....

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And in the land of star-crossed lovers
And barren hearted wanderers
Forever lost in forsaken missives and satan's pull
We seek the unseekable and we speak the unspeakable
Our hopes dead gathering dust to dust
In faith, in compassion, and in love

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Vampire Angel
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posted May 20, 2002 02:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Vampires aren't PEOPLE in the literal term of the word, but I think they have every right to co-exist along with us mortals. One of these days, it's off to New Orleans with me in search of a lonely vampire to join me in my solitude!

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Infinity
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posted May 22, 2002 04:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Vampire Angel,
I know my sister has e-mail through a site called Neo-vampire, or something very similar to that, and that she goes by Jade there. I should get her to go on here... she could really be helped through her confusion and pain by all the Knowflakes here. She was severly and consistently sexually abused from a very young age, and she is so sad and lost now. She is searching, longing for something to make sense in her life. She has not been able to cope with this and suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrom. My heart goes out to her every day.


Infinity

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posted May 26, 2002 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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posted May 27, 2002 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
By all means, invite her over!

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