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posted April 21, 2005 08:28 PM         

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Hi, does being a dark artist greatly inhibit my chances for achieving physical immortality?

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posted April 21, 2005 09:57 PM         

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What does being a dark artist mean?

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posted April 21, 2005 10:14 PM         

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Does it mean you draw things that are dark and gloomy?
Like sad, voilent, painful, angry, stuff?
That's my impression of dark art.
I've seen some art that I would class as dark.
So do you paint/draw things of that nature?

I was reading something once when someone said they enjoy capturing the dark side of life in their paintings.
Each to their own I'd say, whatever!
It doesn't make you a bad person, or inhibit your chance of evolving and claiming your birth right, it's unconditional.
I don't know really, what do you think?

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posted April 21, 2005 10:39 PM         

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i wouldnt think that constantly dwelling on the concept of death would help one to spiral immortality...........

on the other hand perhaps if one is trying to become a liche, a revanent, a vampire or some other type of undead creature then maybe thats one way of achieving it....

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posted April 22, 2005 12:45 PM         

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Well, actually I create dark art...that some might consider of a shadowy nature, because it's what I see and here going on in the world and I feel effected by that. So I suppose it is a reflection, an expression of the ugliness present in this world. As well being a dark artist seems to come naturally for me... but I suppose there is a reason for that whatever that may be. And no I'm not actually involved in vampirism or satanism...but I could be considered gothic depending on what people consider that to be. The basis for that doesn't lie in my wanting to pursue evil though...I have other reasons for choosing to be so.

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posted April 22, 2005 12:50 PM         

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I see beauty in the darkness.

I also see beauty in light.

How cn you know the full scope of 'IT' when you don't understand the other side of it?

I find darkness gratifying in some way.. I am really seduced by the concept of embracing and falling in sometimes....
Not that I could do evil things.. but I do understand the seduction of deep. Some things I draw can disturb people.... but I am certainly not someone you'd call 'evil' or 'dark'.. I am in touch with scopes to things though.
Just spouting off about me again.. haha.. thanks for letting me!

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posted April 24, 2005 06:24 PM         

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There is beauty in darkness, just as there is beauty in light. How can we appreciate one without the other?
And,certainly dark does not = evil. The important thing is to be true to youself and to do no harm.

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posted April 26, 2005 12:18 PM         

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Quite! (^_^) And yes I agree with both of those replies, I can certainly attest to how one cannot exist without the other. And I certainly have gone through some dark periods in my life, karmic wise and soul testing wise not unlike the rest of the planet though I suppose *sigh*.

** Suffering is like the seed of an herb when planted in the earth. The seed remembers itself and endures in the darkness so that it can grow up into the sunlight one day as an entirely transformed flower. When you understand the suffering and the forces of darkness, you can end suffering and bring light to the people. -Ginevee-

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posted April 30, 2005 02:19 PM         

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I read once that shamans who dwell in hell too long or too often have a tendency to die earlier, be warned, thats what I say.

try remaining detatched from the pain and you should be fine...

Interesting subject matter, how much do you make$? are you a painter writer musician what ?

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posted May 06, 2005 11:14 PM         

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Hm... interesting I haven't heard of that before now,deepth unto deep . And I currently make an extra 300 - 400 on top of what am making now... visual/graphic art. I write as well^_^. This a rough draft that I am currently playing with as we speak:

The trees stand depressed, flailing in the cold October wind looking pale and forlorn.
Their arms outstretched like beggars reaching for the light, but alas there is no ray of hope this day to pierce the overcast of dark clouds looming ominous overhead, that grumble back their discontent to all who would hear.
An icy wind begins to blow, howling through the trees and sings the song of death as a few remaining leaves fall like kings from thrones.
Ere once they sat high up their mighty hierarchy, but now lay dead upon the ground lifeless. Having once known of the majestic beauty, once lived in their prime, when all was green and sublime.

Copyright @ 2005 by Sugarlightning

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posted May 07, 2005 02:01 PM         

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I didn't read everyone's comments, because I wanted to only think of your question.

Being a "dark artist" is acknowledging the hurt within your soul, because it is seperate from what is going in the external world. Your art is a release. It also means you have hope. For every negetive thought/emotion there is a positive one that fed the "dark one." I wouldn't call you a dark artist, how about a "light artist?" I'd say you are experiencing the pain of the entire universe and taking responsibility for things you cannot control. That has nothing to do with immortality. Try painting a picture of who YOU are and make any changes you see there to better YOUR world. Not "The World." Do you seperate your emotions from the emotion of your work? When you paint dark art, you are painting hope!
Best wishes.

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posted May 08, 2005 08:03 PM         

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Hi, well I think there is some truth there when you wrote... "I'd say you are experiencing the pain of the entire universe and taking responsibility for things you cannot control." I think that's true to some degree as for the rest of what you wrote, I am not sure at the moment and I think I would have to give it some thought and meditate on that for a time.
You know... reading your reply certain words triggered a memory of something I'd heard before, about how we are all reflections of eachother. Some people we like because they reflect the good qualities in us whereas others we don't like to be in the company of when they cause us to have certain feelings such as anger or sadness. The ones who relfect the qualities or shadow sides of our personalities that we don't like to admit is there and sometimes tend to deny. Yet the ones who reflect our shadow sides are strong teachers for us because they challenge us to grow. And I'd heard that it is also the same with events that transpire in the world wether good or bad that they are reflections because we are all connected to eachother on some level.- Well I do think learning to be detached from the pain that is going on in the world is good advice as someone suggested earlier . When it comes to art on some level I am detached from it and I seek to create it because in a way I do find the dark somewhat seductive and enticing and think it's exciting to give expression to that. There are other times when I am feeling very into my artwork and seek to give the emotions that I experience at the time expression. Wether what I am feeling is caused by a news report of a missing child or if I'd had a not so pleasant day then I am not feeling detached from it then and find it healing in a sense. You are right, sometimes yes it is a release for me ^_^

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