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Topic: Imagine the kind of World it would be, if we were all Immortals.
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jonahc
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From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 15, 2010 06:12 PM
  
Imagine the kind of world it would be if we were all immortals. Would that not be great. No more reports of war, murders, rape, torture, and other atrocities.We would all be in perfect health, eternaly young. Bursting with joy. All this and a lot more would be possible if we all spread the good news, about eternal life. IP: Logged |
jonahc
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From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 11, 2010 12:47 PM
Happy days indeedIP: Logged |
BanxManx
Knowflake Posts: 166
From: Venus
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 07, 2010 10:13 AM
Why would murder, torture and rape stop just because of immortality?IP: Logged |
jonahc
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 07, 2010 11:33 AM
By becoming an immortal it takes away the evil in your heart and mind.IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 07, 2010 06:55 PM
Instant Karma makes anyone behave.------------------
"Everything I eat has been proved by some doctor or other to be a deadly poison, and everything I don't eat has been proved to be indispensable for life. But I go marching on."--George Bernard Shaw IP: Logged |
Cancer/Scorpio729
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From: 6,000 feet above sea level
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted December 07, 2010 08:20 PM
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Instant Karma makes anyone behave.
I agree with that. But there may be some holes to it we don't yet see because we're only thinking theoretically. We may get bored of it all. Commit crimes for the sake of seeing what it feels like to recieve something bad. Or if you do get beyond that point, why would you stay on Earth? This planet is not meant to be one of complete happiness. We come here to learn.It would be wonderful, just not something found on Earth I guess. I may be overthinking things a bit. IP: Logged |
BanxManx
Knowflake Posts: 166
From: Venus
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Instant Karma makes anyone behave.
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BanxManx
Knowflake Posts: 166
From: Venus
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by jonahc:
By becoming an immortal it takes away the evil in your heart and mind.
Why do you think that by becoming immortal it takes away the evil in your heart and mind? IP: Logged |
jonahc
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 06:44 AM
By becoming an immortal you automatically come under the law of karma, instant karma. By taking a life, you'll lose your life. By blinding someone, you will be made blind. etc.IP: Logged |
emitres
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Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by BanxManx:
Why do you think that by becoming immortal it takes away the evil in your heart and mind?
just my own thoughts on this but if there is true evil within your heart and mind immortality is not achievable... an "evil" soul would quite simply not have the option to be immortal by the "rules" of the soul contract ------------------
If you pull it too tightly, the string will break. IP: Logged |
jonahc
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 01:09 PM
I think most mortals have the capacity for true evil. An immortal may be tempted to carry out an evil act or acts, but they know the consequences. Instant karma. By the way, whats a soul contract. I've never heard of that before.IP: Logged |
emitres
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Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by jonahc:
I think most mortals have the capacity for true evil. An immortal may be tempted to carry out an evil act or acts, but they know the consequences. Instant karma. By the way, whats a soul contract. I've never heard of that before.
i don't necessarily agree with the first part - i think humans, in general, make bad decisions, not evil ones... as with anything, there are exceptions... immortality requires enlightenment - you need to be " in light"... karma does play a role, & the recognition of that is a step into the light... however, we tend to over-simply it by saying " if you do good, good things will come and if you do bad, bad things will come " which can ultimately lead to us judging others... soul contract - i usually use the word agreement instead.. basically it's the agreement your soul made to incarnate here on earth to fulfill a certain purpose, learn certain lessons etc ... ------------------
If you pull it too tightly, the string will break. IP: Logged |
BanxManx
Knowflake Posts: 166
From: Venus
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by jonahc:
By becoming an immortal you automatically come under the law of karma, instant karma. By taking a life, you'll lose your life. By blinding someone, you will be made blind. etc.
How do you know this? IP: Logged |
jonahc
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 02:51 PM
I'm talking about actual evil acts like Genocide for instance. Its certainly a decision one has to make to carry out such a heinous crime. But behind it one has to be truely evil. Don't you agree.IP: Logged |
jonahc
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 03:02 PM
Banx, most of what I know I read in Star Signs. Have you read it yourself.IP: Logged |
emitres
Knowflake Posts: 137
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Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by jonahc:
I'm talking about actual evil acts like Genocide for instance. Its certainly a decision one has to make to carry out such a heinous crime. But behind it one has to be truely evil. Don't you agree.
yes... this would fall into the exceptions that i had mentioned... such a "soul" would not be able to manifest physical immortality
i would question whether such beings even have a soul... have you read " The Spear of Destiny" by Trevor Ravenscroft? ------------------
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jonahc
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 08, 2010 10:38 PM
No, I have not read Spear of Destiny. Whats it about. If it sounds good I may give it a Read.IP: Logged |
emitres
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posted December 08, 2010 11:38 PM
jonahc - i promise to come back tomorrow and fill you in... i found it to be a very worthwhile read... ------------------
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BanxManx
Knowflake Posts: 166
From: Venus
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 09, 2010 09:15 AM
I haven't read star signs. I am also not sure if I would say that a person who commits genocide is evil but rather ignorant. It could be completely justified in their mind as for a good cause. How can you completely punish someone for doing what they think is right? How does anyone know if what they are doing is right or not?IP: Logged |
emitres
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Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 09, 2010 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by BanxManx:
How can you completely punish someone for doing what they think is right? How does anyone know if what they are doing is right or not?
there are universal rights and wrongs that your soul is aware of... that's the whole point... it really doesn't matter how one justifies it, taking another life is wrong... even if aforementioned person truly and sincerely believes to be right ------------------
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emitres
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posted December 09, 2010 11:34 AM
ok jonahc  the spear of Destiny is believed to be the spearhead used by Longinus to pierce the side of Christ and end his misery... this spear is "invested with occult powers" Trevor Ravenscroft writes about how the spear came to be in the possession of Hitler... i was trying to locate in the book where Rudolph Steiner talks about Himmler having no soul - the occult proofs if you will... this is what enabled Himmler to carry out the atrocities... ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 09, 2010 12:34 PM
Genocide is no worse than ordinary murder. You are evil if you kill one person or a thousand.IP: Logged |
jonahc
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 09, 2010 02:57 PM
Emitres, The same was said about Dr, Joseph Mengels ( I think thats how you spell his name) that his eyes were empty and lifeless. The lights were on but there were nobody in.IP: Logged |
BanxManx
Knowflake Posts: 166
From: Venus
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 09, 2010 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by emitres:
there are universal rights and wrongs that your soul is aware of... that's the whole point... it really doesn't matter how one justifies it, taking another life is wrong... even if aforementioned person truly and sincerely believes to be right
It doesn't matter if your soul is aware of it or not. If you are not conscious of your soul, then you aren't going to be conscious of universal morality. There have been many men who have taken life who think they are doing so for a good cause. Abortion clinic bombers are one example. They are committing the ultimate good in their mind. How can you punish someone for this? In the afterlife they are shown how it is wrong and the pain that it causes is punishment enough. IP: Logged |
jonahc
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: Glasgow
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 09, 2010 03:46 PM
Hi Banx,How do you know for sure that they are shown the error of their ways in the afterlife. IP: Logged |
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