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posted July 10, 2004 09:19 PM         

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Oh, this is so cool. I found a whole book on physical immoraltiyt. Awhile back, I ran across a thread where Randall mentioned the book You Don't Have to Die, and I found a used copy on Amazon. Can't wait till it arrives.

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posted July 10, 2004 10:23 PM         

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Sheesh, you'd think I was drunk. That's supposed to say physical immortality, not immoraltiyt.

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posted July 11, 2004 07:44 AM         

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Hi mortega, good to see you!!

Who is the author?

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posted July 15, 2004 11:35 AM         

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It arrived yesterday, and it truly is a whole book on physical immortality. It's not in the best condition, though. I guess I wouldn't recommend buying a used book from Amazon. The table of contents says it all:

You don't have to die
The evoluton of death
Learning to die (don't know if I want to learn to die)
Organized belief
More nurture, less nature
Mental evolution
Beyond human comprehension
Religious seeds of truth
Why we age
Overcoming propaganda
Perseverance
Deathist programming
Learning to live
The infinity circle
TKLCAM
Reversing your age
Perpetualism
Spiritual evolution
Stages of enlightnement
Food for thought
The immortal teachings of Jesus
The tao of immortality
Enlightenment revisited
Beyond immortality
The endless path
Spiritual protection

I went out to the bookstore and picked up Star Signs, too, so I could refresh my memory. I'll keep everyone post if I come across something really amazing. Oh, and it's by Dan Hall.

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posted July 15, 2004 02:07 PM         

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mortega, thats the author I thought it was. He used to have a web site but I don`t know if he has any longer.

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posted July 15, 2004 11:45 PM         

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I think I remember coming across that thread relatively recently. I began reading this book, it's called Forever it's by Pete Hamill. It's about this Irish guy who gets granted immortality when he comes to Manhattan in the 1700's, he will be immortal as long as he doesn't leave the island. It's kind of sort of slow at first but it's a really good book so far. And it seems really real not make-believe like some stories of this nature could be (I even thought that perhaps he happened upon someone and interviewed them and called it fiction). I've been meaning to post something about the book here cause it gives you a look at what things might be like it you were really immortal. Maybe you could read this book in conjunction with the one that you are getting. I really would think that someone who is considering certain lifepaths would find this book useful. Anyway, this book that you are talking about: I'd like to know about that last chapter and what he or she has to say about spiritual protection in reference to immortality.

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posted July 25, 2004 12:29 PM         

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Silverbells, I haven't got to the last chapter yet. So far, the book's gotten into quite a bit on why people die and a lot on eastern philosophy. I did skim through the spiritual protection chapter. There's a lot of talk about karma. So far, it's a good read.

Juniperb, the site on the front cover still wroks, but it's ********** .com now. He put up a lot of free information on health and diet and stuff, and he's got a new book out that's still in print that looks like it's a bigger version of You Don't Have to Die, which is cool since it was kinda hard to track down this one. It's available at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0595314228/qid=1089410388/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8940288-1270306?v=glance&s=books

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posted July 28, 2004 01:05 AM         

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Amazon.com doesn't have it in stock, but it looks like they e mail you if they get one in.

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posted July 28, 2004 02:46 PM         

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I read that book. It's by Dan Hall. He stopped selling it because he said it was other people's theories rehashed or something like that. I liked the book though.

Whatever happened to him? I think he went through some stuff. You know Randall?

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posted July 28, 2004 03:49 PM         

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Beats me.

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posted September 12, 2004 07:58 PM         

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I just wanted to update everyone on this wonderful book. I'm about halfway through it now (haven't had too much time to read lately with work and all.. haven't even had much time to come here. It's getting into the whole idea that death is a process of evolution and that through time, we got to the point where we accepted death and therefore because we believe it to be true, it is. Similar to Linda Goodman's ideas on the subject. To answer the question about wahtever happened to Dan Hall, it appears he's still writing. His new book's available at Amazon and looks like it's even better than You Don't Have to Die. I've been reading a lot on his site, too, which gets into a lot more than physical immortality. He's got a whole health system on their that gets into fructarianism and body,mind,spirit stuff. I don't know why it came up with ********* before, but the site is n-e-o-h-y-g-i-e-n-e.com but without the hyphens. Anyway, it's worth a look. I've been using some of the diet techniques and have lost about 15 pounds in the past two months. It's hard to do some of that stuff, but it works. Much better than this silly Atkins stuff they keep advertising.

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posted February 07, 2009 01:32 PM         

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posted February 08, 2009 05:39 PM         

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http://books.google.com/books?id=g8HJ44AE7WAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=**********

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posted February 08, 2009 11:28 PM         

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I never read that. I think he's into bare foot technologies now. In kahoots with David Wolfe. They are both marketing pros.

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posted February 09, 2009 10:07 PM         

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The problem I have with books like that, is that the people are usually middle age and look it (or worse!). I would love to read a book like that from someone who was at least 80 but looked 25-30, then I would be impressed! It is discouraging when people write about those things then up and die.(Like L. Goodman) Surely, somewhere, somebody....

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posted February 10, 2009 10:17 PM         

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I agree, Good Girl. I sort of understand how Linda ended up dying, considering all that she went through. I guess it depends on how much self-discipline you have. It's sort of like a really unhealthy person writing a diet book that really works and is actually incredibly good for you. They just didn't have the self-control to do it themselves, or chose not to follow it for one reason or another. Although, again, as you said, Good Girl, I would love to see a person who wrote a book on immortality who is a real immortal. It would be very inspiring. But.. perhaps it has something to do with the government... them not wanting to give anyone a SOLID reason to really believe in it. Just letting people decide for themselves, as it's harder to believe something when all apparent or available evidence is against you. It sounds sad... But I'm going to try it out, and at best, I'll outlive most people.

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