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Topic: Urgent help needed...
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WychOfAvalon Knowflake Posts: 633 From: Los Angeles Registered: Feb 2003
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posted July 25, 2003 11:40 PM
Hey all,I need some help, all. A friend of our family named Jennifer is having a lot of trouble right now. She is engaged to a great guy but a few months ago his sister was violently murdered. Well, Jennifer was fine until about Tuesday when she complained about dreams of this girls murder. Now, Jennifer was not aware of any of the details of this murder or even where it took place, etc. On Wednesday she was admitted into a psych ward because she’s just had a total breakdown. Jennifer is GONE. She is babbling and talking about details of the murder itself… almost as if she’s possessed. Apparently today she managed to cut her wrists.. I don’t know how she managed that while at a hospital but I guess they thought she wouldn’t try to harm herself. This is a person with no history of anything remotely like this and obviously it’s happened very suddenly. One day she was Jennifer and the next day she is channeling this murdered girl. I am at a loss with what to do but surely there must be something to do to help?! Anyone with suggestions? Of course, it’s urgent. She’s on a downward spiral. Thankyou ~~ Amber ~~
------------------ I haven’t been very well.. Feeling kind of seasick.. Tryin’ to follow your contrail.. You’re flying miles above my head.. While I’m dreaming underwater sleeping in a whale.. When the stars begin to shine.. Let me be in this number.. And then it comes within a wave.. Like LSD to phantasy.. Like gasoline into a fire.. Like virgin blood to a vampire.. And everybody starts to cry IP: Logged |
lovelyleo Knowflake Posts: 14 From: SoCal Registered: Jul 2003
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posted July 26, 2003 02:30 AM
Gosh Amber- sounds hard. Do you know anyone who can do a cleansing on her? Rid her of any demons that might be torturing the poor girl? Has the perpetrator been aprehended? Maybe you know a mentally strong person who can speak to her and try to guide Jennifer through this. Such a scary thing to happen to an unsuspecting girl. In the hospital they probably have her doped up- for her own safety. She needs a guide. I'm no professional, but that's what I would want if I were in her spot. Someone to mentally hold my hand and get me to the other side of this experience. Sending you love and strength--- tazitaIP: Logged |
hrj777 Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Anywhere, nowhere ... Registered: Dec 2002
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posted July 26, 2003 06:36 AM
WychofAvalon,I'm sorry you are going through all this with your friend. I wish I could give you more spiritual advice, but from a medical perspective, a friend of mine went through something similar. He was put into a hospital and they could not figure out what was wrong with him. The doctors said he had dementia. It turned out that it was the prescription medications he was on. They interacted and made him hallucinate. Even the doctor's didn't figure that out, one of his family members did. I hope your friend gets better. I will send healing light her way. Heidi IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 920 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted July 26, 2003 07:15 AM
Wych, I'm really sorry about your friend It sounds to me like she's having an astral "attached" to her and she's too weak to cut it off, so she needs an intervention of some sort because this being is draining her energy. I'm not an expert on this subject, but I had a friend who had an astral attached to her, feeding on her energy, but it wasn't critical at that time yet. Now I don't know, we lost touch. I know that in the first astral "field", the one closest to us, there are the most tortured souls, of murdered people, of the ones that committed suicide etc., and some lesser entities that need energy to survive. It seems to me that your friend is the victim of such an entity or, more probably, of the soul of this murdered girl. But as I said, I'm no expert, you should look into this yourself and trust your intuition. sending Jennifer and light IP: Logged |
juniperb Knowflake Posts: 6830 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Mar 2002
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posted July 26, 2003 08:58 AM
We can all pray for the divine to wrap her in white lite,surround her with her S and guides; to heal, protect and guide her. Sending love, lite and prayers to Jennifer. {{{hugs}}} to you too Wych. juniperb IP: Logged |
sweetpeas Knowflake Posts: 924 From: Plainfield, IN Registered: Sep 2001
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posted July 26, 2003 09:08 AM
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WychOfAvalon Knowflake Posts: 633 From: Los Angeles Registered: Feb 2003
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posted July 26, 2003 09:22 AM
thanks all I can't sleep so I'm up here fretting. Thank you all for your love, light, and advice. I appreciate it so much.lovelyleo ~ i don't know anyone that can do a cleansing. Unfortunately we now live on the opposite coast from her.. we're in LA and she's in NY. The person that murdered her fiance's sister was never caught. IP: Logged |
Twin Lady Knowflake Posts: 624 From: USA Registered: Jan 2003
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posted July 26, 2003 09:54 AM
Wych I don't know a whole lot about this type of problem, but what's been said here makes a lot of sense. Maybe if several approaches simultaneously are taken it would help, ie...physical check for possible drug interaction, with plenty of prayer, white healing light and protection sent too. Getting her name on a prayer chain/list, local or otherwise, could help; you could contact online, The Distant Healing Network and/or other groups of this type. I will keep you, your friend and her fiance in my prayers. IP: Logged |
trillian Knowflake Posts: 4050 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted July 26, 2003 10:41 AM
All I can add is that I will wish wellness to your friend Jennifer......and I agree that perhaps the best things to do might be to aggressively mix healings, ie looking for drug interaction problems, medical problems, and natural/spiritual healers. IP: Logged |
anafaery Knowflake Posts: 864 From: west coast, yummy rain forest, canada Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 26, 2003 05:28 PM
i am so sorry to hear this, how awful i have known/been involved with people with psychiatric difficulties. i was in the realm of mental health myself, although i took more of a peer role as i was a pretty together person... my problems werent anything like schizophrenia or the like, i suffer from post traumatic stress syndrome which is a little bit unique. i have known a lot of people who have had mental breakdowns though... even within my family. its a scary thing to see. i feel so much compassion for this poor girl. ive also done a lot of independant study into criminology and what being a victim entails... i plan on going to college sometime in the near future to get some sort of degree so i can one day work in victims services. anyway that isnt important, but i wanted to share because i have a unique understanding of some aspects of these two fields and their convergence.i wont touch the metaphysical although the points are certainly valid. i dont get the feeling that she is 'channeling' the murdered girl... and we cant dismiss that this episode came from within her. often in psychotic breaks something within us cannot remain benign due to stress, and perhaps the stress of knowing what happened to her fiances sister just weighed so heavy on her that she broke... hmm how can i say this better? ok, sometimes, when something very traumatic touches us in a personal way, we dont know how to deal with it, especially when we are sensitive to people in general. we can internalize the feelings and our mind just snaps under the pressure. i dont know if that is what is going on in her case, but really i think she needs time. if they keep her on medication for awhile then i guess thats ok, if it gives her some peace and keeps her safe. i dont really advocate those strong anti psychotic medications for prolonged use though, they have some nasty effects. she might have picked up on the facts of the murder without anyones knowledge. do you know if the facts she is saying are true? her descriptions of them? it was obviously bothering her as she was having dreams about it, dreams are (in my belief anyway) our subconscious' way of alerting us to a potential issue within ourselves. i get the feeling that she somehow found out some things about the murder, but didnt feel comfortable bringing it up with her fiance or anyone (probably didnt want to worry or upset anyone), and was forced to deal with these thoughts alone, and well, noone really can in such a serious and awful matter. you gotta talk about these things because they are a hard thing to bear alone. she held it in, and her poor mind couldnt take the pressure, and so it just erupted. thats just what i feel about it... sending light is a good thing, and i will keep her in my thoughts too. you could post this in the healing forum too, thats a thought, might have a few more people notice this thread there. i think she needs time and therapy personally. someone to talk to who is trained in psychological support who can guide her through this very traumatic time. i think that she will probably heal after some time goes by and she realizes that no one blames her, i just get this strong feeling of guilt, not bad guilt as in she did something wrong, but i feel almost that she might have found out some information about what happened to the girl and feels guilty for keeping it in or not telling her fiance that she found this information out. does that make sense? eek. i dunno if i make sense. i could be so totally wrong, heck for all i know the murdered girl might have inhabited her with her 'astral'. i just dont feel thats whats happening in this case. did she ever say anything as to the murderers identity? description? anything like that? or just facts about what happened to the girl and how she was killed? i just really dont think its a case of channeling. if she was 'channeling' im sure there would be a specific reason for the murdered girl to choose her, if only to give information to help them catch who killed her. if she is just babbling about things like the injuries i wouldnt think that it was a case of channelling but a person who simply couldnt handle what she knew. in any event... jennifer is not gone. she is still there, shes just not able to be herself right now and needs helpand support. it would help to tell her over and over that she is safe. if not in person, even as an affirmation, like a prayer to *her*. if you just meditate for a few minutes and say in your mind or out loud 'jennifer, you are safe. jennifer, you are cared about.' a few times every day. i shall do this. lots of healing thoughts going her way! to you too... this must be hard for you *hugs* ~faery IP: Logged |
N_wEvil unregistered
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posted July 26, 2003 05:43 PM
I hope you both pull through - you'll be in my thoughts
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anafaery Knowflake Posts: 864 From: west coast, yummy rain forest, canada Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 26, 2003 06:05 PM
also i forgot to mention...it could be that she has worried about how this will affect her future marriage too. imagine this scenario... ill use generic names just to illustrate a point as i dont know the details with jennifer, but i just wanted to show how things can affect people in ways that we might not realize. mary meets john. they fall in love. they plan a wedding, and are happy. mary has lots of hope for the future, for happiness, for starting her life together with john. john does too. everything looks rosy. johns sister gets brutally murdered. its a shock to all, and obviously is hard to deal with. mary tries so hard to be there for john, and her future inlaws. she doesnt push anyone with questions or with her needs, just listens when people are talking about it, or respects their need to not talk about it, she gives john her love and emotional support the best way she knows how. mary starts to feel bad herself after awhile. she is so intent on helping others, she forgets that perhaps she too needs some support as well. she doesnt have anyone to talk to, shes been a very normal person her whole life, never needed a therapist or anything, and she doesnt quite know what to do. perhaps she was taught to grin and bear it, i dont know. in any event she feels the stress of the crime weighing on her more everyday. john is great, hes understanding and to spare her doesnt bring up the murder very much, he also was looking forward to their life together and doesnt want to mar it in any way. neither does mary. after awhile though, she starts feeling worried. they have 'moved on' but even though they dont discuss it, and act happy to each other, its still hanging there like a black cloud over their lives, neither of them can truly forget. perhaps mary has some very normal thoughts about how this will impact her future marriage, how can it be a happy occasion now, with this looming in the background? a ghost at a wedding isnt a very happy thing. not to mention that a wedding is usually the most important day in a womans life. her day will have a bit of a depressing feel to it, perhaps this is what she thinks. so now, all her plans for the future seem tainted by this horrible event. she is suffering too, and shes not being selfish by being hurt that the murder impacts her life and hopes and dreams too. its natural, and she doesnt blame the sister, but she is a victim too, especially if she knew the sister. shes also a victim in another way, because really, her happiness and joy of a new beginning in a marriage has been stolen. she never expected this to happen when she accepted johns proposal, how could anyone? murder isnt a universal human experience (thank god for that). its a unique one that only ones who have experience with can understand. mary hasnt... and she is having troubles sorting out all the emotions around it. mary starts having dreams about it as she isnt resolved inside. she doesnt really talk to anyone about it, perhaps she mentions shes had these dreams, but in an offhand 'oh isnt this weird' manner. she doesnt want to make anyone worry about her. it wasnt *her* sister, perhaps she denies herself the fact that her feelings matter too. sure it wasnt her sister, but as i said, it doesnt mean she isnt suffering with it. perhaps she pooh poohs herself, thinks to herself, 'heck id better just buck up, i need to be there for john, i mean hes my future husband and it was HIS sister! he must be feeling WAY worse than i am!'. etc. her dreams are telling her to get help, to talk about it, but she doesnt... so, her mind just eventually cant take anymore. she is hurting badly too... and she has a breakdown. part of her talking about the murder is because she wouldnt let herself talk about it before, and now she has no choice. its been eating away at her. her pain has to be acknowledged and her feelings have to be given support too. another thing... perhaps she was curious as to what happened, but didnt feel she wanted to upset john by asking him about it. maybe she didnt want to cause him further pain on a difficult subject. perhaps thats why she talks about it now, perhaps her mind has filled in the blanks as it were. who among us hasnt sat here at least once where weve filled in the blanks about something we didnt know the facts to, but had a need to understand? its imagination, conjecture, etc... the mind can also imagine/put itself in the place of someone who has suffered. therefore statements like 'i walked here and put this vase down' can occur in psychological breakdowns, when the person experiencing it had nothing of the sort happen, they are just identifying with the subject to understand better or because they are unresolved with it, dont understand it. they try to put themselves in the place so that they might understand. does that make sense? i just feel this is a purely psychological thing... course like i say i dont know all the details but at least its beneficial to think about things from different perspectives. all the best... and well wishes for a smooth recovery for her ~faery IP: Logged |
Mercy Knowflake Posts: 616 From: Of Elvenkind Registered: Jul 2002
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posted July 26, 2003 06:06 PM
Amber, I am so sorry to hear this. I am sure though she is surrounded and helped by her helpers and is guided along the way. Hugs for you too Amber and a big loving embrace for Jennifer . Trust in the universe and stay positive. We are praying for her! IP: Logged |
Lunargirl Knowflake Posts: 1513 From: Registered: Mar 2003
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posted July 27, 2003 01:27 AM
Light to All, Lunargirl IP: Logged |
Ra Moderator Posts: 2078 From: Atlanta Registered: Jun 2005
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