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Randall
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posted March 18, 2011 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer is a horrible dis-ease, and I am not trying to downplay that fact; nor am I trying to glamorize it in any way. But the things scientists are saying about death seem to be contradicted by cancer. First, there is the Hayflick limit. This is the number of times a cell replicates before dying. This limit is supposedly fixed and static. Secondly, humans (and most other species) have death genes. Cancer defies both of these so-called constants. Yes, cancerous cells are runaway and out of control--stealing the nutrition from normal cells--but they replicate with no limit. They are, essentially, immortal. And that is something that oncology might accidently stumble upon serendipitously; in fact, they are dancing all around it without even knowing so.

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posted March 18, 2011 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`m not sure I understand what you are implying.

Is it immortal cancer cells are akin to normal cells which are also immortal? Once that is dicovered, understood and replicated, the human body is then deemed immortal?

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posted March 18, 2011 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just saying that the idea of immortality is nonsensical to most scientists; however, the proof refuting two of their main aging theories are staring them right in the face...and maybe through scientific means, perpetual longevity may be achieved. But cancer cells are renegade cells, so that is immortality to the extreme.

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posted March 19, 2011 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer cells defy the Hayflick limit. If we can figure out how that happens, it should be possible to turn off aging scientifically. It is probably related to the M1 and M2 genes (the death genes).

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posted March 19, 2011 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, I understand you now

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posted March 27, 2011 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman

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posted March 28, 2011 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bad for not explaining better.

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"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman

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posted March 29, 2011 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
All deaths are suicides
That quote didn't originate with Linda. I forget who said it first.


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posted March 29, 2011 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone else may have said that all deaths are suicides, but that longer quote is directly from Linda in Star Signs.

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posted June 08, 2011 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DangerGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've battled cancer. It totally sucks. And the "cure," chemo, is even worse.

But if someone used it to discover a way to make people healthier, I'm all for that.

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posted June 09, 2011 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dangergirl, how are you doing now?

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posted July 05, 2011 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 28, 2011 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too Dangergirl. Twice for me.

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posted July 29, 2011 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twice?

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posted July 29, 2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellygirl7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, you are a genius! I completely understand what you're saying. But what separates cancer cells from normal cells?

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posted July 29, 2011 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They have no death gene...or it is turned off. The problem is they go renegade and steal nutrition from the rest of the body. They are somehow cut off from the intelligence of the body.

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posted July 30, 2011 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Progeria is another key to discovering the secret to aging.

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posted August 04, 2011 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinal Arbiter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would not be surprised if a corrupt ruling power already realizes this, and directs science to pursue the destruction of these cells to deliberately hinder our immortal potential.

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posted August 05, 2011 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be.

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posted August 05, 2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for markg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if any of you have read this article, but it certainly applies to what you are talking about, which is the mechanics of the immortality of cancer cells -
http://www.ramtha.com/newsletter/vol5/issue11/SP1.html

This is my first post, and I'm glad to see that there are other physical immortals out there, for it is we who shall inherit the earth and be its caretakers during the coming 1,000 years of peace that are soon to arrive, prophesied in the Revelation and by Meher Baba.

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posted August 05, 2011 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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posted August 06, 2011 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for markg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Randall -

Initially it looked like my reply to your post didn't go through, so I got confused and posted the same thing under new topic instead. Sorry for the mix-up.

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posted August 06, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries. It's worthy of its own string.

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posted February 13, 2012 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CANCER VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgbdNNfotwM&feature=player_embedded
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posted February 14, 2012 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks.

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