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maklhouf
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posted May 04, 2007 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message
www.thelondonpaper.com
A 116 year old goatherd claims his longevity is down to never having had sex with a woman.Grigory Nestor revealed "According to my Christian beleifs there is no sex before marriage and I have never had a wife. Married people argue all the time and that's not good for the health.

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posted August 02, 2007 07:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message
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26taurus
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Interesting.

Brahmacharya-Celibacy

God is Rasa. Rasa is Veerya, the vital fluid or semen.
You can attain eternal bliss and peace by preserving the Veerya. Brahmacharya means control of the Veerya. The vital force or Veerya is preserved only by one who is established in the practice of Brahmacharya. The vital fluid or semen is lost and wasted during sexual indulgence.
From food comes juice or chyle; from chyle comes blood and flesh; from flesh comes fat; from fat comes bones; from bones come marrow. Lastly, from marrow comes semen. The Veerya comes out of the very marrow concealed in the bones. It is found in a subtle state in all the cells of the body. Mark here how precious the semen is! It is the last essence of food. It is the essence of essences.
As the vital force is the most precious substance in the physical body, it should be carefully preserved. Its wastage means loss of physical and mental energy.
It is said that a drop of semen comes out of forty drops of blood. According to Ayurveda it comes from eighty drops of blood.
Just a sugar pervades the entire sugarcane and butter pervades milk, so also semen pervades the whole body. Just as buttermilk is thinned after the butter has been extracted, so also the semen is thinned by its wastage. The more the wastage of the semen, the more the physical and mental weakness.

Ojas Shakti-Sex-sublimation

When semen is preserved, it gets reabsorbed by the body and stored in the brain as Ojas Shakti or spiritual power. The seminal energy is changed into spiritual energy. This is called the process of sex-sublimation. The Ojas Shakti is used for spiritual Sadhana by the Yogi.
The vital force is closely linked with the nervous system. Hence, it is vitally necessary to preserve it carefully if one desires to have strong nerves.
In the Yoga Shastra it is stated: "The falling of semen brings death; the preservation of it gives life." The semen is the real vitality in man. It is the hidden treasure in him. It gives a glow to the face, strength to the intellect and well being to the entire system. Girls, too, suffer great loss through having unchaste thoughts and giving way to lust. Vital nervous energy is lost. There is a corresponding loss of Veerya in them as well.

The Srutis state that a man’s full life span is a hundred years. This can be achieved only if a person is established in perfect Brahmacharya. It is through the attainment of good conduct only that one can live to a ripe old age and be ever happy and peaceful. Even if all other qualities may be lacking, good conduct alone will ensure longevity.
You must have pure character, otherwise you will lose your vital energy or Veerya. An early death will be the result.
Another important point to remember is that the secret of long life lies in the choice of pure food and drink, chastity, temperance, sobriety and a cheerful and optimistic outlook on life. So, gluttons, drunkards and those given to idleness and laziness, cannot hope to have long life.

According to psychological and natural laws, the length of human life, or any life, should be at least five times the period necessary to reach full growth. The horse grows for a period of about three years and lives to be about twelve or fourteen. The camel grows for eight years and lives to be forty. Man grows for about twenty to twenty-five years. If all accidents are counted out, his normal duration of life should be not less than one hundred years.
This tallies very well with the advice of the Hindu Holy Scriptures that Brahmacharya should be practised for the first twenty-five years. During the period of growth there is not to be any loss of the vital fluid.
There are some rare cases where people have attained longevity and high intellectual powers despite their loose, immoral ways. This is obviously due to their past Karma. But they would have been still more powerful and brilliant through the practice of Brahmacharya.
http://www.hinduism.co.za/celibacy.htm

*edit*
This looks like a good book:
Eros, Consciousness and Kundalini
http://www.vedicbooks.net/eros-consciousness-and-kundalini-p-469.html

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Johnny
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posted August 03, 2007 03:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like a pretty boring century.

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26taurus
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posted August 03, 2007 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message
..how'd i know that was coming?

Hi Johnny,

Yes, it does sound that way on the surface doesnt it?

All the best of love and sex to you!

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Johnny
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posted August 03, 2007 08:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi, 26taurus.

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maklhouf
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posted August 05, 2007 08:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Re tantrism or tao-ism:
The Tao-ist masters loved sexual energy and liked to practise in brothels because there was so much of it there.
I'm wondering if sexually transmitted diseases did not exist in those far-off days, or if the benefits outweighed the disadvantages.

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The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
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26taurus
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posted August 05, 2007 10:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Great question. I've often wondered if the appearance of STDs, sexual dysfunction or disease had anything to do with the misuse and abuse of sexual energies or the disappearance of the divinity within it.

I have not studied much on the Tantric path - buddhist, taoist or yogic. All of the eastern religions or traditions are rooted in the Indian religions. I believe the original meaning of tantra is now largely misunderstood.

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maklhouf
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posted August 05, 2007 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Something of an overlap with health and healing, I beleive that diseases now sexually transmitted began life as ordinary epidemics. Rather than being wiped out, they weny "underground" as STDs

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The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
Matthew 21:42

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26taurus
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posted August 05, 2007 11:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Now that is something to think about! Thanks.

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26taurus
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posted August 05, 2007 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message
..something i read this morning (not sure where to put it. i think it kind of fits here) :

Throughout the ages, the strong motivating force of human love has been expressed in diverse ways - filial, conjugal, friendly, family, serviceful, humanitarian. All human love is borrowed from Divine Love, but by comparison is a meager expression.
-Paramahansa Yogananda

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maklhouf
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posted August 08, 2007 02:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I agree with that

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The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
Matthew 21:42

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26taurus
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posted August 08, 2007 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
The rest of it goes:

"Dissatisfied with the imperfections of human love, man finally turns toward the perfect love of God. As the love of His children is the one thing the Lord is seeking, it is that devotion, freely given - in whatever form of expression, endeavor, or worship - that brings His Divine response. He makes Himself known to a seeker in a measure commensurate with that person's mentality and capacity to receive."

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maklhouf
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posted August 08, 2007 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Though true, these things are bad for romance. A beautiful woman needs and deserves to be worshipped, but I never forget that even the best romance is a poor reflection of divine love. That's why I'm such an unsuccessful lover!

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The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
Matthew 21:42

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26taurus
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posted August 08, 2007 05:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I know just what you mean, mak. And no, not very good for romance.

"Man should strive to see the God in woman, and to help her realize her spiritual nature. He should make her feel that she is with him not merely to satisfy his sensual appetite, but as a companion whom he respects and regards as an expression of the Divine. And woman should look upon man in the same way."

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artlovesdawn
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posted August 26, 2007 08:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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posted August 27, 2007 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
A little arguing won't kill you.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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posted August 28, 2007 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message
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maklhouf
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posted August 29, 2007 01:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message
To "Whom" ALD

Now to your point. I have never met a beautiful woman who did not want to be worshipped for that, and it is a churlish man who denies her. This applies to the most dedicated feminists as well as girly girls, and isn't it what romance is all about?

Sorry about your hubby. British men are the least romantic in the world. I'm finding it hard to see God in any human being at present. I don't know that He lives on the inside anyway.

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The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
Matthew 21:42

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maklhouf
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It was, of course, insufferable of me to correct your grammar. I do apologise, but if there is anything that turns me on nowadays it is hearing English spoken perfectly, and Americans do that much better than the English. I beleive the English spoken in middle America is regarded as the purest in the world.
My signature changes with the significance of the quotations, I have a circle of about six I draw from. They are dreadfully personal. but I see the stone that the builders rejected everywhere, doing very nicely thank you. I am much sustained by my familiarity with the Bible.

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The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
Matthew 21:42

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This quote is from Hadees - e - Kudsi meaning saying of Allah as told us by the prophet. It is not part of Quran, maklhouf.


Allah (God) says that he do not permeate/enter anything except the broken heart of a man ( OR woman)


As far as Jesus is concerned, we Muslims love and revere him as a true Prophet of Allah.

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maklhouf
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posted September 01, 2007 07:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Is that from the quran? Do let us have some more quotes!

ALD, Jesus was speaking personally when he quoted that, but the earlier quotation may well have had a more esoteric bent.
The most telling example I see around me at the moment is kids getting their higher examination results. Heartbreak at bad results often turns to victory in later years, when the rejection is seen to lead to better things


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