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juniperb
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Posts: 6830
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002

posted August 10, 2004 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Lindaland has been a busy place lately and the posts way up. Lots of thoughts/opinions and energies shared.

Along with that, some sniping, finger pointing and blatant remarks with the cruel intent to hurt. Chitty chats between the Knowflakes (on open air for all to see) with some insights that were quite profound ey? Let me ask, If God/Dess don`t care, why should we?

So Jackbenimble is a moron, so what? If God/dess doesn`t care, why should we

Yes, I know. S/he said it first. Intellectualize or Spiritualized, if God/Dess don`t care......... ??? Why the he*l do we???

We`re sending words/thoughts into the ethers about witchhunts,Spiritual S**ts,evil and some super duper name calling . I believe Linda don`t care, she`s moved on to bigger and better goals. So why do we?

If God/Dess and Linda don`t give a rats patooty, why are we shuffling around here worrying about the other guy? The proverbial splinter vs. the beam in ones own eye? Really, who cares?

BUT, what if God/dess DOES care. What if the behaviors are polluting the ethers? Potentially us, our energies and the ability to share this place set aside in harmony to honor a woman who believed in free expression? What if free expression doesn`t include the venom and uglys seen here?

What if God/Dess cares?

juniperb

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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trillian
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From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003

posted August 10, 2004 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Juni, I absolutely love you.

I don't have the answers.


What if life is already perfect, in its imperfections? What if everything exists to balance itself out?

I believe that everything in the Universe exists because it should. Existence sanctions itself.

Some of us may on occassion like to think we are more spiritually attuned than others, that we own a bigger piece of the Truth.

The only Truth I can really wrap myself around is this: We Are One, But We're Not The Same.

Even more simply: Life Is.
Everything else is just personal definition.

We are all beautiful fools.
It wasn't so long ago that people believed the earth was flat.
It wasn't so long ago that women in the U.S. couldn't vote or own property.

Beliefs Change.

There are people who speak in tongues, there are people who prove their faith with snakes, there are people who follow their leaders on space craft, or drink Kool-Aid out of little cups.

Who am I to judge?



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Sheaa Olein
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From: London
Registered: Jul 2004

posted August 10, 2004 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Ahh Juni A good summation.

I feel God/Dess does care, or God/Dess wouldn't be here.

The way we handle it now is up to LL as a whole. I have said before, it's difficult when some of us don't know each other - assumptions are thrown out there which hurt since intentions or shared experiences are mis-interpreted, and aimed, quite blatently. That hurts, and the response may too, but what to do if it has been started? We are all souls on this, brought together by a love to share good knowledge by Linda Goodman

I wish, I really wish LL will be left to it's own energies. As many of the Knowflakes have said so well, it will have bad and good days, I'm sure it's gone through much worse, if so then it's dealt with at the time. I don't believe in highlighting 'bad', or potentially 'bad' eventualities which in turn create bad eventualities! It's relative to all family situations.

It's just my thing - I have read most responses and really feel why people are angry now. I choose to carry on as I always did, and converse with the souls that I've always conversed with. The rest is/are details.

I think the God/Dess cares,
Sheaa

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"Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything."
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Sheaa Olein
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From: London
Registered: Jul 2004

posted August 10, 2004 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Indeed Trillian You come up with golden nuggets sometimes!!

Who am I to judge?

I believe everything exists to balance out! (I also wish I wasn't at work the majority of the time I reply on LL, so many interuptions)

I've always said, in the words of TuPac (God Bless the dead) -

quote:
Only God can judge me


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Sheaa Olein
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From: London
Registered: Jul 2004

posted August 10, 2004 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
I love many of the posts here - although Starlover I hope you don't mind that I've brough your post over from paras's - 'Confuzzled... Lost... Rambling... HELP!' thread, it's the way you've explained it;


StarLover33
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Posts: 2286
From: King Arthur's Camelot
Registered: Jun 2002
posted August 09, 2004 02:04 PM
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I don't fully understand why anyone can see this place as filled with "negativity" or "it isn't what it used to be". For one thing, four years ago, LindaLand was a lot smaller than it is now, when things get bigger and more popular it becomes much harder to handle. LindaLand is a very large growing apple tree, and all apple trees have a few bad apples in the mix. As a tree gets larger the bad apples become more apparent. But what I think is bad, may be good to you, or the other way around, then the apples become an acquired taste. I like the green ones, and you like the red ones. But becuase I don't like the red ones, does that give me the right to eliminate them? NO, you have to adjust to the ones you may not like, and/or just ignore it completely. Yes, I know what I just wrote is extremely weird, but it fits our predicament. LindaLand is not a bad or a negative place, it's neutral place, that sometimes reflects the atmosphere around us. LindaLand is also like the weather, sometimes there are sunny days, and other times there are stormy days. Sometimes it's slow, sometimes it's fast. LindaLand is one of the most positive places on the internet that incorporates all discussion ranging from Politics to Purple Plates. There are so many forums on this website, the popular ones are always the ones that get the most trouble. Trust me you are not going to find another website, that doesn't have heated arguments and ruthless posts. It's a part of life, live it, learn it, and love it.
-StarLover

This is what's in my head

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Solane Star
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2005

posted August 10, 2004 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Like a good friend of mine used to say
" Its all just an illusion anyway "

I believe we can create anything we what, create, create, create and be fruitfull.

I think you too are beautiful.

Solane Star

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paras
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From: the Heart of It All
Registered: May 2004

posted August 10, 2004 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Juniper, I don't have the answers either, but I like your questions. Even though your post seems to go one direction and then the other, which makes this Libran feel a little dizzy. I already go back and forth.

I don't think it undermines the validity of those questions, either, to make a little side comment: the question "who cares?" (in and of itself, not necessarily here) generally bothers me. I care.

Trillian, I understand what you meant when you said "I believe that everything in the Universe exists because it should. Existence sanctions itself." You said that in a string i was involved with before, in slightly different words, and you actually used the word "all". (I wish you had this time.) Randall expressed the same idea very beautifully in The Most Important Thread On This Site! All is sanctioned; all is permissible. I've also heard it said as "there is no such thing as evil".

True, true, true!

And false, false, false!

I understand the concept, and agree with it on a strictly intellectual basis. But if everything is sanctioned, if all is permissible, that includes the stockpiling of enough nuclear weapons to destroy the Earth. That includes the raping of children. So when I think deeply about what the words "all" and "everything" mean, somehow it just doesn't seem so true anymore. Somehow I just can't bring myself to say that those things are permissible or sanctioned.

It's a quandary. It seems true and false to me at the same time. Maybe it's true to my head and false to my heart? I'm not sure.

So, there ya go. More questions. Still no answers. I'd just like to add that sometimes, that "everything's permissible" line smells like a moral cop-out to me.

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Rainbow~
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From: The Little River Indian Reservation
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posted August 11, 2004 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Everything's permissible?

I don't think so...

Juniperb....I CARE!...I really do and I'm sorry to see you leave...

I'm not sure....but I think I understand...

Much love to you, my friend..

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paras
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From: the Heart of It All
Registered: May 2004

posted August 12, 2004 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Leave!??

Where does it say she's leaving??

--*added*--

I see it now. Dern it, now I feel even worse.

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SunShyne
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Registered: May 2003

posted August 12, 2004 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunShyne     Edit/Delete Message
I'm getting the feeling I didn't miss much while I was away - must have been pretty darn negative if it upset you this much, Juni. I've lost your email addy, can you authorise Randall to send it to me, please?

Loves ya,

SunShyne

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