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Xannie
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posted August 22, 2004 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xannie     Edit/Delete Message
hi, this is my first time here - i'm not even sure if this is the right forum for this question...
after a very vivid dream (a recurring theme) - i realized how terrified i am of anything i cant see...that is, i have these powers/talent to "see" things and communicate, but i realize now that i am terrified of spirits/ghosts/etc - that is, my terror comes from not being able to control their presence, as i can control people entering my house in the conventional way. the fear has to do with how do i know if its someone good or bad? how can i not have anyone in my house (a non-physical being) if i dont want to? its hard to explain, maybe i need a crash course on who these beings are (i only recently found Linda's books, it's taking me a while). i guess i feel like there is no control over a non-physical being entering my house, and the potential violation is TERRIFYING...can anyone help me with anything related to this? the basic question is how do i stay safe (is this even a necessary concept with what i am talking about?), how do i keep my house safe - but any comments would be very welcome !

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Randall
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posted August 22, 2004 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

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Xannie
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posted August 23, 2004 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xannie     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you! ))

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Randall
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posted August 25, 2004 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Sprinkle salt in all four corners of every room.

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sesame
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posted August 25, 2004 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Randall, I was hoping someone might have a clue You could also try some sort of mantra such as "Divine spirit of my higher self, please protect my dwelling against all outside spirits. I ordain this now and in grace, Xannie." Cool name by the way and Welcome

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Xannie
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posted August 26, 2004 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xannie     Edit/Delete Message
THANK YOU so much - Randall i'm going to try that as soon as i get home! and Sesame - thank you too!! gonna start saying that as i write this...

it's not that i dont want any spirits (or whatever...i'm still just learning and have no idea what's out there...) - i just want to make sure it's the good ones that come in (are there "bad" ones? - or am i personifying something that is not the same as humans?)

...it's just that lately i have been discovering about my own talent for "seeing" things - how to hone it and such, and for the first time i began to notice that i am not alone...i dont know if it's just now, or maybe it has been this way all along and i was not aware (i am the queen of denial...;-)) so all these questions came up and i just felt TERRIFIED...again, of the lack of control of who enters and who doesnt. also, my cat (btw Sesame - thanks about the name! it is the name of my late cat Roxannie) has been running around every night between 8 and 11 - just meowing loudly for no apparent reason...and that for some reason gets me on edge.

THANK YOU BOTH SO VERY VERY MUCH! (for listening to me especially...)
i really appreciate the help!!

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Gia
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posted August 26, 2004 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Why honey, there a countless things you can't see!
I think you are simply afraid of the unknown which is quite common. Those things have always been there, you just couldn't see them before that's all. It's so much easier when you can. You know exactly what you happen to be dealing with. Though I have a great friend who works in this field that does not see, he only senses I often work with him on clearings.

It's hard to explain to people that in many respects we have no privacy at all. I'm sorry guys, but it's totally true. We can control our space to some extent though. What we attract is a direct consequence of how we live, how we behave, the things we do, or in many cases, don't do.

There are things we can do to ensure our spiritual safety. The use of salt is one thing, cleanliness is another. I always get raised eyebrows at this one. Actually when you've be trained to see what dirt and clutter attract, you'd be most astounded.

The Indians call it Prana, the Chinese call it Chi, I call it plain old energy. If this is stagnant and dirty, then that is what it will attract.

It's a little like water that has no movement. Talking of water, this is powerful tool too. It's a great conductor of energy. Put a clean bowl of water under your bed with a little sea salt in it. Leave it there whilst sleeping. Throw it away in the morning. Do not drink it.

A prayer of intent is powerful also. Fear is not. It is simply giving away of your power. I refuse to live in fear and so therefore I have had to learn how to protect myself. I am luckier than most, I was trained at a very young age with this purpose in mind.I'm still not sure why. Drugs and artificial stimulants can also leave rips in the energetic field of a person, this can often attract unwanted influences. This is most common with young kids on drugs.

There are many books on the practical techniques of psychic self defence. Please google to find these.

I know a certain people here who would be very tempted to condemn my knowledge as something "black" you are so entitiled to your belief system. One fine day we will all return to our original state and know for sure that cosmic consciousness is not at all tainted by our earthly judgements.

Do not let yourself be scared honey. You must control yourself first. Learn not to fear. Know that there is nothing that can harm you more than fear itself.

Gia


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Grasshopper
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posted August 28, 2004 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Grasshopper     Edit/Delete Message
Black "absorbs" all colors. White reflects all colors. I would say that your words were quite reflective, Gia!

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talaith
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posted August 28, 2004 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for talaith     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Xannie ~

may i suggest a Bach Flower Essence? Rock Rose, i believe, would help you to put your fear in perspective, and allow guidance from your higher self to come through and help lead you, intuitively, to a place in which your fears are put to rest and you again may be in control.

and Gia's words, as always, are reflective, yes, like a white shining light. they are well heeded!

and as black is a very protective color, it keeps negative energies at bay, you may wish to wear this color when you feel especially vulnerable. one reason, i've read, that many wiccans wear black when performing ritual.

well, all of love and light to you...i'm sure there are some good combinations of the flower essences that would help, if you're interested; i'd be happy to discuss them with you.

love, talaith

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silverbells
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posted August 28, 2004 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
This is a prayer of Protection. It is called the Saint Michael's Prayer.

Oh Saint Michael the Archangel
Defend us in this time of battle
Be our safeguard against the wickedness and the snares of the devil
May God rebuke him we humble Pray
And May Thou the Prince of the Heavenly Host by the Power of God
thrust down to hell, Satan and all of his wicked spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls.
(Amen)

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Gia
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posted August 30, 2004 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Archange Michael is a wonderful guardian and that is a wonderful prayer.

I made the point about the black for good reason. Our local priest came to dinner a few months ago. Over dinner he expressed interest in borrowing some of my books. We were discussing the Nephilim at the time and I wanted to lend him some books on the subject. When he walked into my library, he was astounded at both the size and the collection of books we have. It is floor to ceiling panelled and overflowing full. We are mad book collectors and have over 20 years of collecting. So I guess it's an awful lot of books. Anyway I regress, whilst looking through the collection he noted the several Bibles with obvious delight. The Greek, Peshitta, King James etc. I noticed he raised eyebrows at the Koran, Gita, Torah, and even The Book of Mormon but he didn't say anything and nor did I. Then he moved on and noted the books on Wicca, Occult Sciences and other subjects he lumped them all under the title of "such dark subjects." He asked why I would read them? and I replied " for knowledge of course." I asked him what he knew about various occult matters. His reply was " absolutely nothing." You cannot warn others against something you don't know anything about. You cannot help someone fight something you know nothing about. I think Father David now has a totally different view. He borrowed some very unusual books after all. It's been awhile now. I do hope he returns them eventually.

Gia

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sesame
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posted August 30, 2004 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, have you read all of them? Maybe to re-phrase "Education is always the discovery of how much we've forgotten"?

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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Gia
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posted August 30, 2004 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Every single one and sometimes several times.

That is also true. I guess it all depends on
where we stand and from which direction we view.

Gia

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sesame
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posted August 30, 2004 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
So in a nutshell, what's the Bhagavad Gita? I've had this copy I bought a long time ago from a weird guy on a street. I thought it could be worthy of reading, but have never had the chance yet. Could you please give me a run-down?

Thanks,
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Gia
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posted August 30, 2004 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
The Gita is the divine conversation betwwen a man called Arjuna and God in human form Lord Krishna. It is relative to the study of Hindu scriptures.

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sesame
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posted August 31, 2004 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
That's quite ironic considering I am now readin "Conversations with God" which is a christian man talking to God. I guess God's been trying to confer with us for a while Are there more than one Gitas? What then does the Bhagavad part mean then?

Maybe I ask too many questions?!?
Dean.

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paras
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posted August 31, 2004 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! Way to go, Gia! Getting a priest to borrow your "unholy" books! Well done!

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Randall
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posted September 01, 2004 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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Gia
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posted September 03, 2004 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Sesame,

I lost you and couldn't remember where this thread was.

Bhagavad means God.
Gita means song.

So that the Bhagavad Gita is translated as the Song Of God. There are many Gita's because there are many songs. Also there are many translations from the classic version which when translated to English is not the easiest to read.

I don't know which you have, but a beautiful version which is modern, can be found on: www.Mandala.org. It is by a Swami Tripurari who I have had the privilege of meeting personally. He has a small ashram in Northern California near Mendocino. This version is a modern and easy to read.

The story in brief, because I'm anticipating another question.

There is a kind of family feud going on between two sides of a family / clan. They
decide to battle with one another as a way to resolve their obvious differences.

God incarnates as Krishna and approaches each side offering his services so to speak.

They have no idea this is really God.

He asks them each if they had the choice between elephants, weapons, chariots
and all the paraphernalia of war or him,
which would they choose?

One side falls for it and chooses all the war paraphernalia, whilst Arjuna chooses Krishna who is really God.

If I remember correctly he becomes a chariot driver for Arjuna.

As these events are taking place, Krishna who is really God, has long conversations with Arjuna and answers some very profound
questions about life and so forth.
These are the "Songs of God.

Arjuna asks Krishna who he is and God reveals himself in all his glory.

This is a brief Gia version. I make apologies in advance to any Hindu's if it's not quite good enough.


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posted September 04, 2004 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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sesame
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posted September 05, 2004 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, that's cool, thanks Gia!

Dean.

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Xannie
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posted September 12, 2004 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xannie     Edit/Delete Message
wow...you guys - THANK YOU...i was on vacation for 2 weeks - and cleaned my house...i think i threw away at least 40 trash bags full of junk...and i can tell you (Gia) - you are SO right about the "like attracts like" and now that my house is clearer (and cleaner) it feels so very different! (also, by cleaning - it started a cleaning process from inside...but that's another story...;-))
interesting stuff here...inspiring that there are others who think outside the box.. !

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posted September 12, 2004 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pisces-girl     Edit/Delete Message
What does the salt do and how and why is it possible??

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Gia
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posted September 13, 2004 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Salt is a charged mineral. It is necessary for proper water balance and blood PH in the body. It's salinty is like our own blood and tears.

As it is for our body, it is so for our enviroment. It is natures cleanser if you will. It produces what we call negative ions. That's why you feel so good by the ocean. Salt is what boots negative ions in the air. It is natures own natural ioniser.

Positive ions are really POS - IONS. Polluted ions. Salt attracts all polluted ions and basically neutralizes them.

Salt is a powerful energetic purifer. It has been used for millenia for the cleansing of people, spaces and objects. Water and salt are great conductors of energetic particles.

If you feel tired, unwell, overwhelmed, try putting a cup of see salt in the tub and lie in it for a few minutes. See how you feel when you come out. The ancient priests used this ritual to cleanse themselves before and after mixing with the general population. I do it after I give someone who is very sick a massage. I use it several times a week. Smudging is good but salt is better.

I hope this helps.

Gia

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posted September 19, 2004 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Good explanation, Gia.

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