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StarLover33
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posted March 02, 2003 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone else feel like these shows are very debasing to our society? I mean to the point, where you starting to get worried as to where we are headed as a whole?

I don't know maybe it's nothing, but then again, Joe Millionaire is a show about greed and pretending to love for fame. What about the Bachelor and the Bachelorette? Do you feel like they're debasing love and sex? We really need to be more creative then this...there are other ways to make people entertained.

I don't want to sound like a prude, but what does everyone else think? That new show, Married By America, come on... it's getting so sad. They're just so debasing! And the reason is for fame and money. You might think that this will run it's course, but I'm beginning to doubt that, becuase the more crazy they get, the more interesting they'll become, and you can't stop yourself from watching...it's impossible!

These shows are like double-edged swords that are incapable of being destroyed. If you hate'm they get bigger, if you love'm then well you know...

What's next?...Rank The Greatest In Bed?

These people have Twin Selves and we need to reunite all Twin Selves for Heaven to reign on Earth. That's why I can't stand these shows getting so vulgur and sexual. I know it's entertaining but think of magnetic attraction and the fact that there is nothing else to watch.

-StarLover

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proxieme
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posted March 02, 2003 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Well, if they're addictive but debasing, don't watch 'em.
That's why God made books (and imaginations). C'mon, you're a fellow Pisces, that's second nature to ya, right?
Barring that, you could then say that that's why there're friends and family, or stars to gaze at and the cold winter wind to slap against your face, or tomes and poetry waiting to be scribbled and typed, or...or...any one of the myriad other wonders of life that are here to see and touch and, if we're really lucky, thoroughly immerse ourselves in

While I probably lean more towards the idea that such shows are harmful in one way or another, those participating may or may not feel degraded during and afterwards - and whatever lessons are attached to the experience are theirs to learn, not mine to force.

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Aphrodite
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posted March 02, 2003 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Freedom of Speech and Press.

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theFajita3
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posted March 02, 2003 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita3     Edit/Delete Message
Well the truth is things like that, women being with men for money and getting married to them and stuff like that is a reality sometimes. I think it's ok to have it on tv, since like Aphrodite said, freedom of speech, and that is a good thing.

I know what you are saying, like, ok this is what people like to watch so where is our society headed? Honestly, I thought Joe Millionaire was really cute and that is why I watched the last few episodes. Hubba hubba

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N_wEvil
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posted March 02, 2003 11:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message
women like being with men for money? so THATS what i've been doing wrong all these years!

But back on track -

Is it possible TV has replaced religion as the primary method of social control? think about it - people learn how to live their lives from "the box" these days.

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theFajita3
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posted March 03, 2003 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita3     Edit/Delete Message
So true! I'll say! The media is run and owned by the five largest corps in the world. They own everything and we all know subliminal messages are alive and well. Ever notice how once people sit in front of the tv they just can't stop watching, I mean, you ever had it happen where you can't find the remote so you just sit there and watch something you don't even want to because you are glued to the tv. Well I just want to say I am not paranoid and I am not tooooo much of a conspiracy theorist but I do beleive that in the USA at least there is mind control thru television and Lord knows what else.

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RubyRedRam
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posted March 03, 2003 05:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I was turned off TV ever since I found out about blipverts (is that the right word?) and I love nothing more than to immerse myself in a good book. Although....I am a sucker for a bad soap that I can watch when I dont feel like my brain is functioning

BTW blipverts are those flickery images that you dont see that they used in food advertising. Like when the mars bar add comes on and you find yourself walking down to the shop to get one. They are supposedly banned from doing that now but if they could do it in the first place who knows what they do now. Ahhh the joys of technology

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Annie Kuzma
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posted March 03, 2003 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annie Kuzma     Edit/Delete Message
It takes absolutely NO brain function to watch those reality shows.

It really makes women look bad.
Some of them are totaly clueless!!

I married for Love, money can be gone in a day.....


I can't believe the women in the commercials are soooo hard up for dates!!!!

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proxieme
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posted March 03, 2003 08:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message
That's the thing - the vast majority of them aren't. Most of these "average people" are highly screened aspiring actors.

Re: the money thing:
Ugh.
Those chicks give the rest of us a bad name, but, yeah - a surprising number of actual average gals go for just that.

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proxieme
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posted March 03, 2003 01:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Wait, wait - going back - (Fajita)

You think that Joe Millionare guy was cute?
Bleh.
He was a big, pretty ape.

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N_wEvil
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posted March 03, 2003 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
i like my broadband - choose what to look at.

although you still get moronic companies like GAIN trying to install dunderheaded addons

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juniperb
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posted March 03, 2003 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
They all suck!

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theFajita3
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posted March 03, 2003 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita3     Edit/Delete Message
OK at first I didn't think he was cute at all. Then I thought he got kind of cute when he stopped weighing down his hair...but who knows probably subliminal messages were influencing me! LOL Yea red ruby in our last presidential election we found out they put pictures of rats in one advertisement to make one pres look bad. I am so sure the only reason we found out about it was because the opposing side did a little searching for that info, now how about when it's just the people of America, consumers at stake, will they uncover those subliminal messages, NO, not when money is to be made. And yes even though I thought Joe Millionaire was cute I thought it was so stupid for those women to want to be with him solely for his money. But I really think they made themSELVES look money hungry not everyone.

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RubyRedRam
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posted March 03, 2003 09:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message
One thing I dont understand with those girls is how they can go for a guy who is choosing out of a bunch of women.
Are any of them aries? I mean, if it were ME i'd be like: 'he didnt see me and call this shinanigans off and declare his undying love for me?? SCREW you guys...I'm going home...'
I couldnt think of anything worse than competing for a mans attention like a bunch of seagulls trying to get the last bit of bread.
I remeber this guy I was dating once said he was thinking about going back to his ex but needed some time to think about who he wanted to be with.....hahahahah see ya later matey......

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Lost Leo
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posted March 03, 2003 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lost Leo     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with you Starlover, they are debasing society.

There was something on the O'Reilly Factor about how these shows don't represent the real world & are terrible role models for teens(who are their largest viewer audience)

But sh*t, I guess it doesn't matter as long as the parent is there to watch it with them & talk over the issues with their teen... that is if their teen will even talk to them. Teenagers...

PS- I LOVE Joe Millionaire for the fact it PROVES how bad some women can get!!! I mean the 2nd place lady performed oral sex on him behind the fence for God's sake! That is AWFUL!
I love you ladies that are true to heart & wouldn't blink and eye at the money a man makes, but there are so few of you in this world... especially the older the woman gets. But I'm probably just biased because I'm in SoCal, the hotbed of superficiality

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proxieme
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posted March 03, 2003 11:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Actual conversation before a class of mine today:

(The subject of a girl's engagement ring veered onto the subject of marriage itself)
(...some stuff I forgot...)
A guy I know: Yeah, but they really mean, "For richer or for, um, richer - once you get to the poorer part, they're (women) outta there!"
Me: That's...horrible. That's not true...
Guy: Yeah it is - that's just the way it goes.

Another guy friend of mine said, "Well, women might be 'sex objects', but men are 'success objects'."
Eek.
That's the way so many guys that I talk to think.
I'm sooo sorry ya'll have had experiences that have "taught" you that.
Big hug.

I'm naive about this, I guess, but that's sorta better than the alternative.

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