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unconscious honey
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posted November 11, 2008 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unconscious honey     Edit/Delete Message
Is it possible??? I love my kitty so much and I want him to be around for a while. I must say, I can tell he is aging... it is the most bazaar thing, and the saddest.

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fieryscales
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posted November 11, 2008 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fieryscales     Edit/Delete Message
I say, if humans can acheive immortality, animals surely can

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Chrispy
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posted November 11, 2008 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chrispy     Edit/Delete Message
This is actually something I've thought a lot about unconscious honey and I believe it is possible. In my case I have this cat who's been around for lets just say for a while and a couple years ago you could really tell age was getting to him. After figuring out about creative thought and and immortality I just starting envisioning him younger and just treating him so and now he looks and acts as healthy as when he was like 4-5. Now when anyone asks about his age I just say he's in his prime or young or something like that.

I think it's also because of just being in the presence of immortals and young people alike.

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Randall
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posted November 12, 2008 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Biologically, it is more than plausible; several aquatic species have no death genes and live ageless until a predator, accident, or some disease kills them. That means (if you believe in evolution) that some species randomly became immortal. As the evolution theorists would say: "That definitely has survival value."

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unconscious honey
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posted November 13, 2008 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unconscious honey     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the responses!!!!!

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bunnies
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posted November 18, 2008 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Don't you just love the way animals just get on with it?
They don't worry about transits, planetary interference, their Moon conjunct whatever.
No! Put an animal in a given situation and they will just adapt.
Live in the moment.
Two weeks later they will just be
"hey my new life? I am getting on with it just fine!

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unconscious honey
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posted November 23, 2008 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unconscious honey     Edit/Delete Message
haaha

I know, right?!

That's why I am so crazy about my cat, he's so much more than just a cat. He's a wonderful friend; very sensitive and incredibly perceptive!

Bunnies, do you "have" any animals??

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bunnies
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posted November 24, 2008 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Not at the moment honey but my favourite pet was my rabbit Stuart who taught me a lot about life (I have rambled on about him in other threads)

He was a noble soul and just had the best attitude to life. He just got on with it and took his moments of bliss whenever he could and his not so blissful moments with equanimity.

Iused to wach him lying in the sun, his feet stretched out, one floppy ear over his face, not a care in the world.

Did he worry about whether I would bring his food on time? No!
If the weather was grim. No!
If his Saturn was squaring up to Chiron with dark Lilith overtones?
Definitely not!

He just trusted in the Universe to provide.
God I miss him!

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unconscious honey
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posted November 25, 2008 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unconscious honey     Edit/Delete Message
you crack me up, Bunnies!

I know, I love watching my babe, Noir, sunbathe! It's so beautiful..... so pure.

But, yes, I understand exactly how you feel.

I find rabbits to be quite interesting. But I have to say, the idea of people buying rabbits at the pet stores and keeping them in cages, really disturbs me. They are such active and curious creatures, and they need to be as free as possible. What did you do with your bunnie friend?

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bunnies
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posted November 25, 2008 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Stuart in a cage??? Perish the thought.
No he ran free in my large garden with a hutch at night for shelter but he wouldn't let us close the door.
He once ate 180 quids worth of plants I had landscaped the garden with, in two days.

My then husband was furious but even he loved Stuart so he was quickly forgiven (not Stuart, the ex hubby for daring to raise his voice at my rabbit!)

He was so trusting. Didn't seem to be afraid of all the things rabbits should be afraid of and he loved a Rich Tea biscuit.

I got him from a rabbit sanctuary and he was about 2 then and I had him for 8 years.
I held him in my arms when he died and he just lay there looking up at me and I felt his soul leave...truly.

The best thing you can do with animals is to let them live as naturally as possible and just love them.

And I know I don't have to tell you that honey xx

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posted November 25, 2008 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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unconscious honey
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posted November 28, 2008 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unconscious honey     Edit/Delete Message
hahaha I laughed so hard when I read this! Thank you!!!!!!!!! Tea biscuits for bunnies --- absolutely love it! Noir loves watermelon, he literally eats it!

May I ask, how did your babe die? ......... do you feel like nothing could replace him, and that's why you essentially have not gotten another animal?

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unconscious honey
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posted November 28, 2008 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unconscious honey     Edit/Delete Message
oo he was probably just old, right? 8 is old for rabbits! duh

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unconscious honey
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posted November 28, 2008 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unconscious honey     Edit/Delete Message
And Bunnies, I wanted to tell you that the same kinda happened to me with my childhood dog. He was dying of old age and the night before he died I came home and I laid next to him and just rubbed him, and I felt his soul releasing. It was incredible. I saw the tinkle in his eyes. He had a fantastic life!

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maklhouf
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posted January 09, 2009 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maklhouf     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Did he worry about whether I would bring his food on time? No!
If the weather was grim. No!
If his Saturn was squaring up to Chiron with dark Lilith overtones?
Definitely not!

He just trusted in the Universe to provide.



Haha, this illustrates the crazy mindset of those who think people are animals. You would never tolerate a human being who did this. You would say, "Lazybones, get a job!"
We are more than animals.

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bunnies
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posted January 09, 2009 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
I agree and animals are not happy having "humaness" allotted to them.
Ever watched the Dog Whisperer?
How many people feel they are being kind when in fact they are just making their poor dogs anxious.
Having said that malkhouf (and nice that you popped back!) have you thought that maybe they have discovered something that we permanently seek?
The art of living in the NOW?

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katatonic
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posted January 09, 2009 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
1) RANDALL - which species were you talking about? i would love to check this out...

2) i have had many animals in my life but they all ultimately died. however for the most part they also lived WAAAAY longer than the vets thought possible. and i had a black moor (black fantail carpfish) who lived in my fish tank who, after surviving several of his brothers (or sisters) turned gold (to blend in with the other fish in the tank!) and lived many healthy years longer than any other fish i ever had.

wonders never cease!!

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