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Philbird
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posted January 05, 2005 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Sheaa.
Well there are two kinds of opal (that I know of) "Common opal" doesn't have all the colors as the "Precious Opal" that is used for jewlery. Common Opal is rough in texture.
But a precious Opal can be rough as well, it depends on how polished it is. One thing for sure, both will glow under ultraviolet light. It has to be the correct color spectrum though. Sometime go to a gem and mineral show. A lot of times they will have the different spectrum.

If you ever have a chance to purchase a "Geode" do. Crystals are created inside Geodes. (which look like plain old round rocks!) You can crack one open and see what kind of crystal activity has been developing inside. Almost all rock shops or gem shops will have Geodes. Some are HUGE and some are small. The geodes are reasonably priced because you don't know what will be inside.
Every crystal in the crystal family is formed inside a Geode. They also glow under an ultra violet light. Many minerals and Crystals glow under the proper ultraviolet light. Hubby and I have a pretty big collection of Crystals and minerals that we only buy from Rock shops. So we know they are the real thing. You learn along the way by reputable dealers what's what.

Another crystal for cell regeneration is Green Citrine. We just purchased one of these, and they are not very easy to find.

(I had the chance to buy a half pound Herkimer Diamond for $50.00, but hubby said no!) They look exactly like a real Diamond. A dealer was selling off his collection. A normal price for a one karat H.D. is $10.00! They have the same magical properties as the Diamond, but are not as hard. They are also Quartz. They are only found in N.Y.
They are almost as precious as real diamonds.

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posted January 05, 2005 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
P.S. Scrying crystals are usually polished, for a consistant surface. The idea is to be able to see your reflection and what's behind it in the swirls. Look past your reflection...

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 06, 2005 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Wow - Philly you've given me quite a bit there!

At least I've verified one way of checking most crystals out - pure ultra violet light! Actually, the place where my father got my opal from did have an ultra violet light and remember holding up a braclet, what must have been Precious Opal - it changed colour from a green tint to a mauve one - so pretty! Also, I held up the ring I have now (not knowing I'd have it later) and I do recall it glowing a bit.

Now Geode crystals - I never knew these were called Geode!

I remember my mother having a crystal collections, my memory is faint since it was 15 years ago, but I recall she said she'd (somehow) opened a stone once to find beautiful crystal formations inside, and since then had found rocks and asked jewellers to open them!

OK, so you can purchase unopened Geode rocks? Wow that leaves it as a marvellous suprise!

Here I found a picture;

Assuming that all rocks aren't gold on the outside.. how would you know the unopened rocks are Geode's??

Cell regeneration!! That's something I'm very into Green Citrine

Fantastic - is this listed in the book you recommended Philly? I learning so much - methinks I'll aim for a Herkimer by summer!


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Hey miss_apples ~ you know it! Only the best for us rose quartzers!!

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 06, 2005 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Whilst I was pondering over crystals, I thought of frost (snowflakes) being referred to as crystals. I wondered on the definition of what a crystal actually is, and what constitutes something being called a crystal.

So I thought I'd start with a dictionary definition!

Crystal


    1.
  • A homogenous solid formed by a repeating, three-dimensional pattern of atoms, ions, or molecules and having fixed distances between constituent parts.
  • The unit cell of such a pattern
    2.
  • A mineral, especially a transparent form of quartz, having a crystalline structure, often characterized by external planar faces.
    3.
  • A natural or synthetic crystalline material having piezoelectric or semiconducting properties.
  • An electronic device, such as an oscillator or detector, using such a material.
    4.
  • A high-quality, clear, colorless glass.
  • An object, especially a vessel or ornament, made of such glass.
  • Such objects considered as a group.
    5.
  • A clear glass or plastic protective cover for the face of a watch or clock.
    6.
  • Slang. A stimulant drug, usually methamphetamine, in its powdered form.

OK.. just gonna have a look at this

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 06, 2005 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Oh my - so in reference to no.3 -
piezoelectric
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The generation of electricity or of electric polarity in dielectric crystals subjected to mechanical stress, or the generation of stress in such crystals subjected to an applied voltage.

Is this what makes crystals powerful? Perhaps along with them being semiconductive?

Also, maybe they are oscillators, becuause of this electric energy?

oscillator

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To swing back and forth with a steady, uninterrupted rhythm

How interesting - I want to understand some basics of crystals and perhaps I am beginning to.

What do you guys think? I've always wondered where the base energy 'came from'

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posted January 06, 2005 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Wow Philbird! Are you a gemologist?

(Is there such a word? )

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 06, 2005 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Yes there is, it's a noun ... gee listen to me..

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 06, 2005 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird, I looked in Waterstones bookstore today at lunchtime and didn't see the book by Scott Cunningham - there is another place I can try at an esoteric centre in town. I'll let you know how I get on.

Thank you for your knowledge so far, you're a gem!

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posted January 06, 2005 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sheaa!
I suggested the Scott Cunningham book because it covers the magical properties of many "stones." And pictures. They are very good samples of stones in natural form. For instance, the green citrine I spoke of doesn't look anything like the picture you posted. That's a nice cleaned up version.
Also if you find a rock and mineral shop, they will show you what gems, minerals, and crystals look like before being manipulated.
There are books on magical properties of stones and then there are the Mineralogist books that will describe the properties of stones from a scientific view.
Most of the technical info I learned was from Mineralogists that owned rock shops we've collected from. They might look at you like you're queer or something, and not take you seriously if you mention healing or stuff like that. Feel them out. Some were also into the metaphysical as well. The very nice man we bought the green citrine and rutilialted quartz from was the one who told us their
magical properties. One of the rock shops we visit has an amythest about 6 feet tall!

The geodes... I would purchase them from a rock shop because they know they are geodes.
Hubby and I found one, but mostly by mistake!

Another book we found helpful was The Crystal Handbook. By Kevin Sullivan, but no pictures.

In the area I live in, there used to be a lot of copper mining. The slag from mining process forms azurite, malachite, Sulfer, copper, pyrite, gold, amazonite, hemitite, and Oh, beautiful Lapis! Lapis and azurite in their natural form are indescribeable! They look like a deep, deep velevet! If you scrape the mineral off slag they formed to, the minerals will fall off to a powdery substance. Which can be used as very expensive paint!
I'm sure there is more, but we have found these while rock hounding. And no, it's not enough gold to get rich off!
Take Care!

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posted January 06, 2005 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
I have never seen a "Gold" geode! Don't know, maybe it was the photography?

Just found this on the net.
CITRINE
Citrine is a quartz. In its natural variety, it is yellow or golden yellow. The yellow coloration is due to the presence of iron, and the gem is quite hard. Natural citrine is rare, so most citrine on the market is heat-treated amethyst, which changes to yellow when heated. Natural citrine is found in Spain, Madagascar, and the former Soviet Union.

Ours is from Spain originally and it resides in our fish tank, the fish receive iron and quartz energy.

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 07, 2005 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Acknowledged! Thank you again Philly

Hey ~ a 6ft amethyst?? (took me 3 attempts to spell that today!)

Recently I heard an account of a huge crystal's ray breaking the fall of a young child in a house! I may have read on LL, I cannot recall ~ regardless, it showed the power these crystals hold

I'd love to live in an area like yours!! How cool! Access to many a beautiful gem

Also, the next time I'm in spain - I'll be on a CITRINE MISSION for sure. Another thing I never thought of - fish tanks!! If I ever have one, I'll know how to energise them

As I was in the bath last night, I was contemplating the cocktail of minerals in my body - and with the electricity (piezoelectric energy) we have aswell - no wonder we can be very powerful, as human/spirits.

Also - no wonder we are renergised when immersed in water (our aura is cleansed) - the same effect on crystals/gems/minerals.

Contrary to my belief at school - science is amazing!

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 07, 2005 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird! How synchronised is this??

With Citrine on the brain - so to speak.. at lunchtime, I ventured into trusty St James' Church market, Piccadilly and was drawn to the Tibet stall.

What a spectacular arrary of gems and crystals he has!!

Anyway, I was looking at the rings ~ but since my budget didn't stretch that far, I turned to the bracelets instead. The gent said he'd sell it for 5.00 instead of 6.50 - cool. So I was in the middle of choosing between clear quartz ones from a tangled mass of bracelets when I was aware I was holding a yellow stoned one.

"That's citrine!" the man piped out - and it was the only one there - so I bought it

It looks similar to like one;

The colour's a bit lighter than this;

..and it has beautiful little green line-specks through it

Cool, huh?

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posted January 07, 2005 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
If they are definatly green lines inside it, and not specks, it's rutilated. If it's specks it's rutile. (small lines)
Mine is slightly pink with red lines through it. The lines look like hairs. Still the green lines or specks are rare. Where were the stones originally from? He may not have known what he sold you! I'm still trying to find a picture of what you are describing.

Rutilated basically is other minerals "frozen" within the crystal while it was developing. (by the way, citrine is a quartz crystal.) Quartz crystals are made mostly up of silicon dioxide.

Further Healing Information on Rutilated Quartz
Rutilated Quartz is a very electromagnetic crystal and thus activates your spinal fluid and blasts through blockages through your whole electromagnetic system. I once cured a 2 year old neck injury in less than one minute by pointing a Rutilated quartz into the top of my spine!

Rutilated Quartz makes a highly recommended elixir. It aids cellular regeneration and is most energizing and uplifting. It also brings the thyroid gland into balance.

Rutilated Quartz encourages you to reach new spiritual heights and strengthens your immune system. It is also good for helping you absorb all nutrients.

The Rutiles in Quartz come in many colors, red, copper, gold, silver and in rare cases green.

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 07, 2005 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Good Morning Philbird!!

Yes- they're definitly emerald green lines - like hair lines (in some of the stones around the bracelet). The Tibetian gentleman told me he brought the stones from Tibet ~ although he's not sure where they were originally from.

It's strange - when I first put it on it felt quite tight, and I was aware of it. After washing it, back at the office, it now feels comfortable. Maybe it just warmed to my body temperature

Ahh - thank you for the info on all things rutilated! I had no idea what it meant. So it looks like I have a rare rutilated Citrine - fantastic!!

There'll be Citrine-elixir-drinking a-plenty tonight!

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posted January 07, 2005 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
P.S. Any quartz crystal no matter what the color can be rutilated, or rutile.

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posted January 07, 2005 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
OK cool - plus I found a dictionary definition at last for rutile;

quote:
Rutile

n : a mineral consisting of titanium dioxide in crystalline form; occurs in metamorphic and plutonic rocks and is a major source of titanium


also;

quote:
A lustrous red, reddish-brown, or black mineral, TiO2, used as a gemstone, as an ore, and in paints and fillers.


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posted January 07, 2005 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for miss_apples     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, I did not know that citrine was rare. They sell it for so cheap at my local metaphysical store! I hope Im not buying fake citrine!

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 07, 2005 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Hey miss_apples! I think it's only because the one I found (or found me) - has green lines through it - which makes it rare. From Philbird's post;

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The Rutiles in Quartz come in many colors, red, copper, gold, silver and in rare cases green

I know - I hope I'm buying the genuine article too all the time

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Sheaa Olein
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posted January 07, 2005 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Well ladies, it's been emotional! I'm off homeward after my short week at the office. I may have time to log in later ~ however if I don't, have a wondrous weekend!

I need to be up early to go here tomorrow - yipee! http://www.londonschoolofastrology.co.uk/ I won a course day from a radio contest earlier this week for naming all the planets correctly - fantastic - I always wanted to visit the London School of Astrology, but worried about the course fees!

I shall let you know how it goes and will return shortly to discuss crystal matters with you!

Love to you, Sheaa

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posted January 07, 2005 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Cool, astrologhy school!!
Here's a picture of what my rutilated quartz looks like. http://www.geology.wisc.edu/gems/jpeg/l13s27.jpeg

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posted January 07, 2005 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
OOOPPPPSSSS! Double post.
Tonight, I'm going to put a few crystals around MY glass tea light holder, to see if there are any fairies in my apartment!

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posted January 10, 2005 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Philbird!
So that's what a rutilated quartz looks like - those fine lines a similar to the few I have in my citrine braclet - only mine are green.

So, did you have any fairies??

I've taken to talking aloud to my room before sleep now. You see, after the second night of disturbed sleep, I thought I'd try talking to them. So I did and pronounced how I don't mind them being there but I'd also appreciate a sound sleep - well it seemed to work! I had an almost dreamless deep sleep - rare for me!

The astro seminar on Saturday was fantastic - I learnt much more about astrology just from 5 hours than I thought I would. Frank Clifford runs it - a remarkable man who's about my age but has three books already and a well known palmist; http://www.flareuk.com/

Term two starts tomorrow and really considering it, but weighing up the cost aswell. There are two terms left and it's 190 pounds for each term, or 360 if I pay for both.. Frank kindly said I could pop along tomorrow to get a feel of the course and see if I'd like to progress - so we shall see!

I have a busy week ahead of me with work, this course and moving by the end of the week, but hey - all in the name of change for a new year

By the way - I added to the dream you had in Astral Realms!

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posted January 11, 2005 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Crystals are all electromagnetic so they are energy stuck in matter. Light energy to be exact. They do assist and can also be used by other energy entities for energy conduction. Movement is not uncommon nor is colour change.

As for rituals, everything works because we infuse those rituals with our expectations and according to how strong we are in mind we create the conditions to fascilitate our own experiences. Tea leaves, candle rituals, mirrors, bones, anything you like can be used as a tool. We will all find out soon enough that tools of any kind will not be required. We simply don't need them. More and more people are seeing what they could never see before in terms of energy. Everything from energy orbs to spirit energy entities. People on a much grander scale are also morphing. The electromagnetic fields of the earth have changed. Since we are electromagnetic beings we too are changing. Please be aware that there are many dimensions. Not all white or shady entities you see will be spirit so please don't be fooled. They are not all guides either, many of them have always been there but remained unseen. Just as we see them they see us. Sometimes it's a big shock for them too. It may also surprise people that pure gold is the greatest conductor of energy. So loved by the ancient priests for good reason.

Gia

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posted January 11, 2005 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Gia ~ such soothing knowledge.

I had read that gold was the most important conductor of energy - known as solid love.

So, crystals are a form of light energy? Is that what forms their shape and colour?

If so ~ how come some stones are electromagnetic and some aren't? I believe there is energy in everything on earth. I just feel the need to understand how and why they differ! I find this topic facinating

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More and more people are seeing what they could never see before in terms of energy.

I can believe the electromagnetic field on earth is changing.

For me ~ things are happening at a faster pace. I'm beginning to recognise the 'gut instinct' feelings for certain events in my life too.

So interesting


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posted January 11, 2005 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
All stone is capable of conducting energy. That is why we have our famous stone monuments. The ancients called them singing stones because they hummed just like electric wires. Look up the book called 'The Singing Stones' all about experiments done in the United Kingdom on ancient stone momuments. We must remember like we have our bones to hold us up, stones are the skeletal system of the earth. Different types of magma create different stones. Quartz are silicon and oxygen. Lapis has quite a bit of copper in it. All the different minerals vibrate at different frequencies. Generally speaking the lighter the colour the higher the rate of vibration, the more solid the colour the more slower the vibration. It may also interest you to know that your birth stone and mine is Lapis Lazuli. It opens the mind to spiritual awakening. Opal is a water stone and loves to be bathed in cold water it's vibratory rate heightens emotion. This is why they say opals are tears.

It is also amazing to note how Nicola Tesla was fascinated by quartz crystals and all gems. He wrote, " In a crystal we have clear evidence of formative life priciple and although we may not understand the life of the crystal, it is nonetheless a living being." As of course is all energy. My house is built on huge granite slabs. I had no idea before I came here how this stone has increased my perception. I will tell you that the mountains are where higher vibratory beings reside for a reason. There is a scared valley in Bulgaria which some of my much speculated White Brotherhood often reside. The Aboriginals in Austrailia will tell you that the crystals are solidified light that contain the Great Spirit. These are not just stories but contain great truths.

I hope this helps. I will answer no questions as to the whereabouts of the White Brotherhood. It is pointless as they never stay too long in one place anyway.

Gia

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