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Topic: Any tips on how to KNOW?
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LostInStrangeWorld
Knowflake Posts: 195
From: Bristol, England
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted July 10, 2005 05:23 PM
 
Hello all you wonderful people.....Now, in Linda's book 'Star Signs', as you will already know, Linda's #1 step to immortality is to KNOW it. "Don't have faith that it is true, don't believe that it is true, KNOW it is true". She said that this first step was the hardest of all. INDEED! So, I was wondering, whether any of you enlightened immortals could help a wee lost soul of the ancient world(!)....NOT to be such a tormented skeptic. I WANT to believe it. I need to believe it. I need to KNOW. BUT I FEAR DISILLUSIONMENT. I know it's important to let go of fear. Indeed. But let us not forget that the whole purpose of fear originally is to preserve and protect us. (In this case I want to protect my sense of realism). I have been disillusioned before. With religion. And when I look at the world around us, I see disillusionment every where; various faiths claiming, believing that it is THEY who have THE truth.....and so on. So please help, dear knowflakes, if you can. LOve and Light LostInStrangeWorld IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 6076
From: Pleasanton, CA, USA
Registered: May 2005
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posted July 11, 2005 01:29 AM
I may not be one such immortal, but I try to advise you according to my values.I've also been disillusioned by organized religion. It serves different people in different ways. Many people that are attracted to traditional churches are regularly hypocritical. They often get away from what the real message is. That's why I don't currently go to church, but help out a ministry that has a specific mission I can help in. I think that for me, I look into and entertain as many ideas as I can. There's ultimately no telling what the actual truth of anything is unless you experience it for yourself. On the good side, though, there can't be disillusionment until you've experienced the supposed fact not coming true. Like if you want to believe in immortality...there's no one that can come along and prove otherwise, and if you run into someone who can then you're not going to be disillusioned so much as you are going to be enlightened. Two more things: What's the worst that can happen if you know immortality's true? What's wrong with the belief that everything will come together and be beautiful in the end? To me, as long as you're not trying to convert those that aren't ready for conversion, and as long as you don't feel compelled to talk about your beliefs with people who wouldn't understand you'll be ok. I hold my beliefs in unless they are safe to display. I'm on a sort of never-ending quest, though, spiritually. I want to see what's truly offered. I want to know who's got the answer to what and make my own connections with the information I gather. IP: Logged |
LostInStrangeWorld
Knowflake Posts: 195
From: Bristol, England
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted July 11, 2005 04:24 AM
Thankyou for your ray of light on the matter, Acoustic God.I agree with what you say. Love IP: Logged |
Svetlana
Knowflake Posts: 254
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 11, 2005 08:39 AM
Hi Lost,
How 'bout some old fashiioned detective work?  I mean Soul searching. Literally. The Truth is inside you. You just have to find it in the quiet. It might take hours or years. (Or just one enLIGHTned moment!) But you have an eternity to do it. 
Nobody can tell you so you KNOW the answer. And even if they did (Linda DID in her book)would you believe them any way? You'd still question it 'till you find it for yourself.
Good luck in your searching!------------------
You can't lead a cavalry charge if you think you look funny on a horse.
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Philbird
Moderator Posts: 3193
From: Here, there and everywhere.
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted July 11, 2005 10:19 AM
Great questions and comments! Thanks.IP: Logged |
lalala
Knowflake Posts: 78
From: st. louis, mo
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted July 11, 2005 02:28 PM
try the books Bringers of the New Dawn: Teachings from the Pleiadians by Barbara Marciniak and The Eternal Validity of the Soul by Jane Roberts.these two books helped me put life into a perspective, death into a perspective and the multi-dimensional aspects of my being in to perspective. Creating one big perspective. to me i had to shrink ego with knowledge so taht i could jump through a hoop of knowing. thats how i work, may not be for everyone but i feel like i must corner myself before i can move forward with anything IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 23519
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted July 12, 2005 08:20 AM
I read it and a bell went off. I just knew it was true. ------------------
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
lalala
Knowflake Posts: 78
From: st. louis, mo
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted July 12, 2005 02:23 PM
which one did you read randall?? or which one set the bell off? IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 23519
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted July 12, 2005 08:44 PM
Star Signs, Chapter Nine.------------------
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
SunChild
Moderator Posts: 3191
From: Australia
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted July 13, 2005 02:15 AM
Ding, ding ding! Me too!  ------------------
"The important thing is this: to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become." Charles Dubois IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 10225
From: the stars
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted July 13, 2005 02:29 PM
Same here. I read Chapter 9 and didnt have a doubt in my mind or heart. But I did have alot of questions, and it sent me on a search to find out more. It left me in awe saying, 'How did I not know this before? It's so true!' And there was also a faint voice saying, 'You knew it all along.'  After I read it, it was like I got an old memory or k-Now-ing back.Lost, I dont think anyone can tell you how to Know something like this. Youve got to find your own truth inside of you. If it is Your Truth, you will find it out in good time. You are the only one who can tell you if something is true or not.  ------------------
What the caterpillar calls the end of the world the master calls a butterfly.
~Richard Bach IP: Logged |
StarLover33
Moderator Posts: 3021
From: King Arthur's Camelot
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted July 17, 2005 07:32 PM
Me three.  IP: Logged |
Nasya
Knowflake Posts: 61
From:
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 20, 2005 03:05 AM
Lost ,I have pased through this stage of doubts myself and like you i WANTED i NEEDED to believe that immortality does exist..
So i tried to know more about it..and also i tried asking my heart rather than my head... i am not an immortal..i never tried being one uptill now coz i fear losing my loved ones ...just my ''knowing'' that one can exist in the same physical body forever wont help my loved ones to attain immortality too.And i can't live without them...
Sorry for the rambling dear..
i'd say you are on the right path...
Read up more and NEVER surrender to your fears. Love,
A fellow Traveller.
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guy_me_19
Knowflake Posts: 78
From:
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 06, 2005 04:04 AM
well 'lostin.. ' , referring to what Svetlana said :"Hi Lost,
How 'bout some old fashiioned detective work? " .. i think i can go a step ahead ..(u know i read that in a book..
at the time u have a 101 or more degree fahrenhiet of fever , you do not realize but you have the unique opportunity at that time to "talk to your soul".. i min at that time your brain is in tension n if at that time you try to concentrate "hard enough" and try really hard to analyze things will really start to work out! ok.. now what i mean by "hard enough" .. well.. the effort will be enormouus.. but actually all that it asks for is persevearence.. the sole trick over here is:
IN THAT STATE OF MIND .. YOU SIMPLY QUESTION EVERYTHING.. EVERYTHING!!!!!!!
right from why you are questioning yourself..!!! ... n keep doing it.. keep saying.."and why this " or "and why that".. etc etc..
did ya follow ? IP: Logged |
sesame
Moderator Posts: 1320
From: Oz
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted November 19, 2005 01:08 AM
LostInStrangeWorld, this might sound hipocritical, but to me, Knowing, is about Being. Have you read Conversations With God? It says the first step is Knowing who you are and what you want to be. The next is to Be that thing you Know you are. The third is to Experience what Being means. The reason Knowing is first is because your life is a choice. To flow is to experience a Fate or Destiny that is like catching a wave, it may be fun, but were you consicous of catching it? Do you take responsibility for the choice? So, first, Know who are and then Be That. Of course, Discipline comes in here to keep you on tract until you have Experienced the fullness of that Being.As they said in the book, I am not a Human Doing, or Knowing, but a Human Being. (or something like that) Heaps of Love,
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Iqhunk
Knowflake Posts: 1719
From: Chennai
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted November 20, 2005 04:43 AM
Hi to all youthful immortality junkies,I tried out some reverse spiralling with the assumption that all new theories are true unless proven false. This helped in the "Knowing" part. So I set the age to be as 17 after fiddling with 21 for a while. Just 3-4 days later, I have seen all the "older" people in my city whom I last saw when I was 17, in the same place, at a wedding reception that I did not even want to attend. Unrelated people, all there at the same place! Freaked me out!
Maybe thats a sign? That the body memory cells triggered to accpet that they are turning 17 again that the people of that time got pulled into a common location ? Has this happened to others?
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sesame
Moderator Posts: 1320
From: Oz
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted November 26, 2005 10:36 AM
 That's ultra-cool!  Dean. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 23519
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 07, 2005 10:54 AM
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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
themysteryclub
Knowflake Posts: 92
From: caspian's kingdom
Registered: Nov 2005
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posted January 20, 2006 12:55 AM
Lost,This may not help entirely, but it is the one thing that I KNOW at the moment... I am at the same stage your are at...wanting to know things, but neither believing or knowing because my mind is unwilling to surrender completely to the word of a (wonderful!) but unknown woman. I trust my intuition and God first. I love this website, and i love all the people on this website, but I have never had a moment where the light just "clicked" while reading Linda Goodman's books...though I have learned a tremendous amount. The times I have felt that "oh yeah! I already knew that, and now I really KNOW" feeling have been when praying/meditating on God and myself and personal interests. My 'holy' moments have come in unique ways. Sometimes I feel like I live in a totally different dimension, because I feel 'enlightened' in ways that even the 'enlighted children of the age of aqaurius' do not. I feel that profound and trembling knowing and enlightment in a way that I have yet to find parralled in another fellow human. So here is my advice: You will know. I promise. We all have a life ordained to us for certain reasons, and we all might feel reallity and God in unique and different ways. So don't be discouraged, and don't feel that you need to Know anything...be quiet...be still...and it will come. Love, Light, and absolute Unconditional Love, TMC IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 190
From: the capricious clouds
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted June 23, 2006 01:11 PM
Thankyou everyOne, for your beautiful words.IP: Logged |
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