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dafremen
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posted November 25, 2003 01:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message
The Awakener..Great Earth Changes..11:11..the New World Order. Some of you are familiar with these terms, some of you are not. Some of you have had a passing interest in one or the other. Some of you have sensed the very real urgency of the coming changes. Some of you are still blissfully oblivious to the warnings in the air around you.

Let's clear a misconceptions out of the way, right off the bat. The world is NOT going to end any time soon. Anyone that tells you that it is has been misinformed. The end of the world scenerio was based on a selective translation of a phrase that was meant to be read, "End of the Age." We are fast approaching that point in the history of the evolution of the human race. Make no mistake about it, things are going to be changing very drastically in a relatively short period of time. This is not a drill, this is not the Y2K scare of 2000. This is real, the signs are all around, and if you have any doubt as to the validity of this claim, just ask around. Start asking, start looking and start wondering. Ask around about the feelings that so many of you are getting about the waters. The uncomfortable feeling that something is wrong and that something is right. The feeling that horrible things are about to precede amazing times. Ask around, you'll be surprised at how many others have felt it.

Water is coming. The strong and unpredictable monsoon rains of Aquarius are bearing down upon us. You do not know the moment, nor do I, but know this: they come. In ancient days, these were the waters that led our ancestors to dub the Aquarius time of year "the Water Bearer." Those things without a strong foundation were swept away; those things not of solid build were washed away by Aquarius' cleansing storm. Those waters are headed this way. You can doubt, you can believe, you can do what you will, but they will not be stopped. All you can do is prepare yourselves for the trials to come..prepare to be stunned and amazed.

When we speak of water, it is meant exactly that..water, and lots of it. I personally have felt this water coming for the last 5 years. I ignored the feeling that told me to run, told me that there was a message to be spread. Ignored my intuition in favor of my nice house, my great job, and lost it all on the 11th of June. My house was wiped out by a flood in 2000. The closer I got to Chicago, the more intense this feeling became. Nothing would keep me there. Left the new job 3 days later in favor of one 220 miles south.

Unbeknownst to me, my daughter had been dreaming of the water for 2 years at that time. She never mentioned it, because she thought that they were just dreams. We found out about it quite by accident. You can read about her dreams and my impression under Yellow Wax and the Ants. They were written as a series of "fictional" stories called Dreams of the False Prophet. (Calling oneself a real "Prophet" would be a bit presumptuous, don't you think?) In these dreams, there are a series of islands where southern California used to be. Other areas of the country, might be flooded, but California is the most devastated, this I've felt. The mountain top I'm now living on is one of these islands in her dreams..God willing.

It isn't just us, though. Many people are having these impressions and dreams. Thousands and thousands of people. Maybe even some of you have been feeling something strange. Don't doubt those feelings. To doubt your intuition is to ignore the sound of your spirit screaming for it's very survival, spurring you on to your destiny. These floods will preceed a new time in human evolution, the end of the reign of Material (Wo)Man and the beginning of the reign of Spiritual (Wo)Man. That is the significance of the number 11, here in this Age of Aquarius.

Astrologers have had another name for the 11th sign and the 11th house which it rules, as well as the 7th planet, Neptune. "The Awakener." Indeed, we have been fortunate in this century to have been awakened to many of the truths behind the illusion of material existence. We understand the nature of matter, to some extent, yet its true nature has always remained just out of the grasp of our sleeping consciousness. The nature of our waking illusion is clear to science, and yet we continue to look upon the illusion as though it were reality. In fact, science has simply side stepped its own explanation of this illusion in a vain attempt to make real, that which it's mind has always perceived as real, rather than admit that it has discovered the enormous flaw in its current course of evolution.

Too bad. The reality is what it is, and the illusion is there for the ego to bask in and wonder at like some sort of hologram for the sleeping intellect. There is nothing but light. Some of it free, some of it trapped(matter.) Until those who have not come to some terms with God, and the reality of our Creator's existence cease to deny that existence, they will remain trapped, they belong to the matter and to the matter they will return.

11 is the number of the Awakener, and much as the sight of those mighty 11-shaped towers crumbling in New York City on September 11th, awoke the fear in some, so shall the sight of God's hand at work awaken the rest to the reality of the Almighty's existence. There is a passage in Revelation..Chapter 11, Verse 11..11:11. It is at that moment that the world will awaken to the reality that is God.

If you haven't done so already, and if it is within you to do so, open your eyes before then. The New World awaits us all. A time when we all live by this simple, universal rule...the law of reciprocity: treat others as you would be treated. Love God's children as God would have them loved, and you in turn will know that love.

May we all find the light within and may the will of The Eternal be done.

Your brother, one drop in a mighty ocean,

daf


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TINK
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posted November 25, 2003 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
I have felt this too Daf, on and off over the years, about the water. A very strange, very wise man I spoke with just once told me that the area I live in (RI) would be overcome with water after an earthquake. That was about 12 years ago. He said he would warn me when the time came to leave. I have no way to contact him now, I don't even know his name. But I feel stongly he will find a way to contact me.

Edgar Cayce had an awful lot to say on the subject. Are you familiar with his work regarding this?

A compelling chapter and verse from Revelations. How do you interpret it?

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StarLover33
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posted November 25, 2003 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
I also live in New England and I believe that if somethings going to happen you'll be warned. So don't worry for now.

Daf, what do you say about Big Brother?

-StarLover

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TINK
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posted November 26, 2003 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Hi StarLover33. "don't worry for now" Easier said than done though isn't it.

strange but that man I met advised me to go to Colorado. I remember reading that Linda said that the area around the Sangre de Cristo Mountains would someday be a safe haven. They're in Colorado and ,I think, New Mexico. Maybe he knew something.

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dafremen
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posted November 27, 2003 12:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message
We've also been considering Colorado..coincidence?

In answer to your question about big brother, there is this:

When one member of a relationship hires another to spy on the other members of that relationship for lack of trust between them, that is not security..that is insecurity.

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posted November 27, 2003 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Coincidence? Not.

Insecruity on their part? God I hope so.

"No man shall know the hour and the day." I guess that means it is in flux, changeable. I hope then that there is still hope. When it happens (maybe even if) is up to us.I comfort myself with the story of Sodom and Gommorrah. When God was willing to save the city for the sake of 10 good men. "the Elect will be saved, and some will be saved for the sake of the Elect" At any given moment are there enough of them to warrent a reprieve? When will the scales tip?

Now fess up and tell me about that Revelations verse.

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dafremen
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posted November 27, 2003 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
You leave me wondering if there is more behind your question than there might appear to be to the casual observer.

What DO you know TINK? Please email me. (dafremen@hotmail.com)

You asked about that verse in Revelations. Do you mean 11:11? It is the culmination of the story of two Witnesses who tell people things that they do not want to hear. After a period of time, they are cut down by the beast, and their dead bodies are left on display as the people of the world celebrate their demise. For three and a half days they lie dead, then, they are awakened, and when this happens, there is a great earthquake, and those who weren't killed by it, fell down on their knees and gave glory to God.

One of those witnesses is known to have made his appearance, the question is whether or not he has begun witnessing, or has simply begun the process of awakening to his destiny.

That's all I can say at this time.

Daf

P.S. Please do email me with what you know.

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Motherkonfessor
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posted November 27, 2003 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Motherkonfessor     Edit/Delete Message
All I can say is..yeah. I know.

It went from vague intuitions and awkward dreams...to more urgent images, a constant bombardment of details opening my Eye to what's going on.

As of late, there are days I can barely concentrate on "mundane: life because it seems as if there are more important matters demanding my attention.....and I can't seem to logically determine "What do I do next" because I am not supposed to know yet...must keep the faith that when the time comes, I will be ready.

Colorado........for no apparent reason other than impulse, 6 years ago on New Years Day I found myself staring at Pikes Peak, absorbing the geography of my new home.

I moved back to my state of birth, feeling forced, feeling like it was against my will.
I consider it the worst mistake of my life, returning. Altho my experiences in CO were't the "greatest" in a sense they were necessary.
Even so, I long to return....its almost a compulsion.
Everyone I met in CO could feel a change in the air. We all had these dreams.

Strange, wonderful times we live in......

MK

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StarLover33
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posted November 28, 2003 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
The best place to be are near the mountains.

But you know what, something inside me feels compelled to move to New York City and live there until I know it's time to leave.

And another thing, my heart says to stay completely away from L.A not so much New York City but definitely L.A.
I believe that New York City and Boston will be saved. I don't believe they'll go under, those two cities can and will be saved I just know it.

I also don't believe that Japan will go under unless they are experimenting with dangerous bombs. But the people will save the island becuase of their purity. I think the most dangerous area in America is definitely California especially down the south of California.

As for Boston and New York City I would agree with the earthquake prediction, but it's false to say that they shall be lost forever. For a long time it will hard to live there, but their has to be something spiritualy divine residing.

-StarLover

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Randall
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posted November 29, 2003 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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posted November 29, 2003 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Dafreman

Yes, 11:11 was the verse to which I referred. Sadly, you over estimate me. I don't have a clue. Most of what you discuss (especially with Meili) leaves me utterly stumped.

I will say though that I am often of the mind-set that Revelations is a timeless sort of work. I don't just refer to a long shelf life. Rather, it exists OUTSIDE of time. One verse could refer to multiple experiences or events? Poems have a way of doing that, don't they? Nothing linear.Of course, many people feel it is allegorical. But I think sometimes it really should be taken literally. Not entirely sure about that particular verse. 6 years and about two months, right? "clothed in sackcloth"? Literal(?!?) or maybe only a reference to poverty, lack of wordly power? Are the "witnesses" individuals, nations, churches?

Well, like I said, I don't know a thing. In fact, I'm more than a little embaressed to be discussing this sort of thing given my ignorance. But I'm trying.
Thank you for the self-esteem boost though

tink

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posted November 29, 2003 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
P.S.
And thank you again for your patience and kind replies.
tink

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posted December 02, 2003 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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posted December 03, 2003 12:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message
You are such a joy to know Tink! How funny that you should not think yourself wise when you have, in three short paragraphs, taught me so much! You are a light which shines in the darkest corners of the "high and mighty." You are the flashing signal at the corner that says, "Walk, but with your head down, Daf. For here is one whose wisdom is mightier than yours." There are roses, there are thorns and there is dirt. You are a rose surrounded by dirt, and there are those of us who are grateful even for the chance to be your thorns. Such a pretty bloom, such tender petals and the sweet fragrance of a better way. Thank you tink for beauty and a future.


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This is a learning process for all of us and I`m thankful we can come here and grow together

I`m not saying much, but I am reading and listening to the wisdom here. Thank you all for the gifts.

juniperb

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posted December 03, 2003 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Good Lord, Daf.

Well, all I have to say is - your wife is a damn lucky woman!

But you still haven't told me what you think of that verse!

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dafremen
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posted December 05, 2003 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Tink,

Your question was not being ignored, it's just that the identity of one of the witnesses is known, and it's not appropriate to think about or discuss what's going to happen at that time.

This is primarily because it is presumptuous of the will of God and the future worthiness of the person in question, particularly taking into consideration what happens at the end of that verse.

Secondly it is because the focus at this point should rather be on trying to get the message out to as many people as possible, without focusing on what will happen to those who disregard the warnings. Again, pardon if you thought you were being ignored, you weren't.

It seemed of some significance to mention that C+o+l+o+r+a+d+o = 11 particularly considering that it is the area that many people have been drawn to.

In addition, it seemed worthy to note that in the novel The Stand by Stephen King, the forces of good among the survivors were also drawn toward Colorado.

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posted December 05, 2003 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for divinia     Edit/Delete Message
Also, I read an apocalyptic book by Pat Robertson (I don't recall the name) in which the leader of the victorious anti-antiChrist forces came from and organized in Colorado (I'm pretty sure). And we're planning to move to Minnesota...

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posted December 06, 2003 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
That's quite alright Daf. It's that pesky Scorpio "need to know" thing. Sometimes it makes me a bit pushy. My apologies. There's a time and a place for eveything. Hopefully my eyes will be opened when they need to be.

I had forgotton about that book. I read it a million years ago. I'm not really a Stephen King fan at all, but that one made an impression on me. I know of several people who feel the same. Perhaps Mr. King tapped into something.

divinia ~ I wasn't aware that Pat Robertson wrote novels. Do you follow him? A tad bit to hellfire and brimstone for me. Hows about moving a little further west and meeting up with us all in Colorado?

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posted December 06, 2003 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divinia     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Tink!

Oddly enough, last year I worked at a call center where between calls we were allowed to read. I was working an infrequently called line so I had lots of downtime in which to read. The person I shared a desk with was of the Fundamental persuasion and he had lots of interesting books. I noticed that one in our drawers and decided to check it out. I was raised with the hellfire perspective so I had a natural interest. Plus, I like to know where others "are coming from."

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posted December 06, 2003 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
You know, every once in a while I'll catch a few minutes of Robertson's 700 club show. For the same reason, too. Just to see how the other half lives. It really is enlightening in its own little way. I was raised old yankee Episcopalian, so the hellfire thing is a novel concept for me. Spiritually liberal but emotionally conservative people. Anyway, when confonted with that brimstone stuff, I never know whether to laugh or cry.

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I watch it regularly. When I see Pat Robertson railing against ISLAM and telling people "Islamics want to DESTROY us and our way of life" I really worry about what the Christian right is creating..this army of people whose heads and hearts are full of misinformation and hate.

Don't think it isn't happening on the other side too. I'm sure there's a so-called "Islamic" 700 club of some sort saying the exact same things.

The saddest thing is when I hear a Christian saying that Muslims hate Jesus, when nothing could be farther from the truth. Although I am not a Muslim yet myself, I feel strongly for these very devoted, very loving people who have been given a bum rap by some fanatics who are NOT muslims, but just claim to follow Islam. You cannot kill and be in Islam.

If you understood what Islam is and where Allah is to be found, you would know this.

No sane man bites his own fingers off, and God is much saner and wiser than any of us.

daf

P.S. Has anyone else had these feelings about the water? About the coming changes?

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posted December 06, 2003 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
Oh yes, dear Dafremen, I have had strong feelings of change and water for some time. the feelings became so strong that I felt I had to move to the mountains. I first moved to the mountains of new Mexico, then Colorado. Funnily enough, to the area Tink mentioned, the Sangre de Cristos. Now I have finally found my refuge in a remote, hidden mountain paradise in British Columbia. I keep telling people to grab their surfboards because the waves of change are bearing down on us like the unstopable tide. Of course, a lot of people have no idea what I am talking about, but some do. I would encourage any who are inclined to go to the mountains. It isn't like you have to live in a bunker or anything. But I do have lots of supplies put aside for an emergency. Of course, that only makes sense when you live in a place that is sometimes cut off from the rest of the world. Occasionally avalanches close the roads out and cut the electric lines. People here barely notice. With a wood stove, a good source of fresh water (not dependent on the electric grid)and a big stash of food and candles, there isn't much worry. Some say the rest of the world could collapse and it would take those of us who live here a week to notice. I find Revelation 11:11 to be quite interesting. Can you give us no further clues or information about the witness of whom you speak?

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posted December 06, 2003 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
OK, after reviewing a couple of other threads I can see that you are talking about John as the witness. I asked other questions in the thread about the pythagorian triangle. Is he John Bonarges, one of the two Sons of Thunder?

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posted December 06, 2003 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Dear Fishkitten,

Thank you so much for your words here. I believe that the more confirmations we can get out there publicly, the more people will come out of the woodwork about their own feelings. This can only help to reduce the spiritual and physical casualties in the end. The answer to your question is on the tetractys thread here.

daf

P.S. Somewhere I mentioned that a lexigram for the online name that I've had since I was 9, Roger Dafremen, is Freedom Ranger.

I just recently noticed this:

D+A+F = 11

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