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Topic: Expectations
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 03, 2005 10:59 PM
 
Not all adversaries are enemies.
Maya may have spoken to you as an adversary, 26,
but never as an enemy.
I honestly believe that.
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 13411
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Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 03, 2005 11:05 PM
No one here was ever an enemy or should have been an adversary. But "someone" did things to try and make it that way and it worked. I do not appreciate that. I still have no enemies or adversaries here in my eyes and never did. I never should have been seen as an adversary or opponent in her eyes because I never was.I ask that you drop this. I think enough drama has gone on here (on LL) with you two and I dont want any part of it. I had a bad feeling about this. When you asked me to email you because you were "sad". IP: Logged |
wildflwrs
Knowflake Posts: 479
From: Albuquerque
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted April 03, 2005 11:32 PM
Some people say to recollect your first memories of what you wanted to be. My first memorie was pretending to have a microphone and singing out to an audience. Well, I never became a singer....hardly ever sing anymore....but I was in the choir and in chorus.....daaa. Also, I wrote a song when I was 6 or 7 and told my grandmother to send it in so that it could be sung on TV. She thought that was silly. But maybe I have latent talent, huh?IP: Logged |
Everlong
Knowflake Posts: 931
From: Southeast Florida
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 04, 2005 01:50 AM
I agree with wildflwrs. Ever since I started reading, I always wanted to be able to 'do that'- write. To spread the joy  . I'll keep you updated ten years from now.IP: Logged |
maya-v
Knowflake Posts: 1534
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posted April 04, 2005 07:33 AM
I do not believe in using strong language as a means of communication when softer words can do. I also do not believe in dragging other people into my business. The reason I did not mention the movie's name as because I thought it was a classic - something abt the top ten movies ever made. And its sad when you cannot even recognise goodwill when you see it ... its sad that you get so jaded by harsh words that you cannot recognise a person who would like to be true to her own feelings of truth and compassion when she feels it. 26, whatever drama unfolded between the 'two of us' never found its way here. I never meant to imply you. That is beneath me ... to drag someone into something that is very personal and important. I do respect you and admire all your wisdom and knowledge but do not think I want you to get you involved in something that is more abt me and my relationship with all who believe in Linda and her message of compassion and understanding for all. I cannot believe this is happening here. This place is meant for all those who truly believe in the magic of astrology helping people comprehend others better and gaze at the marvel of human capacity for understanding and acceptance. I believed that was the entire intent of the forum ... to help people understand each other and live in harmony through the ups and downs of life because of the capability of being able to gaze into each other's souls thanks to the beacon of astrology that the stars provided. And the strange thing is; I have gained such insight into the amazing people all of you are that I cannot find it within me to be angry with anyone of you ... because no reasons qualifies enough that I use it to fight with anyone of you ... not when I have spent years yearning for anyone who understands my faith and belief in humanity and the joy at finally having found a place where I can belong. Even if you all get really angry at me; even if you all 'ban' me and I am reduced to just reading all your interactions from a position of passivity, I will still not find it within me to be angry at you guys - simply because I know how tough it is to be misunderstood and left out all your life because of your beliefs and then finally finding someone or some place where you actually belong. I still thank all you lovely knowflakes for your wisdom and compassion that you shared with me. I never meant any harm or anger towards any of you and 26taurus even if you are really angry at me for some non-existant jibe you think I made at you; I hope you find it within to forgive me and really remember me as a person who likes you a lot and still wants to be your friend. One thing that was bad abt whatever'drama' happened between me and HSC; I lost the amazing friends I had come to respect and love a lot - even from a distance. I still do; you guys and I hope I dont have to lose you all as friends - even if I am leaving right now; I hope it does not have to be a sad goodbye. Love and Light Maya IP: Logged |
aries-chick
Knowflake Posts: 1142
From: The Ocean
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted April 04, 2005 07:47 AM
Such beautiful poetry .. I love your wordsI very much dislike the lack of substance behind them But nice words nonetheless - poetry - tis beautiful - very poetic of you, perhaps you should become a poet oh yes I forgot Love and Light and Blessings I love you too IP: Logged |
maya-v
Knowflake Posts: 1534
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posted April 04, 2005 08:01 AM
Thanks for your Mars directness - and I dont know what substance you are looking for, but I hope you do me the honor of believing me too.I am not here to prove I have immense depths - I never said I did. And yes, I am a poet actually - maybe thats why I think its more important to spread love and not strife ... I dont really know. But thanks anyway aries chick "Ne'er a fool like a sentimental one."
(And I swear I dont know who said that!)
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aries-chick
Knowflake Posts: 1142
From: The Ocean
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted April 04, 2005 08:25 AM
You're very welcome  *steals a pleasant-ville pill of Maya* Love Light and Blessings, fudge and chocolate and apple pie and all things beautiful in the world.. butterflies, yes butterflies too and puppies don't you just love puppies I think my love for you has just increased.. seemingly impossible a scientific phenomenon but hey? what do ya know? Miracles do happen More Blessings *singggiiing in the rain.. i'm singiiiing in the rain*
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 08:36 AM
"Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
But these,... speak evil of the things that they understand not.... [and] forbade the madness of the prophet.... the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."II Peter 2 IP: Logged |
maklhouf
Knowflake Posts: 1392
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Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 04, 2005 08:39 AM
26T. were you among those who critisized Daf for his post-deleting habits? It's difficult enough trying to figure out what the feck is going on!IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted April 04, 2005 08:47 AM
Saturn in Leo: Enough drama has gone on here.Jupiter in Leo: There is nothing larger than life. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted April 04, 2005 08:50 AM
"That's the difference between us; you think we're fighting, and I think we're finally communicating."- Cuba Gooding Jr. in 'Jerry Maguire' IP: Logged |
aries-chick
Knowflake Posts: 1142
From: The Ocean
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted April 04, 2005 08:53 AM
I myself think God knows WHERE certain things apply and I don't think he needs reminders on internet boards..I actually think these religious quotes some ppl seem to have taken a liking to have absolutely no place in an argument on an internet board. God sees all. If you've read the bible I'm sure you're aware of that.. No need for extra quotes or reminders.. IP: Logged |
trillian
Knowflake Posts: 4050
From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted April 04, 2005 09:02 AM
Sanctimonious quotes really aren't a form of communicating, are they?Maya, back on the first page you said you were taking your leave of the 'illusory world' you created for yourself here at LL.
I'm always surprised at the melodrama some folks feel they need to create to surround their leaving, and how they use their interpretation of who Linda was to sanction their veiled insults at others. Best of luck on whatever path you choose. But generally when you say you are leaving, that means no more posts. If you decide to stay, so be it. Best of luck on that path, too.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 09:32 AM
aries-chick - "God knows WHERE certain things apply and I don't think he needs reminders on internet boards." Then why do you bother to post? Perhaps it is because, like me, you have a voice. trillian - "The heart has reasons that reason cannot comprehend.".. or something.
aries chick and trillian -
Funny, nobody ever gets indignant when I quote the billion other sources I'm fond of quoting. Is the Bible so controversial, it ought never to be quoted?
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maya-v
Knowflake Posts: 1534
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Registered: Dec 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 09:40 AM
One must care about a world one will not see.
Bertrand Russell (this one I know who wrote - )Trillian ... as I said before, I would not like a sad goodbye. And really, its a personal decision; and who knows; maybe I have a penchant for drama ... Aries chick ... thank you for being your honest, forthright self and perhaps HSC finds it a better way of communicating through the wisdom of those wiser than all of us. I guess his Merc in Sag cannot justify anything less grand than the source of all good itself. He comes from a good place; so dont sweat it. I am so happy I could get through to you. That is all I ask ... that my Merc in Taurus doesnt miscommunicate my good will to any of the wonderful people here. Love to all Maya IP: Logged |
aries-chick
Knowflake Posts: 1142
From: The Ocean
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted April 04, 2005 09:42 AM
The only reason I don't think it's a nice thing to do is because a high percentage of the world's population is Christian which gives the bible a certain power over other books. I believe in God and like I said before I believe that God knows where certain things apply.. You quoting the bible.. to me sounds like implying that particular quote applies to this situation and I guess my question to that is WHO are you to say? IP: Logged |
maya-v
Knowflake Posts: 1534
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Registered: Dec 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 09:45 AM
Aries chick - remember please, he has a Mercury in SagittriusMercury in Sagittarius: is not really illogical. It just doesn’t usually want to be bothered with what it considers trivia, and what the rest of us call the practical necessities of day-to-day living. Dr. Zamenhof had this placement of Mercury. Who is Dr. Zamenhof? The inventor of Esperanto, the perfectly constructed language that nobody wanted to speak. The good Dr. invented it because he thought that if everyone spoke the same language, there would be world peace. Compare this with what a person with the more practical Mercury in Capricorn did. Sir Issac Pittman, who had that one, invented Pittman shorthand. He asked himself what people needed and what they would use. Mercury in Sagittarius can be very good, though, for getting the "big picture". Sir Issac Newton discovered some of the basic laws that run the whole Universe. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 09:49 AM
"Who are you to say?"Good question, aries-chick. It was asked during the Reformation.
The Catholic Church wanted sole rights to interpreting the Bible. The Protestants published the Bible for all to see. Their theory was scriptural (imo): "Who has ears to hear, let them hear." So, who can decide? I can decide for myself, and I have not deprived you of your free will in order to convince you that I am right, I have only shown you my perspective. YOU decide. IP: Logged |
monad
Knowflake Posts: 366
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Registered: Dec 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 09:49 AM
Um
I think that the way to find out what you will do when you grow up can be partially if not fully realised through the study of astrology numerology and lexigamming also through free will.
I think the sun is most important followed by the moon.
To my understanding these are the two most important aspects.
Another way as has probably already been mentioned also is to do what you like doing.
Hopefully this will be and in my opinion it should be a way to make a living.
I dont mind that I seem misunderstood at times but realise that is what I said.
Mayas 'Beauty'seemed to be what I was thinking about at the time so it struck a familiar chord.
Beauty being the goal of Libra the sign in which my moon is in.
(see my topic Cancer sun Libra Moon in astrology forum)
Recently I looked at my birthchart at astro.com in the placidus style and found theat the main grouping of planets, moon included, is in the second house rather than the third in equal house system.
This seems to make more sense and now* I about to check out all the other stlyes as recommended by astro junkie.
Another thing I am considering is the progressed chart which would mean that all of the planets are moving into or have moved into the first 3 houses meaning that these are things to be developed not so much as something in which I have a inborn ability.
I see the sun as the personality or the source and the moon as the 'way'Anyway Maya-V, even if you dont find out what you will do through astrology and you do what you feel like anyway then you probably realise what it is you are good at doing.
I found the link for lexxing quite helpful thanks twentysix.
So yeah sun and moon is what im thinking about and what was sugessted was that I am good at looking at things from a detatched point of view.
In other words satisfaction is more often found from observation and perhaps relaying these thoughts.
I think at the moment I will be a writer which is exactly what I am, and feel like doing now. Sweet.
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aries-chick
Knowflake Posts: 1142
From: The Ocean
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted April 04, 2005 10:06 AM
In my opinion everyone has the right to interpret the bible for themselves, their own lives, their own wrong or right doings and noone elses. I judged Maya no more than your mis-used choice of quotation judges me..I made my decision way before asking the question. Who is to say? GOD
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maya-v
Knowflake Posts: 1534
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posted April 04, 2005 10:28 AM
Its beautiful how inspite of all the arguments the love in this place finds a way to shine through ...Thanks Monad; that was a very heartfelt response from a fellow Venusian. I appreciate it. And aries chick; I love you too and thanx for all the goodies you sent my way. I would like to apologize to anyone I inardvently hurt through my words ... know that I never meant to hurt or disappoint anyone. This is my last post, I hope it is at least an amiable goodbye ... if not a happy one. Love and light to all Maya IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 10:40 AM
aries-chick -I was very conflicted about posting the latter half of that bible quote. Perhaps I should not have, but I will not erase it now. Right now, it speaks to me more than anyone. And I confess it. The first half of the quote suggests that "they" deride what they do not understand. The second half suggests that they do in fact understand what they are doing. I think there is a point where some of us cross that line, when, for a moment, we understand, or suspect that the person we are accussing is in fact innocent, but we continue out of vanity or mis-directed passion. I was not thinking of you, but of 26, when I included that second part. I suspect that 26 was partly aware of her mistake, but continued in error, for whatever reason. I could be wrong, and, if I am wrong, then 26 will no doubt discard what I have written, and I will be the only one to look a little silly, a little self-righteous. That is fine. I do not mean to judge, but to discern, and "to speak the things which I have seen and heard". If you believe I have done wrong, you are equally within your rights to "judge" me, if, by the word "judge", we mean "to discern and to speak". I welcome your views. I would not have you keep silence, when you have something to say. Even if it chastens me, I will not imagine that it is you who chasten me, but God, speaking through you. I believe that, often times, God speaks through me, but, I do not claim to possess a monopoly on God's voice. Right now, I think God is speaking through us both. We are both trying very hard to communicate peacefully.
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 7178
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 10:41 AM
Worst in this royal presence may I speak,
Yet best beseeming me to speak the truth.
Would God that any in this noble presence
Were enough noble to be upright judge
Of noble Richard! then, true noblesse would
Learn him forbearance from so foul a wrong.
What subject can give sentence on his king?
And who sits here that is not Richard’s subject?
Thieves are not judg’d but they are by to hear,
Although apparent guilt be seen in them;
And shall the figure of God’s majesty,
His captain, steward, deputy elect,
Anointed, crowned, planted many years,
Be judg’d by subject and inferior breath,
And he himself not present? O! forfend it, God,
That in a Christian climate souls refin’d
Should show so heinous, black, obscene a deed.
I speak to subjects, and a subject speaks,
Stirr’d up by God thus boldly for his king.
My Lord of Hereford here, whom you call king,
Is a foul traitor to proud Hereford’s king;
And if you crown him, let me prophesy,
The blood of English shall manure the ground
And future ages groan for this foul act;
Peace shall go sleep with Turks and infidels,
And in this seat of peace tumultuous wars
Shall kin with kin and kind with kind confound;
Disorder, horror, fear and mutiny
Shall here inhabit, and this land be call’d
The field of Golgotha and dead men’s skulls.
O! if you raise this house against this house,
It will the woefullest division prove
That ever fell upon this cursed earth.
Prevent it, resist it, let it not be so,
Lest child, child’s children, cry against you ‘woe!’ IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 13411
From: *
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 04, 2005 01:06 PM
K, I cant even read through all of this. You two arent even making sense.I know what happened and that's all that matters. For the record, I made no mistake HSC. I think you may have though.  I wont play into the innapropriateness of this anymore. I can see two you are having great fun being drama king and queen again and I think it's sad. So enough of this. No one else needs to deal with it. Move on, I have. Actually, I never even went there. LOL The only thing I wanted to do was put a stop to becoming involved in your drama on this board. Since I wasnt becoming involved outside and could see that the effects were starting to show up here. It looked like it was going to get ugly so I spoke up before it got worse. I dont like when I see someone playing games and trying to get me involved with them. I dont like shadiness and I dont like passive aggressive behavior in the form of quotes or anything else. When I see it and it's directed towards me, I'll say something. That's all I did. You can deny your actions all you want but I see what was starting to happen and it disgusted me. Now it's over. Good-bye!!!!! IP: Logged |
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