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DayDreamer
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posted July 28, 2005 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I'd like to know what Shakira is singing about in her new song featuring Alejandro Sanz. I love their voices together. Just a general idea of what they're singing about would be great

Here's the song...

La Tortura (I'm guessing that means The Torture).

Ay payita mía
Guárdate la poesía
Guárdate la alegría pa'ti

No pido que todos los días sean de sol
No pido que todos los viernes sean de fiesta
Tampoco te pido que vuelvas rogando perdón
Si lloras con los ojos secos
Y hablando de ella

Ay amor me duele tanto
Me duele tanto
Que te fueras sin decir a donde
Ay amor, fue una tortura perderte

Yo se que no he sido un santo
Pero lo puedo arreglar amor

No solo de pan vive el hombre
Y no de excusas vivo yo.


Solo de errores se aprende
Y hoy se que es tuyo mi corazón

Mejor te guardas todo eso
A otro perro con ese hueso
Y nos decimos adiós

No puedo pedir que el invierno perdone a un rosal
No puedo pedir a los olmos que entreguen peras
No puedo pedirle lo eterno a un simple mortal
Y andar arrojando a los cerdos miles de perlas

Ay amor me duele tanto
Me duele tanto
Que no creas más en mis promesas
Ay amor es una tortura perderte

Yo se que no he sido un santo
Pero lo puedo arreglar amor

No solo de pan vive el hombre
Y no de excusas vivo yo.

Solo de errores se aprende
Y hoy se que es tuyo mi corazón

Mejor te guardas todo eso
A otro perro con ese hueso
Y nos decimos adiós

No te bajes, no te bajes
Oye negrita mira, no te rajes
De lunes a viernes tienes mi amor
Déjame el sábado a mi que es mejor
Oye mi negra no me castigues más
Porque allá afuera sin ti no tengo paz
Yo solo soy un hombre arrepentido
Soy como el ave que vuelve a su nido

Yo se que no he sido un santo
y es que no estoy hecho de cartón

No solo de pan vive el hombre
Y no de excusas vivo yo.

Solo de errores se aprende
Y hoy se que es tuyo mi corazón

AD LIBS

Ay ay ay
Ay, todo lo que he hecho por ti
Fue una tortura perderte
Y me duele tanto que sea asi
Sigue llorando perdón
Yo... yo no voy
A llorar por ti

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DayDreamer
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posted July 28, 2005 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Nevermind I finally found the English translation. I really do like this song

THE TORTURE (English Translation)

I'm not asking that every day be sunny
I'm not asking that there be a party every Friday
Nor do I ask you to come back begging forgiveness
If you're crying with dry eyes,
Speaking about her

Oh my love, it hurts so much
It hurts so much
That you left without saying a word
Oh my love, losing you was torture

I know I haven't been a saint
But I can make it up to you

Man doesn't live on bread alone
Nor do I live on excuses

We only learn from mistakes
And today I know my heart is yours

Better save that for yourself
Take that bone to some other dog
And let's say goodbye

I can't ask winter to spare a rose bush
I can't ask an elm tree to bear pears
I can't ask the eternal of a mere mortal
And go about casting thousands of pearls before swine

Oh my love, it hurts so much
It hurts so much
That you no longer trust my promises
Oh my love, losing you has been torture

I know I haven't been a saint
And I'm not made of stone

Man doesn't live on bread alone
Nor do I live on excuses

We only learn from our mistakes
And today I know my heart is yours

Better save that for yourself
Take that bone to some other dog
And let's say goodbye

Listen, baby, don't you go
Listen, baby, don't get angry
From Monday to Friday you have my love
Give Saturday to me and you'll be better off
Listen baby, don't punish me anymore
Without you, out there I have no peace
I'm just a repentant man
I'm the bird that returns to its nest

I know I haven't been a saint
And I'm not made of stone

Man doesn't live on bread alone
Nor do I live on excuses

We only learn from our mistakes
And today I know my heart is yours

Better save it for someone foolish enough to believe you and say Goodbye

AD LIBS

Oh after all I've done for you
It was such a torture to lose you
It hurts me so that it's like this
Keep on crying sorry
I…
I'm not going
To cry over you

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LibraSparkle
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posted July 28, 2005 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Try an online translator?

I know some Spanish... but its sooooooo rusty.

The title is The Torture. I can pick out some words like poesia = poetry, and alegria = happiness. So... the first line means something about poetry and happiness

Next is something like I don't ask that all days be sunny. I don't ask that every Friday is a party. Tampoco te pido que vuelvas rogando perdon? I have no idea... something about pardon though. Then its something about "with the eyes"(con los ojos). Y hablando de ella = And speaking of her.

Anyhow... that was kinda fun. I'm probably really not being of any help. hehe... good luck.

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DayDreamer
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posted July 28, 2005 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the translations LibraSparkle . You know far more Spanish than I! Found myself the English Translation of the song. The internet is a wonderful thing...also found the video, and didn't realize Alejandro would be so cute .

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posted July 28, 2005 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Seems like only cute boys should be named Alejandro.... cute boys with really nice abs.

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DayDreamer
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posted July 29, 2005 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I agree Is that a rule? Well I found out Alejandro is huge in Spain,...and his singing voice is sexy, so we can include that to the list of what cute boys with abs should have.

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Planet_Soul
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posted July 29, 2005 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message
DD,


Are you a fan of Shakira? That is so cool you like her song, even w/o knowing the words. I love Shakira, and my Cancer who also knows no spanish is always prompting me to turn the volume up when I play her CD's

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posted August 02, 2005 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Planet_Soul, I do like some of Shakira's songs...the ones Ive heard on radio, over the internet, or from friends. I like more of her danceable songs. What songs of hers do you like?

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 02, 2005 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Gemini     Edit/Delete Message
I have her new album. How can I not support a fellow colombian?


My favorite tracks on her new album are 1, 4, and 7. I love the others but those are my favorites.

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Planet_Soul
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posted August 02, 2005 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message
DD, its hard to pick just one I love almost all of her songs My favorite is "Ojos Asi" translates into "Eyes like that" because of its awesome Arabic music mix.

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steelrose
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posted August 02, 2005 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Well, yes, Alejandro Sanz is big in Spain... He has been since 1991… I’m not a fan of his… But I must admit he is getting better with age…

If you are interested, there you have the fanclub website… It’s in Spanish but you still can see some nice pics (under “Album de fotos”) and some videos (Some of them in English…).
http://www.alejandrosanz.com

I’d translate anything you want…

P.S. – I like Shakira very much… Even more when she sings in Spanish… Her songs sound fuller of meaning… Hotter… Deeper…

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posted August 03, 2005 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
MG what are the titles of those tracks, tracks 1, 4, 7?

P_S, I love Ojos Asi! Great song to dance to! Don't exactly understand the lyrics to the song though

Steelrose, thanks for that link. I guess guys get better with age Havent heard of anyone with a voice like Alejandros. I like Shakiras spanish songs (although I dont know what shes saying) better...maybe because its her native tongue and feels the songs better that way?

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 03, 2005 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Gemini     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
P.S. – I like Shakira very much… Even more when she sings in Spanish… Her songs sound fuller of meaning… Hotter… Deeper…


Oh yes definitely. No one can transalate it into english exactly as it should be. her words are so deep.


I love Alejandro. I'd marry him in a second.

I loveeeeeeee Ojos Asi!! I am so obsessed with arabic music!

Track 1 - Tus Pupilas

Track 4 - Obtener Un Si (My cappy's favorite song)


Track 7 - No (I heard the video should be out soon. I think you can view it online)


Tracks 1 and 7 are my favorites!

I'm actually listnening to the cd now at work LOL.

My # 1 favorite song by my baby Alejandro is amiga mia.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 03, 2005 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Track 8 - Las De La Intuicion is good also. But of course # 7 my favorite.

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posted August 03, 2005 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message
I also love "Donde Estas Corazon" or "Where are you my heart". Shakira rocks, her music has such a calming effect on me, such emotion. I love the musical tone to Ojos Asi, I wish there were more songs out there with an Arabic mix.

Its so hard to translate any language, the grammar rules being changed and all. My bf didn't know a word of Spanish when we first met. He's picked up a lot, and is even able to speak some phrases. I do my best to translate, but there's no equivalant for some words and sometimes people speak too rapidly for him to grasp. I finally understood just how weird/difficult it really is when I took a course in German. I was so lost, its weird to not know what the heck people are saying. I'd be doing my homework and have English, Spanish, and German grammar rules in my mind at the same time aggghhh


Auf Wiedersehen (Weirderness LOL)

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posted August 06, 2005 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
OJOS ASI (Shakira)

Ayer conocí un cielo sin sol
Y un hombre sin suelo
Un santo en prisión
Y una canción triste sin dueño
Ya he ya he ya la he
Y conocí tus ojos negros
Ya he ya he ya la he
Y ahora sí que no
Puedo vivir sin ellos yo
Le pido al cielo sólo un deseo
Que en tus ojos yo pueda vivir
He recorrido ya el mundo entero
Y una cosa te vengo a decir
Viaje de bahrein hasta beirut
Fui desde el norte hasta el polo sur
Y no encontré ojos así
Como los que tienes tú
Rabboussamai fikarrajaii
Fi ainaiha aralhayati
Ati ilaika min haza ikaaouni
Arjouka labbi labbi nidai
Viaje de bahrein hasta beirut
Fuí desde el norte hasta el polo sur
Y no encontré ojos así
Como los que tienes tú
Ayer vi pasar una mujer
Debajo de su camello
Un río de sal un barco
Abandonado en el desierto
Ya he ya he ya la he
Y vi pasar tus ojos negros
Ya he ya he ya la he
Y ahora sí que no
Puedo vivir sin ellos yo
Le pido al cielo sólo un deseo
Que en tus ojos yo pueda vivir
He recorrido ya el mundo entero
Y una cosa te vengo a decir
Viajé de bahrein hasta beirut
Fuí desde el norte hasta el polo sur
Y no encontré ojos así
Como los que tienes tú
Le pido al cielo sólo un deseo
Que en tus ojos yo pueda vivir
He recorrido ya el mundo entero
Y una cosa te vengo a decir
Viaje de bahrein hasta beirut
Fuí desde el norte hasta el polo sur
Y no encontré ojos así
Como los que tienes tú

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posted August 06, 2005 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
EYES LIKE THOSE (Shakira)

Yesterday, I met a sky with no sun
And a man with no land
A saint in prison
And a sad song with no owner
Ya he ya he ya la he
And I met your dark eyes
Ya he ya he ya la he
And now I really cannot
Live without them
I only pray for a wish
For me to live in your eyes
I have travelled around the world
And I wanna tell you something
I travelled from Bahrein to Beirut
I went from The North to the South pole
And I never found eyes like those
Like those you have
Rabboussamai fikarrajaii
Fi ainaiha aralhayati
Ati ilaika min haza ikaaouni
Arjouka labbi labbi nidai

I travelled from Bahrein to Beirut
I went from The North to the South pole
And I never found eyes like those
Like those you have
Yesterday I saw a woman pass
Under his camel
A river of salt, a ship
Abandoned in the desert
Ya he ya he ya la he
An I saw your eyes pass
Ya he ya he ya la he
And now I really cannot
Live without them
I only pray for a wish
For me to live in your eyes
I have travelled around the world
And I wanna tell you something
I travelled from Bahrein to Beirut
I went from The North to the South pole
And I never found eyes like those
Like those you have
I only pray for a wish
For me to live in your eyes
I have travelled around the world
And I wanna tell you something
I travelled from Bahrein to Beirut
I went from The North to the South pole
And I never found eyes like those
Like those you have


I did my best with the translation... I hope you get at least to understand the meaning... The parts in Italics I can´t understand... It must be arabic or maybe just music...

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